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Old 07.08.2014, 06:13 PM   #5261
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WRONG SPORT

the correct surprises are:

netherlands 5 spain 1

germany 4 portugal 0

costa rica 1 italy 0 + costa rica 3 uruguay 1 = costa rica wins group = alternate reality

and yes now germany 7 brazil 1 insanity

given that record i think in the end it deserves to be a netherlands-germany final but we'll have to wait till tomorrow to know

Yes I understand that, I was placing this Germany win in a bigger sports context for 2014.. Its not every year that all the major sports have such historic blowouts against world-class teams. Denver Broncos were favorites. Miami Heat were in their fourth consecutive Finals appearance. Serena and Venus BOTH get humiliated in the same tennis tournament.. Recently the NHL LA Kings won Game 7s ON THE ROAD IN THREE CONSECUTIVE PLAYOFF SERIES.. Brazil hadn't lost IN BRAZIL since 1975.. that is big. I will always remember 2014 as the sports year where #GodIsPissed

 


How pissed you say? Denver Broncos had gave up a turnover that cost them the game ON THE FIRST PLAY of the game! Dwyane Wade went into the Finals shooting 55% and finished shooting 39%! LA Kings were down 3-0 against the San Jose Sharks, then were down 3-2 against both the Anaheim Ducks AND the Chicago Blackhawks USA, Chile, and Colombia ALL missed potential game winning-or-tying goals that posted meanwhile Germany hits the post on its SEVENTH fucking goal and it goes IN??????

This is Bizarro World of Sport that is for sure
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Old 07.08.2014, 08:08 PM   #5262
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Y I was placing this Germany win in a bigger sports context for 2014.

comparing the biggest global sport to some national eccentricity is the opposite though!

only cricket comes second.
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Old 07.08.2014, 08:34 PM   #5263
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Still shocked by the game. Germany were superb but the story is obviously Brazil's utter collapse. In a way, Neymar and Silva are lucky they weren't involved. I don't honestly think their inclusion would've made a huge difference to the result and at least they're not contaminated by what happened. That one game has been a disaster for someone like Luiz - the most expensive defender in the history of the game, let us not forget.

But take nothing away from Germany. They were as awesome as Brazil were awful.
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comparing the biggest global sport to some national eccentricity is the opposite though!
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You're being silly now. Your bias against other American sports in praise of futbol is bordering on neurotic. You realize that yes?

 
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You're being silly now. Your bias against other American sports in praise of futbol is bordering on neurotic. You realize that yes?

 

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Still shocked by the game. Germany were superb but the story is obviously Brazil's utter collapse. In a way, Neymar and Silva are lucky they weren't involved. I don't honestly think their inclusion would've made a huge difference to the result and at least they're not contaminated by what happened. That one game has been a disaster for someone like Luiz - the most expensive defender in the history of the game, let us not forget.

But take nothing away from Germany. They were as awesome as Brazil were awful.

maybe i'm bananas but here's a theeery (trying to sound like trainspotting here)

the fact that neymar wasn't there made brazil's attack completely ineffectual. hence, in order to score, their fullbacks had to push all the way up all the time.

same thing with oscar who had to sort of supplant neymar, pushed up.

this collective pour forward got their midfield and defense in disarray--this from the start, before even trying to equalize.

and while dante is a capable defender, though not a star, it seems like silva's role was also to run his defense like buffon does with his (holler, command, etc). e.g, putting the reins on david luiz so he doesn't get lost upfront or gets possessed by the holy spirit. i don't see julio césar doing that, as he's too busy being frightened. and did you see marcelo all over the fucking place? huge lack of leadership on defense.

so this is how during that unreal half an hour i think they got *completely* disorganized. because germany was bound to win if it was to be a fair game, just not so atrociously easily. it was like they were playing saudi arabia or something. one of the commentators said that it was like they left the children (you know the ones who come in for the anthems) in their place.

felipão fucked up big. but then again he didn't really had a winning squad so i think that forced his hand. kaká is not what he used to be but maybe he would have provided alternatives to that shit offense. do they really have no better keepers than julio césar? he was so fucking slow. robinho? etc.

they had good defenders though, but a poor defense, paradoxically-- he probably should have fortified that and build up from there, instead of around neymar or neymar's void, but as the gringos say hindsight is 20/20. i don't know what was going through his head but if anything brazil got what it deserved-- because they didn't deserve to be here after how they ruined colombia.
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the fact that neymar wasn't there made brazil's attack completely ineffectual. hence, in order to score, their fullbacks had to push all the way up all the time.

It looked like Oscar was shellshocked by Germany until that final goal..



this collective pour forward got their midfield and defense in disarray--this from the start, before even trying to equalize.

and while dante is a capable defender, though not a star, it seems like silva's role was also to run his defense like buffon does with his (holler, command, etc). e.g, putting the reins on david luiz so he doesn't get lost upfront or gets possessed by the holy spirit. i don't see julio césar doing that, as he's too busy being frightened. and did you see marcelo all over the fucking place? huge lack of leadership on defense.

so this is how during that unreal half an hour i think they got *completely* disorganized. because germany was bound to win if it was to be a fair game, just not so atrociously easily. it was like they were playing saudi arabia or something. one of the commentators said that it was like they left the children (you know the ones who come in for the anthems) in their place.

felipão fucked up big. but then again he didn't really had a winning squad so i think that forced his hand. kaká is not what he used to be but maybe he would have provided alternatives to that shit offense. do they really have no better keepers than julio césar? he was so fucking slow. robinho? etc.

they had good defenders though, but a poor defense, paradoxically-- he probably should have fortified that and build up from there, instead of around neymar or neymar's void, but as the gringos say hindsight is 20/20. i don't know what was going through his head but if anything brazil got what it deserved-- because they didn't deserve to be here after how they ruined colombia.

Great effort at trying to salvage some kind of analysis to explain that implosion, shit was batshit crazy I'm not exactly sure it can really ever be explained, neither by the Brazilians or even the Germans!

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At the end of the day, it looked like Brazil (a) just wasn't prepared for the precision passing and particularly rebounding on the German side, maybe because Germany had only scored 1 goal in each of their past few games the Brazilians scouts underestimated the German attack and (b) it really looked like Brazil regretted their exceptionally physical defense from the Colombia game and were playing soft to kind of overcompensate for the roughness of their last match. They looked like they were almost playing overly cautious defense when in reality they should have been playing for red cards after it went 3-0 in 18 minutes!
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and while dante is a capable defender, though not a star, it seems like silva's role was also to run his defense like pirlo does with his. e.g, putting the reins on david luiz so he doesn't get lost upfront or go wacko with overenthusiasm. and did you see marcelo all over the fucking place?

With Neymar there everyone knew their role: pretty much give it to him asap. Without him they seemed unsure what to do. But they all seemed a bit too up for it; attacking from the start as though they were already 1-0 down in the last 5 minutes. Germany found space opening up everywhere and were composed enough to capitalise. Khedira was excellent.

But we've seen Germany struggle before and all the teams left have had good and bad days. The one big advantage Germany will have whoever they face is a very easy round with no injuries. We'll have to assume tomorrow's game will be tougher on both teams, plus the winner of that one will have a day less to rest/prepare.
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he took out hummels at halftime! oh man he only scored 3 fantasy points. XP
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Actually those dudes looked WAAAAAAY better defensively than Brazil. Shit, I don't even think I saw a German have to sprint for an attack, it wasn't even tika-taka, it was too leisurely.
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