[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by h8kurdt

Chiles is such a douche. A classic line from Mark Lawrenson during the Germany/Argentina game

"Let's hope it isn't a German run away"
Mark-"Yeah or a German take-away"

As soon as he said that me a coupla friends who were watching the game jsut turned to each other looking confused as hell.

Higuain put this up on his facebook. Translation below.

 

Miren esta imagen, es la tristeza en persona. Un chico que creció en el silencio de nuestra sociedad, el cual nuestro país le dio la espalda a la hora de llevar su tratamiento, un chico que desde los 11 años se sometió a miles de inyecciones para poder crecer y poder triunfar con nuestros colores diciéndole que NO a España, país donde lo respetan como se merece y con el que ya hubiese alcanzado la gloria en el 2010. Y todavía lo ponen en duda? Les puedo asegurar que ninguno de los que vimos el partido por tv o en la cancha esta sufriendo ni siquiera 1/4 de lo que lo sufre él. Él sufre mas que nadie el no poder haber traido la copa, él sufre mas que nadie su disparo que salio rosando el poste izquierdo de Neuer, pero también les puedo asegurar que él no fue tan feliz como los miles de argentinos que gritamos su goles decisivos en la primera ronda para poder claisificar, por que? Porque mientras el jugaba, estaba con la presión de saber que el partido siguiente tenia que dar el doble de esfuerzo y que aunque el estuviera brillando siempre algún mal intencionado iba a reprocharle algo. Cuando brillo individualmente, se criticaba la "Messi dependencia" del equipo y cuando se puso el traje de obrero para que el equipo funcione y brille, lo tildaban de "pecho frio", "que desaparecio" y miles de cosas mas. Como veran, los argentinos nunca se conforman. Han cometido el grave error de compararte con Maradona, siendo jugadores distintos en momentos distintos y en planteos tácticos distintos, quizas no hayas traido la copa como Maradona, pero puedo agradecerte de ser un ejemplo como profesional y humano al no estar perdido en un mundo de drogas dando mala imagen o hablando barbaridades ni peleandote con otras personas. Nunca dejes de ser ese niño que solo quiere jugar a la pelota, espero se arrepientan de todo lo que te dicen y siempre voy a estar agradecido de que seas ARGENTINO. Gracias enano! Tus lagrimas y cada una de las de los 23 HEROES Argentinos siempre van a estar en mi.. GRACIAS POR INVITARME A SOÑAR
Te quiero mucho amigo !!

Look at this image, is the sadness in person. A guy who grew up in the silence of our society, which our country turned away at the time of your treatment, a guy who, since age 11, underwent thousands of injections to be able to grow and to succeed with our colors saying NO to Spain, a country where respect it as it deserves and that it had already achieved glory in 2010. And they lay still in doubt? I can assure you that none of those who saw the match on tv or on the Court this suffering or even 1/4 of what he suffers it. He suffers more than anyone else not have brought the Cup, he suffers more than anyone his shot that came gliding left Neuer post, but I can also assure you that he was not as happy as the thousands of Argentines who we yell his decisive goals in the first round to claisificar, why? Because while the playing, it was with the pressure of knowing that the next party had that effort twice and that although the was always shining some ill intentioned was going to accuse him of something. When shining individually, criticized the ' Messi dependency "of equipment and when is put worker costume to team work and shine, branded as it"chest cold","that disappeared"and thousands of things more. As you can see, the Argentines never comply. They have made the serious mistake of compare yourself with Maradona, being different players at different times and in different tactical schemes, may not have brought the Cup as Maradona, but I thank you for being an example of how professional and human not to be lost in a world of drugs giving bad image or talking nonsense or peleandote with other people. Never let be that child who just wants to play ball, I hope repent of all what you say and you'll always be thankful that you are Argentine. Thank you dwarf! Your tears and each of the of the 23 HEROES Argentines will always be in my... THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO DREAM
I love you lot friend!

The translation gets a bit wonky, but the sentiment remains the same. You can't help but feel for Messi. He'll be hurting for a while, I suspect.

thanks for posting that. reading it got me a bit teary eyed actually. i mean, he knows messi's character-- and yes, argentinians can be real assholes (i know many). the story of his medical treatment is all true-- barcelona cured him when they couldn't find treatment at home. and the translation is not bad. peleandote =fighting / enano isn't really like "dwarf" but more like "shorty" in this context (though literally it means dwarf). pecho frio means more like "cold heart"-- he doesn't put everything on the pitch (sabella's daughter called him that). no se conforman is more like they are never content. 23 argentinian heroes.

anyway great read & reread.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

You must spread the Holy Ghost around before giving It to !@#$%! again.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

I never said gloating, but how is sulking like a teenage girl dumped by her boyfriend somehow better?

maybe you're projecting. he has a lovely girlfriend.

messi's sorrow is not for himself, is not about himself-- it's for the fucked up people of argentina who are in the hands of a left-wing kleptocracy that has reduced their economy to shit and the poor fuckers went to brazil without money in their pockets, slept on the beaches cuz they couldn't afford hotels, had no money for tickets, etc.

please understand-- the guy is not american. he's not an individualist. he's the most humble great player you'll see.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Please understand, its not his sorrow I am criticizing, its his timing. Again, guy is a professional athlete, there is a time and a place to reveal your lack of visible appreciation, when the world just elected you the best player in the World Cup and possibly hundreds of millions of people are watching live on television, suck it up and sulk in the locker room AFTER the game.

Part of being a world-class professional athlete is having that celebrity smile in key moments, you are literally the face of your sport.

[!@#$%!]

i googled "american smile" and this came up near the top

 

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Messi winning the Golden Boot..

 

[!@#$%!]

i won't argue this any further but i think you're projecting your own bias and issues onto a person you know very little about, and i'll leave it at that.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

i won't argue this any further but i think you're projecting your own bias and issues onto a person you know very little about, and i'll leave it at that.

What argument? We're just sharing our differing opinions about it, if anything it just provides for a balanced perspective. I totally get all the points you made, I just think again the timing of it all was a matter of poor sportsmanship. Whether or not it justifiably fits into a narrative of Argentina being a cocky team is another matter altogether

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

What argument? We're just sharing our differing opinions about it, if anything it just provides for a balanced perspective. I totally get all the points you made, I just think again the timing of it all was a matter of poor sportsmanship. Whether or not it justifiably fits into a narrative of Argentina being a cocky team is another matter altogether

yeah messi is unlike most argentinian stereotypes in that he went to barcelona when he was 12 to be raised by the heirs of anarcho-syndicalism so he's not a dick as if he had come of age in say buenos aires (ha ha). actually argentinians outside of buenos aires are more normal-- cordobeses are actually cool.

[demonrail666]

One of the reasons Messi struggles to win over the Argentinian masses is they consider him more Spanish than Argentinian.

[dead_battery]

still dont know what a footing ball is

 

[!@#$%!]

iz liek herrrling

[Bytor Peltor]

Curious if anyone else is watching The Open Championchip (golf)?

[demonrail666]

Sorry, England v India in the cricket right now. But I'm keeping an eye on the leaderboard in the Open.

[!@#$%!]

fuck you, pep, for letting go of toni kroos. fuck you fuck you fuck you.

[demonrail666]

Kroos had already rejected a new contract at Bayern. Great bit of business for Real though.

[!@#$%!]

that's because guardiola made him a bench warmer

[demonrail666]

Ah? He was a regular starter in the Bundesliga and the CL last season. I get the feeling Pep was very pro-Kroos and wouldn't be surprised if it was the board that wouldn't meet his contract demands rather than him.

[!@#$%!]

i haven't been able to watch directly but i was under a different impression

http://www.bayernzone.com/players/77...kroos-187.html

bundesliga is coming to fox in 2015. can't wait.

[demonrail666]

Kroos was no way frozen out by Pep. It was his first season so he was always gonna rotate players in and out and play them in different positions. And even with that Kroos only missed a few games in the BL and the CL. That story in the messageboard absolutely baffles me. It was obviously written in the second week of his two week 'exile' but he was back almost immediately after and was pretty much a mainstay all the way through.

The same thing happens here. Rooney's dropped for one game and the press rumours suddenly go wild.