[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by jon boy

i know, i mean robbing someone at gunpoint and on video too. what was the jury thinking?

again, my beef it the LENGTH of the sentence, not the conviction itself.

[jon boy]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

again, my beef it the LENGTH of the sentence, not the conviction itself.

and how is that a lynching?

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

YES - I do know a few felons and parolees. Some have served their time and have gone on to productive lives. They have great jobs, families and their past indiscretions no longer haunt them. YES - a police officer may "scrutinize" them a little more when pulled over for a traffic violation, but that's about it. The only thing they really "suffer" is not being able to own a firearm. Not so much that they a desire to own a handgun, but they did enjoy hunting in the past and this is no longer an option for them......and it never will be!






You would be a defense attorneys dream come true.

You do know that most employers frown upon felony convictions and years of unemployment right? You do know a parole certificate is not exactly a college degree correct? And also, you understand that a felony stop is a bit more then extensive scrutiny, that it involves being removed from your vehicle, hand cuffed immediately no questions asked, searched sometimes violently, and generally humiliated, sometimes for no reason at all? By coincidence I have never NOT been felony stopped by the police, whether on foot or in vehicle, though I am not exactly a convicted felon.

Originally Posted by jon boy

and how is that a lynching?

15 years is about THREE times the average sentence given for armed robbery, how is it not? Would you like to have to pay three times a normal fine for a parking ticket? or serve three times the normal county time for bullshit arrests? come on man, how is it not!

further, OJ is not exactly a young man, there is a good chance that he will die in prison. so I affirm my exaggeration and call it a lynching, particularly because of the racial sentiments of 90% of the people who say that he had it coming..

Originally Posted by pbradley

Then said black person can be ruled innocent and we can get a thread about how significant the trial is to black progress because, as well all know, fair trials only result in innocent verdicts.

no.
fair trials result in fair sentences.

[jon boy]

he's up for parole in 9, get over it.

[ZEROpumpkins]

Stop giving suchfriends the attention he so sorely craves.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by jon boy

he's up for parole in 9, get over it.

9 years eh? sounds like four to seven years too long for an armed robbery, that is just my opinion based upon the usual sentences handed down for these things.

[jon boy]

CHARGES AGAINST OJ SIMPSON
Conspiracy to commit a crime
Conspiracy to kidnap
Conspiracy to commit robbery
Two counts of first degree kidnapping
Burglary in possession of a deadly weapon
Two counts of armed robbery
Two counts of assault with a deadly weapon
Two counts of coercion with use of a deadly weapon

stop taking this to so seriously.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by ZEROpumpkins

Stop giving suchfriends the attention he so sorely craves.

quiet down, grownfolks are talking.

Originally Posted by jon boy

CHARGES AGAINST OJ SIMPSON
Conspiracy to commit a crime
Conspiracy to kidnap
Conspiracy to commit robbery
Two counts of first degree kidnapping
Burglary in possession of a deadly weapon
Two counts of armed robbery
Two counts of assault with a deadly weapon
Two counts of coercion with use of a deadly weapon

stop taking this to so seriously.

oh, so you mean they threw the book at him when 99% of criminal cases get the minimum sentencing and get all the excessive counts dropped? Have you ever even been to criminal court before or are you just that naive?

Most people get accused of a dozen crimes to make sure at least one sticks, and then the judge, who is generally an experience person in these regards, understands its all hype and sticks one or two majors, and issues subsequent sentencing.

[jon boy]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

your free to your opinion, he's free to his, and I am free to discuss it, and you could have just left this thread well alone if you didn't like it. I am expressing myself and reasoning with some grownfolks here, not pouting like a fourth grader who pulled the red card too many times. That condescending bullshit is inappropriate.

he's right though. you do take things too far then go on and on and on about it way too much. or turn almost everything into some god, rastafirah, sanctimonious spiel.

[SpectralJulianIsNotDead]

Being a victim of armed robbery, I wouldn't feel to comfortable if my assailant got out after 2 years. (I don't know if he was ever caught.)

[jon boy]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

quiet down, grownfolks are talking.


oh, so you mean they threw the book at him when 99% of criminal cases get the minimum sentencing and get all the excessive counts dropped? Have you ever even been to criminal court before or are you just that naive?

Most people get accused of a dozen crimes to make sure at least one sticks, and then the judge, who is generally an experience person in these regards, understands its all hype and sticks one or two majors, and issues subsequent sentencing.

worked in a court for over a year, worked in two prisons also.

he did what he did on camera for the most part and he will be up for parole in 9 years. i dont care.

[SpectralJulianIsNotDead]

You get convicted of 12 different charges including several felonies, 15 years is pretty minimal. OJ could have got life because of the kidnapping charge.

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

further, OJ is not exactly a young man, there is a good chance that he will die in prison. so I affirm my exaggeration and call it a lynching, particularly because of the racial sentiments of 90% of the people who say that he had it coming..

Lynching is defined as an extrajudicial punishment meted out by a mob. It is not defined by race.

Also bullshit statistic.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

Some overcome the obstacles and never see the inside of a jail again while others fall into the "repeat offender" category. Just because life is difficult after serving time, this shouldn't influence the amount of time one serves.

the difficulty of life after parole should definitely be considered during sentencing, the longer the sentence the more difficult to recover. Nine years in prison will ruin anyone for life, but this is more rhetorical now and less specific to OJ. The issue has moved from Simpson to the fairness of prison in general.

Employers don't hire people for all sorts of reasons......being a felon is just one of them.

Being a felon happens to a significant obstacle to employment that can actually do things like pay the rent, and in many people's circumstances, take care of a family. This makes the convictions a kind of life sentence, which carries on long after release.

NO - the felons I know haven't "automatically" been handcuffed when pulled over. They've been asked to step out of the vehicle and questioned, but so have I on occasion when being pulled over.

Your friends are lucky, but here in town the 'felony stop' is a common, but often illegal, occurrence. The one-times especially like it because it is a kind of public humiliation, all the skylarkers around pay extra attention when they see folks getting searched with and cuffed and thrown in the cage. And then the imitation small talk cops try to give you while you are handcuffed in the back of their caged car staring at guns and bullshit is even more absurd, if these dudes tried to do that same shit without the badge could you imagine? It is simply rude.

[jakeonguitar]

We should feel sorry for everyone/everything.

[tesla69]

Originally Posted by jakeonguitar

We should feel sorry for everyone/everything.

and be very sad all the time

[jon boy]

a real travesty of justice:

BOSTON - A man in Massachusetts is appealing a $100 ticket he got for driving to a hospital in the breakdown lane of a gridlocked Boston highway while his wife was in labour.

The Boston Globe reports that a state trooper pulled over John Davis and his wife Jennifer for using the breakdown lane Nov. 18.

The man says his wife's contractions were three minutes apart.

The couple says the trooper made them wait five to 10 minutes while he wrote a ticket for another car on Route 2, asked to see Jennifer's belly to prove her pregnancy, then issued them a ticket.

The couple made it to Mount Auburn Hospital in Cambridge.

Their daughter was born five hours later.

[girlgun]

^^^^

years ago, i had a friend who had fireworks blow up in his face. he drove into the city... to the hospital, and the cop waited outside the ER and then issued him a ticket for having fireworks inside city limits when he came out of the ER.

badass.

i think it was racial profiling. oh except he was a white 18 year old?

ps... he's dead now. (not from the fireworks)

[jakeonguitar]

 

So they just lynched OJ... 12.06.2008 04:24 PM SuchFriendsAreDangerous not sorry, but empathy, but on the right track compared to some folks here..

Sorry to tattle, but I was being about 99.8% sarcastic there. I truly don't care at all about O.J.'s situation/sentencing/trial(s). Just shows that the American system of government isn't a complete Charlie Foxtrot.

[terriblecanyons]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

bullshit! How could OJ have single-handedly stabbed to death two full grown adults simultaneously? Even if he hired an assassin, or got his own hands dirty, it could not gone down the way the trial presented..

so no, WE ALL DON'T KNOW, and what part makes me feel for this guy? cuz I DONT think that he murdered anyone, and even if HE DID ROB somebody, it is as I posted above, I don't even wish 15 years on the DUDES WHO ROBBED ME AT GUNPOINT..

of course, you present the critical issue here, since YOU believe that he KILLED two people, then you feel that 15 years is more than appropriate, however that is why I say he was lynched, because he was on trial for robbery in Las Vegas this time, not murder in brentwood.. and 15 years for robbery is fucked up for anyone, let alone the circumstances of this case.

Why do you care so much about something that doesn't even matter? Do you personally know the man? Or are you just looking for something new to whine about because you're running low on ideas?