[pokkeherrie]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

because it is a survey/discussion on Christianity. I did not want to have a religion thread specifically, if anything i didn't want to talk about religion at all, rather the cultural and historical bullshit we self-servingly masquerade as religion

fair enough

amen

[akprodr]

Originally Posted by akprodr

what do you get when you get when you cross a dyslexic, an insomniac, and an agnostic?

Someone who stays up nights wondering if there is a dog.

[Dr. Eugene Felikson]

I don't have enough generosity to be a Christian. How can I possibly spend so much time worrying about the problems of everyone else when I have more than enough on my own plate already?

[Rob Instigator]

christian chicks will suck a dick quicker than lightnin strikes.

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by akprodr

Someone who stays up nights wondering if there is a dog.

pay the man shirley

[akprodr]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

unification of ALL people is the answer to the problem of fragmentation and division amongst man and man.

I think the only real problem in the world today is lack of consideration for your fellow human beings.

I also think that, being raised a Catholic gives me a much better insight into how the rest of the world thinks. Its good as an upbringing but not that great as an actual religion. Abortion? Gays? I thought we were supposed to make up our own minds.

And for the record, everyone is entitled to MY opinion. AKA If I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you!

[akprodr]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

christian chicks will suck a dick quicker than lightnin strikes.

I think there's a song about that...

[ploesj]

my grandmother was a catholic, but i'm no longer religious.

[DeadDiscoDildo]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

christian chicks will suck a dick quicker than lightnin strikes.

WHAT?!

That was not my experience...

:-/

[pbradley]

Protholox


Which roughly translates to a perma-lapsed Catholic.

[automatic bzooty]

my maternal grandparents are protestant as fuck. my dad's mom was catholic.





i'm orthodox nothingtarian.

[Satan]

irish catholic atheist

[pbradley]

Fucking ex-Catholics all over the place.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by knox

Like I said, I understand exactly what you are saying. Personally, I think the answer to that is to effectively guarantee everyone's rights to individuality and choice, separating religion from laws and politics completely.



For that we need more education and tolerance, and perhaps making religion more unified and strong would actually go the opposite way.

I am not talking about unifying Christianity for old-time political clout like in Counter Reformation era. I am talking about honest Christians, who can deflect any of there political intentions or inclinations as Christians, should stop fighting against and condemning other Christians for purposes of denomination. Like peter tosh sang, "No mind denomination, that is all segregation.."

If we are Christians, we are all Christians, and until we begin to think that way, we will only be self-destructive. History powerfully demonstrates how dangerous Christians can be..

Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson

I don't have enough generosity to be a Christian. How can I possibly spend so much time worrying about the problems of everyone else when I have more than enough on my own plate already?

deep

Originally Posted by akprodr

I think the only real problem in the world today is lack of consideration for your fellow human beings.

I also think that, being raised a Catholic gives me a much better insight into how the rest of the world thinks. Its good as an upbringing but not that great as an actual religion. Abortion? Gays? I thought we were supposed to make up our own minds.

And for the record, everyone is entitled to MY opinion. AKA If I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you!

THANK YOU!

that is precisely the kind of cultural baggage I wanted to discuss! Another example many Anglicans are often carrying the cultural baggage of anti-Catholicism, almost being against anything remotely popish for the sake of spite alone! American Christians generally carry this same baggage, and the distance of time and place have greatly distorted it to the extreme that many americans are hateful bigots against Catholics but have no real knowledge or understanding of why..

When I talk to Christians of all denominations, what often shocks me the most is the amount of prejudice, ignorance and just plain baggage that these people are carrying, and for what? That is not Christianity! That is bullshit! Getting rid of the bullshit is what I am talking about, not necessarily make new bullshit to replace it

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by pbradley

Fucking ex-Catholics all over the place.

that speaks volumes.. thats why I took this little survey, I was curious all the different perspectives. I myself was raised strict Baptist, like hard-core.. but I was not feeling all that baggage so I first became a jack ass and then I became a Rastafari, because Rastafari people are more accepting of jack-asses so long as they are sincere and their antagonism is the baggage of people's so-called religion, and not worship itself. I never rebelled against God, I always felt a need to worship, however I felt a lot of angst against the baggage of the institutions. Today I am an Orthodox convert to Ethiopian Orthodox, ironically a Church with perhaps the MOST cultural and historical baggage BUT buried in all the bullshit is one of the most sincere, authentic and beautiful renditions of Christian faith. Orthodox gave me a complex language to express my faith, one which my baptist upbringing was too stifling to develop.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by pbradley

Fucking ex-Catholics all over the place.

every sperm is sacred

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

every sperm is sacred

ahh, the psychology of sexuality stiffled by catholics.. don't feel bad baptists can be worse! At least the idea of sanctity gives a bit of purpose to abstainance, many baptists/protestants just have a lot of sexual guilt trips to complicate the expression of their sexuality.

ironically Orthodox does not necessarily have this problem, because culturally sexuality (at least hetero) has a lot more psychological freedom than in the West. An Orthodox Bishop explains this well in a discussion between the contrasting interpretations of The Fall and Adam and Eve narratives and their theoligical significance. Traditionally and cultural, many Eastern Orthodox thinkers interpret these stories in a spiritual way, and not really giving any sexual connotation, but many Western Christians strongly affiliate Original Sin and Sexuality. In fact in Western Christianity, sexuality itself can be seen as a manifestation of said Original Sin! Thats just a bunch of nonsense! The bible is actually a pretty kinky book, Christians should cut themselves a lot more slack in this regard

[Glice]

Originally Posted by pbradley

Fucking ex-Catholics all over the place.

At the risk of saying anything... I'm a swimming world of NO but also 'but...' with regards that.

[artsygrrl]

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

Catholic background. Two members of my family converted to Jehovah's Witnesses, and my eldest brother converted to buddhism a couple of years ago.

Same here; raised Catholic. I excommunicated myself years ago, but the damage was already done. Buddhism sounds peaceful and genuine. The Jewish faith sounds pretty cool also.
I say no to Jehovah's Witness, Holy Rollers, or those who speak in tongues, tho.

[akprodr]

apparently, there are some 'christians' who think that catholics aren't christians. How fucked up is that?

George fucking bush is the worst christian on the planet