[Derek]

Originally Posted by ilduclo

Sanders: "I'm in good health, but won't release my medical records"

yeah, sure

 

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bleeding aside, uncle joe had eyelid surgery i think

like greta van susteren

 

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this one is very fucking funny

Biden is the most electable candidate, just not right here or right now

By
Alexandra Petri
Columnist

Feb. 10, 2020 at 3:20 p.m. MST

HUDSON, N.H. — It is very clear that what Joe Biden has in spades, what we fear the other candidates may not have, is electability. That is why you should vote for him: because, assuredly, people will vote for him! People currently at your caucus site or polling place are not voting for him yet, but they should, because, as previously stated, he is electable. They should vote for him because he is just the sort of man for whom people will definitely vote. Just not the people right here or right now.

There is a complicated physics to this, which you have to understand. I do not think I am explaining it right. Biden is still the most electable candidate, although he got only the fourth-most votes in Iowa and is polling only fourth best in other places. But that is a misunderstanding. Just because people there in Iowa were not voting for him does not mean he is not electable. They were just trying to show that their state should not be first in the process. Consider how unelectable Elizabeth Warren is — and she got more votes than he did! He will be voted for by people in states such as Pennsylvania and, of course, Ohio and, to be sure, South Carolina and definitely, absolutely Wisconsin and maybe even others! His electability is in the future. He is the one who will bring first this party together, and then the nation!

Also, Republicans will vote for him. When you look at his totals currently, you must mentally add a flotilla of Republicans who have not yet materialized. They are not here now, because this is the Democratic primary, but they will absolutely be here, in the future. You must believe that people will vote for him, in the future! That is what electability means.

Do not get him confused with Iowa victors Bernie Sanders, who is too far left to be electable, or Pete Buttigieg, who seems like he emerged fully formed from an electability vat (which paradoxically makes him less electable). Amy Klobuchar is also running, but you can tell she is less electable than Biden because she got fewer votes than he did in Iowa. Yes, I know that is not how I just said electability worked. Keep up!

Just watch his campaign in action and you will see what electability means. It almost feels like a misnomer to call his rallies “rallies.” He does not need to rally people around him. They are already rallied, convened by his electability.

Instead, in Hudson, a crowd of approximately 600 stood silently in a gymnasium as Biden spoke with increasing fervor about the bewilderment and anger he feels at the trajectory of the country and about how his Cabinet will be sure to include “women and blacks and browns.” The room was deathly still. Someone dressed as a polar bear wordlessly protested fossil fuels. According to the banners, the girls’ basketball team had not won a championship since 1998 — 10 years after his first unsuccessful presidential campaign, 10 years before his next one. Twenty-two years before this one.

But this is what it means to be the ever-electable Joe Biden. To be always running and never quite president, always electable until the race begins. He’s almost at the point where Henry Clay would feel bad for him. And there is so much to Joe — a deep sorrow, decades of experience and a folksiness designed in an era when only certain people got to be folks, less and less serviceable.

“I think his time is past,” Pat Darrin, 73, told me after watching the Hudson rally. But how can his time have passed if it never came? Joe Biden is electable. Just not here, or now. Maybe back then? No, that’s not right. Maybe in the future? Just not right here. Just not right now.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-or-right-now/

[Bytor Peltor]

Tonight, the Biden separation continues!

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yang and bennet drop out

sad for yang—but who the fuck was bennet? i’ve forgotten, lol.

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Candidate Pct. ... Votes
Sanders 27.6% ... 32,614
Buttigieg 23.5 ... 27,721
Klobuchar 19.8 ... 23,363
Warren 9.5 ... 11,253
Biden 8.6 ... 10,177
Total votes from 43.6% of precincts 118,150

bernie ahead as expected, uncle joe is toast vs his expectations, warren also keeps sinking, amy on the rise

bernie has the progressive mantle, for the moderates i think we’ll have a pete/amy battle, and then bloomberg will show up and toss the chessboard out the window

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updated:
buttigieg closes the gap, klobuchar gathering momentum, top 3 candidates get same delegate numbers warren/biden also tie with 0

Candidate Pct. ... Votes ... Del.
Sanders 26.1% ... 65,487 ... 6
Buttigieg 24.3 ... 60,874 ... 6
Klobuchar 19.8 ... 49,768 ... 6
Warren 9.4 ... 23,594 ... 0
Biden 8.4 ... 21,049 ... 0
Total votes from 84% of precincts 250,780

rough sums:
progressives 35.5%, 6 delegates
moderates.. 52.5%, 12 delegates

[tw2113]

we either need Hunger Games style elections or just like...3months max campaigning. this 1-1.5 year election cycle sucks dick.

[Bytor Peltor]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

bernie has the progressive mantle

 

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Originally Posted by tw2113

we either need Hunger Games style elections or just like...3months max campaigning. this 1-1.5 year election cycle sucks dick.

 

i enjoy the horse race. honest.

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eta: speaking of which: more updates!

Candidate Pct. ... Votes ... Del.
Sanders 26.0 % ... 71,410 ... 9
Buttigieg 24.4 ... 67,044 ... 9
Klobuchar 19.7 ... 54,244 ... 6
Warren 9.3 ... 25,612 ... 0
Biden 8.4 ... 23,022 ... 0
Total votes from 89.3% of precincts 274,785

delegate count:
progressives 9
moderates 15

[tw2113]

I'm not paid enough

[Bytor Peltor]

According to the Vegas sportsbooks, BERNIE is the odds on favorite to represent DEMS in 2020. It was just four years ago when BERNIE was considered an outsider and he was routinely badmouthing Democrats......my oh my how times change!

TRUMP was the biggest winner last night......receiving more votes (doubling Obama’s 2012 votes) than ANY incumbent in granite history!!!

WHO Drops Out First ? ? ?

Elizabeth Warren......peekaboo

or

No Show Joe = Lying Dog Face Pony Soldier

 

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berniesiblings in the news for attacking culinary union 226 after the union published a flyer saying mandatory single payer would destroy their health plan.

https://thenevadaindependent.com/art...-emails-tweets

The politically powerful Culinary Union is punching back at supporters of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who have lashed out at the union after it began distributing a one-pager to members warning that the Democratic presidential hopeful would “end Culinary Healthcare” if elected president.

Culinary Union Secretary-Treasurer Geoconda Arguello-Kline said in a statement Wednesday that Sanders supporters have “viciously attacked” the union since it began distributing a one-pager to union members that takes specific aim at the Vermont senator over his Medicare-for-all policy. The Culinary Union, which provides insurance to 130,000 of its members and their families through a special kind of union health trust, strongly opposes the creation of a single-payer, government-run health insurance system on the grounds that it would eliminate their health plan.


https://thenevadaindependent.com/art...cted-president

The Culinary Union, which provides health insurance to 130,000 workers and their family members through a special trust fund, strongly opposes Medicare for all on the basis that it would eliminate the health insurance they have negotiated for over several decades. Health insurance provided by the Culinary Health Fund is considered to be some of the best in the state, and the union even opened a 60,000-square-foot state-of-the-art health clinic a couple of years ago for its members.

The union, considered an organizing behemoth in the Silver State, has been known to tip the scales in elections in the past. Though the 60,000-member union has not yet decided whether it will endorse in the Democratic presidential primary, the flyer appears to be part of a coordinated campaign ahead of Nevada’s Feb. 22 Democratic presidential primary and shows the union will not be sitting idly by, with or without an endorsement.

[ilduclo]

Yeah, the casino magnates determined quite some time ago it was better to support unions than to have their workers suffering and ruin the “hospitality industry” there. Union in NV is a good thing. I do not expect employers of any kind, public or private, to pay any $ back to workers if their health care costs are somehow absorbed or subsidized by a govt plan. As a former union employee, SEIU and AFSCME, and a graduate of Washington State University, I personally oppose Medicare for all, and also any free higher education or educational loan excusing ideas that are not means tested.

[MisterTrick]

Some of you know me, and met some of you in person

I am so burned out on politics, I am done with Bernie-Bros calling me names for being a Warren supporter, I frankly just wanna get the fuck out of this country permanently

People lose sight real quick how bad it really is if they have a cushy job and a roof over their head, when you lose that, you see how desperation kicks in

[Bytor Peltor]

WAR - The Human Disease That Has Claimed Mankind FOREVER!

Sticks & Stones
Spears & Knives
Guns & Cannonballs
Tanks & Planes
Bombs & Missiles
Nerve Gas & Nuclear Weapons...Laser Beans


When Will They Ever Learn ? ? ?

The end of this tape is sounding like a 2nd Chapter Of Act’s church worship service.

I would love to make some old school mixtape magic with it!!!

 

[Bytor Peltor]

The degree to which Michael Bloomberg is using his fortune to fundamentally alter & manipulate U.S. politics to his personal advantage extends way beyond ads.......interesting thread that’s worth your time!

[choc e-Claire]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

The degree to which Michael Bloomberg is using his fortune to fundamentally alter & manipulate U.S. politics to his personal advantage extends way beyond ads.......interesting thread that’s worth your time!

This is it, people. Irony is dead.

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so beauregard has extended his mental litterbox into this thread too? lol

ANYWAY.

trump surrogates like lung limbaugh have started the shit now about pete buttigieg.

“is america ready to see a gay man as president?” sort of shit

YES. YES WE ARE READY. NOW KINDLY FUCK OFF.

he’s not my preferred candidate in the primaries, but any of the current democrats is better than the traitor in chief presently in office, who is intent of wrecking everything in order to prop up his demented ego

anyway, please continue with the regular programming

[ilduclo]

Bitey : "the saltiness of the president's taint is an under-rated delicacy."