[Hip Priest]

Does anyone know who invented cheese?

[jon boy]

the hanibal lektor franchise is becoming as rubbish as the star wars one.

[nicfit]

^^^^
the first photographer. (this is the answer to hip priest's question, not to the thread question)

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by The Lung

oh yeh I've seen red dragon, I thought it was pretty good. Have you seen Dead Man with Johnny Depp? Some Indian guy thinks that he is William Blake, I thought it was really good.

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i love this movie

[nicfit]

Anyway, the greatest genius of all time is whoever "invented" writing.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by nicfit

Anyway, the greatest genius of all time is whoever "invented" writing.

So we've narrowed it down to the Sumerians. Because, unless I'm mistaken, the epic of Gilgamesh is the oldest writing extant. Bit dubious that, obviously.

Did you know there's a pyramid in Bosnia? Everyone loves the Caucasus.

I abstain from voting for the greatest genius. There are many people I think are genuises, some of them I like, some of them I don't. Hegel, for instance, is an exceptional and paradigm-shifting person, which is what I understand by genius. Doesn't mean I agree with him though. Emotionally, I'd probably go with Bach or possibly Beethoven, but I'm not that inclined towards scientists. I think Isambard Kingdom Brunel should get a look in, by the by.

[Toilet & Bowels]

pythagoras or someone

[hotbutterknives]

nietsche

[SpectralJulianIsNotDead]

Originally Posted by Hip Priest

Does anyone know who invented cheese?

No, but when I was little, my mom told me a bedtime story about a poor european cheesemaker who was about to become ruined and mice nibbling holes in a piece of his cheese gave him inspiration to create the first Swiss cheese and it saved is cheese shop.

[Rob Instigator]

cheese and wine and beer were all accicdental proceses discovered by people living in the Sumer region more than likely, the area now called Iraq, the cradle of human civilization.

the first cheese was likely goat's milk cheese. back then all sorts of liquids were stored in goatskins and in bladders made from animal organs (including actual bladders)

milk was put in one and through constant motion and churning turned into the first butter. some other peron left the milk in the bag for awhile and it curdled and created the first cheese. beer and wine were also discovered i this method. old beer being absically barley and oat mush made into a stew and left to ferment.


without these discoveries humanity would never have succeded as it has.

wine beer and cheese and butter.

[krastian]

Hugh Hefner

[Katy]

The Dalai Lama.

All 14 times.

[pantophobia]

the guy that can truly make everyone happy, or atleast content

[SpectralJulianIsNotDead]

Kegmama- that was completely unintentional.

But there is a pretty obvious reason not many women are considered. They haven't been allowed that sort of a role in society until quite recently.

Joan of Arc would be another good candidate- she was not the greatest military leader of all time, but she was a young teenager when she helped turn the tide in the battle of Orleans.

[jon boy]

marie curie.

[sonicl]

Bill Watterson, creator of Calvin & Hobbes. His genius has been proven elsewhere on this board.

[ALIEN ANAL]

Originally Posted by jon boy

marie curie.

I agree man, heartbreaker was a classic song, and Glitter! top shelf shit right there!

 

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by Kegmama

Oh man, I know it was not intentional! I was just looking at your list thinking how strange it is that women have not been universally recognized in society as 'geniuses'. I mean, I know a lot of women personally who are geniuses in their own right, high IQ's, total masterminds, etc. But I honestly can't think of any that have changed the world, its driving me crazy. You are right though, its wierd how much has changed for us girls just in very recent times.

It is indeed a strange situation. It has been much discussed by scientists, philosophers, social historians, etc. It is an odd thing, not entirely relegated to women's roles in society. there are by numbers alone just as many women geniuses as men geniuses. However, what is the one thing that male geniuses have had in advantage over women geniuses as far as ability to dedicate themselves wholheartedly and to the exclusion of everything else in their lives? childbirth. men do not have babies. men do not nurse babies. until very recently in human history, men had very little to do with the day to day care and raising of their children, leaving them free o spend ten years figuring out thermodynamics, or writing the great novel, or describing thenext economic shift in sociopolitical circles, etc. the same goes for the arts and all sciences. the women that have made massive contributions and are certifiable geniuses are mostly women who did not have children or never got married or were lucky enough to have someone to take the children.

It may sound sexist but it is not. this is how the world has been. combine that with the societal difficulties women have had in a patriarchal society where many times they are seen as lesser creatures, as second to men (look at china where they have too many boys now and not enough girls), and then add in the very real difference in the way male and female brains work.
in our early tribal or family group days it was very likely women that created pottery, women that created clothing and textiles, women that created cooking methods, women that discovered new plants to eat, women that discovered and prepared dyes for fabric and such, women that created baskets, all items crucial to the development of humanity. As Isaac Asimov wrote, besides pottery, none of these primal and necessary inventions are meant to last and none have. It is near impossible to gauge the genius required for some primitive human to craft a basket, or to do any of these things.

plus women's distract us men;'s with their sweet round butts and their curvy bodies and their soft tittays.

[nomadicfollower]

It seems obvious that Einstein is a great genius, possibly the greatest of the ones you mentioned. But I'm more inclined to ask how do we measure genius? (it's obviously not historical impact (as some of those who replied seem to think), positive or negative, so what is it?)
If someone can answer me that, I may in turn be able to answer the question.

[compulsive diarrhea, jico]

the guy who invented the wheel.