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Old 04.03.2007, 07:01 PM   #41
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Books as a whole are incredibly overrated.

I didn't think Dostoevsky's shit was that interesting.
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Old 04.03.2007, 07:09 PM   #42
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I wouldn't call Will Self overrated.

For me, got to be the apostle John. To me the Book of Revelations is ridiculous and nearly incomprehensible, yet it constitutes such a large portion of so many Christian denominations doctrine. Double ughhh.
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Old 04.03.2007, 07:21 PM   #43
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Whatever happened to saying fuck it to reading and just watching the movie renditions? We all know they're ALWAYS superior and usually casted so well. C'mon.


It's like when you go to someone in high schools myspace:

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Old 04.03.2007, 07:22 PM   #44
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And by the way, I'd agree with Palahniuk on this one.
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Old 04.03.2007, 07:32 PM   #45
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Honestly, I fucking hate Shakespeare. Say what you will, but most of his stories, as interesting as they may be, were just copied from old myths and fables and shit like that. Hamlet is based on an old Scandinavian (I think it's Scandinavian) tale. Plus, I do not give a fuck for the language he uses. Calll me ignorant, call me whatever the hell you want, I hate Shakespeare, and I hate his words.
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Old 04.03.2007, 07:34 PM   #46
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Honestly, I fucking hate Shakespeare. Say what you will, but most of his stories, as interesting as they may be, were just copied from old myths and fables and shit like that. Hamlet is based on an old Scandinavian (I think it's Scandinavian) tale. Plus, I do not give a fuck for the language he uses. Calll me ignorant, call me whatever the hell you want, I hate Shakespeare, and I hate his words.

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Old 04.03.2007, 07:35 PM   #47
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Honestly, I fucking hate Shakespeare. Say what you will, but most of his stories, as interesting as they may be, were just copied from old myths and fables and shit like that. Hamlet is based on an old Scandinavian (I think it's Scandinavian) tale. Plus, I do not give a fuck for the language he uses. Calll me ignorant, call me whatever the hell you want, I hate Shakespeare, and I hate his words.

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Old 04.03.2007, 07:39 PM   #48
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I have to say that i'm glad to see that the whole Kerouac bubble seems to have finally burst. I remember reading On the Road as a teenager and thinking how I must have missed something but no, it would appear that maybe it really is that tedious.
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Old 04.03.2007, 07:44 PM   #49
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I definitely don't "get" Kerouac to the degree that some people seem to. He has good lines and all that, but it's moreso the overall Kerouac thing that I just don't follow.
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Old 04.03.2007, 07:44 PM   #50
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i dont see how shakespeare can be overrated, the little bastard wrote some 40 masterpieces, sure some are weaker than others but if people bothered to read him more i think we would throw around the word "genius" greater care.

I'm stoned right now but I rarely speak more honestly than when I am, so I'll just say that that's probably the best post I've read since joining this forum.

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Old 04.03.2007, 08:06 PM   #51
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a part of judging writers i think is looking at what they did as aprt of their time, and its not so fair to just put them all in the same group , as obviously each generation is building off of what the last has done.... ive been sick of shakespeare before but he has been re-introduced to me recently as a a guy who wrote in a time where everyone was comparing their lovers to sunbeams and summers nights and flying rainbow lazers and what not , and he made it a point to say that his lover WASNT like that , that those standards are crap , but that he loved his partner anyway . i can respect him for just doing something new for what he knew .

ive been aggravated for chuck palahniuk's work but ultimately i always go back for seconds and thirds . the style itself gets aggravating, yeah , but he still manages to capture small strange essences of humanity in a clear , clever, yet digestable way .
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Stephen King, who writes his hack while the fucking Doors are playing in the background for Crissakes!
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Old 04.03.2007, 08:12 PM   #53
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John Steinbeck. "East of eden" bored me to tears and "The Grapes Of Wrath" isn't much better. The whole structure of one chapter moving the story along and then the following chapter explain something in a kind of stream-of-conciousness way that will happen in the next chapter. It just doesn't work for me.

Another is James Joyce. "Ulysses" is unreadable.
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Old 04.03.2007, 08:14 PM   #54
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As a novelist, I actually think that Stephen King deserves a far greater reputatoin than the genre(s) he's chosen to write in have so far allowed him.
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Old 04.03.2007, 08:15 PM   #55
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John Steinbeck. "East of eden" bored me to tears and "The Grapes Of Wrath" isn't much better. The whole structure of one chapter moving the story along and then the following chapter explain something in a kind of stream-of-conciousness way that will happen in the next chapter. It just doesn't work for me.

Another is James Joyce. "Ulysses" is unreadable.

I started reading Grapes of Wrath and then decided it was too boring.
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Steinbeck's Cannery Row is beautiful.
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John Steinbeck. "East of eden" bored me to tears and "The Grapes Of Wrath" isn't much better. The whole structure of one chapter moving the story along and then the following chapter explain something in a kind of stream-of-conciousness way that will happen in the next chapter. It just doesn't work for me.

See, I think East of Eden is a great and marvelous novel. It's difficult for me to understand how someone could think it was boring when I had a hard time putting it down, but that's all right. The Grapes of Wrath is good, but not on the level of East of Eden.
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I've only ever read The Catcher in the Rye, and that was at an age where people usually tend to start thinking Salinger is the coolest thing ever, but yeah, it just wasn't for me.
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See, I think East of Eden is a great and marvelous novel. It's difficult for me to understand how someone could think it was boring when I had a hard time putting it down, but that's all right. The Grapes of Wrath is good, but not on the level of East of Eden.

The real trouble I had with East of Eden was it's length. It could have easily been 200 pages shorter. And too much emphasis was placed on Kate. Also, it felt like, despite it's length, it ended too quickly. All that plodding along and everything happens in 50 pages or less.
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