star wars vs. star trek - Page 3

Trasher02 · 04.26.2006, 01:20 PM

i like star wars
episode 1 is my favorite

krastian · 04.26.2006, 02:32 PM

You rebel scum.

qprogeny79 · 04.26.2006, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

star wars is great, but the last three movies showed what it really was about, which is meaningless posturing disguised as myth.

it is shit. star wars has died and rotted and you all know it. nothing will erase the wonder of the first three movies, but those movies were not sci-fi, nor were they ever meant to be. they are serials, cliiffhangers, old school hollywood adventure movies re-set for the future. in that they are homage.

star trek has always been about ideas, which is what all true science fiction is about. it is morality plays. it involves human decisions, human morality, human essence, not just shooting ships and some BULLSHIT fucking "force" mystical nonsense.

star trek is fantastic.

exactly. let me get one thing clear: if you like star wars but not star trek, YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED STAR TREK. people tend to just blow it off as the quintessential geek series -- and i suppose with the dilithium crystals and beaming up and communicators and such it is, but no more than star wars with its lightsabers and death stars -- but they judge it while totally missing the POINT of the show, which is to explore basic human issues of identity, morality, and place in the cosmos. it is philosophy in the guise of sci-fi, something to which star wars could never lay claim. star wars, while definitely fun, is a mere action thriller series.

Savage Clone · 04.26.2006, 05:42 PM

George Lucas is a hack writer.

Toilet & Bowels · 04.26.2006, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by qprogeny79

exactly. let me get one thing clear: if you like star wars but not star trek, YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED STAR TREK. people tend to just blow it off as the quintessential geek series -- and i suppose with the dilithium crystals and beaming up and communicators and such it is, but no more than star wars with its lightsabers and death stars -- but they judge it while totally missing the POINT of the show, which is to explore basic human issues of identity, morality, and place in the cosmos. it is philosophy in the guise of sci-fi, something to which star wars could never lay claim. star wars, while definitely fun, is a mere action thriller series.

death sabres? seems like you've never watched star wars.

qprogeny79 · 04.26.2006, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

death sabres? seems like you've never watched star wars.

where do you see "death sabres?" i said LIGHTSABERS and DEATH STARS.

HaydenAsche · 04.26.2006, 09:35 PM

I never watched either.

schizophrenicroom · 04.26.2006, 09:49 PM

rob- thanks. episode iii is a boatload of fun, but i wouldn't consider star wars sci-fi. episode iv originally started out as just one movie, and only because it was popular it became a series (and thank god, empire strikes back is AWESOME).

nomadicfollower · 04.26.2006, 09:51 PM

Look at all the trekkies: !@#$%!, Glice, pantophobia, qprogeny79, Rob Instigator, toxic johnny...

What a bunch of nerds.

Daycare Nation · 04.26.2006, 09:54 PM

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where do you see "death sabres?" i said LIGHTSABERS and DEATH STARS.

LOL! I know! I'm totally laughing at the name Toilet and Bowels and that priceless avatar as well. I think we have a comic genius on our hands!

Love,
Daycare Nation

The 97th Hammer · 04.26.2006, 10:23 PM

You guy do know that Star Wars is to some degree a rip-off of a soviet propaganda film, right? Go watch Sergei Eisenstein's Alexander Nevsky and laugh whilst your childhood is destroyed. Star Trek just doesn't sit with me anymore. I vote Doctor Who and Babylon Five.

schizophrenicroom · 04.26.2006, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The 97th Hammer

Doctor Who and Babylon Five.

marry me.

!@#$%! · 04.26.2006, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by nomadicfollower

Look at all the trekkies: !@#$%!, Glice, pantophobia, qprogeny79, Rob Instigator, toxic johnny...

What a bunch of nerds.

hey man, no need to get sore about the low IQ. we're all human...

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ps im not a trekkie btw-- i just thing it's not as bad as that lucas crap, and it actually influence the generation of geeks that gave birth to the computer age... you're on the internet, aren't you?

Toilet & Bowels · 04.27.2006, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The 97th Hammer

You guy do know that Star Wars is to some degree a rip-off of a soviet propaganda film, right? Go watch Sergei Eisenstein's Alexander Nevsky and laugh whilst your childhood is destroyed. Star Trek just doesn't sit with me anymore. I vote Doctor Who and Babylon Five.

star wars also rips off a film called The Hidden Fortress by Akira Kurosawa and supposedly the Lensman books by E.E. Smith, but I've never read them.

anyway while it's all well and good to say that star trek deals with weightier themes and is philosophy as sci-fi, it's also hardly a taxing or challenging program to watch, and is far from intellectual or enlightening, it's not much different to something like the X-Men (which I love). and a shit episode of star trek is far more annoying to watch than anything in the original three star wars films (i.e. the real star wars films), even the ewoks. however, george lucas is a gaylord and the new SW films are soul destroying, i don't think he even comprehends what it was that made the original 3 films so great and why everyone liked them.

screamingskull · 04.27.2006, 05:58 AM

starwars

Rob Instigator · 04.27.2006, 09:23 AM

star wars, the original was way ahead of it's time in the issues it dealt with.
the next generation will stand the test of time as the best sci fi televisaion show of the past 20 years.
deep space 9 was as dense and rich and harsh and cruel as the very best sci fi shows. it was involved and long and traumatic.
the emotions that star wars deals with are surface emotions, simple emotions, children's emotions.
there is nothing in star wars to compare to the depth and richness adn intelligence of the stra trek series and universe.

Trasher02 · 04.27.2006, 09:28 AM

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there is nothing in star wars to compare to the depth and richness adn intelligence of the stra trek series and universe.

aren't you the spock lookalike on that star trek convention?

just kidding bro

Rob Instigator · 04.27.2006, 12:01 PM

Live long and prosper

ha!

Inhuman · 04.27.2006, 12:06 PM

I never really got into Star Trek at all. The first three Star Wars were classic though, but I wish they never released Episodes 1-3. Episode 3 was the only one that I found decent, but there were waayyy too many flaws in them.

qprogeny79 · 04.27.2006, 12:30 PM

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Live long and prosper

ha!

hey, wait, i am spock.

no, then again, i am not spock.

View Poll Results: which do you prefer?
star wars	44	86.27%
star trek	7	13.73%
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The 97th Hammer bad moon rising Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Iowa City Posts: 133	You guy do know that Star Wars is to some degree a rip-off of a soviet propaganda film, right? Go watch Sergei Eisenstein's Alexander Nevsky and laugh whilst your childhood is destroyed. Star Trek just doesn't sit with me anymore. I vote Doctor Who and Babylon Five.
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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,991	star wars, the original was way ahead of it's time in the issues it dealt with. the next generation will stand the test of time as the best sci fi televisaion show of the past 20 years. deep space 9 was as dense and rich and harsh and cruel as the very best sci fi shows. it was involved and long and traumatic. the emotions that star wars deals with are surface emotions, simple emotions, children's emotions. there is nothing in star wars to compare to the depth and richness adn intelligence of the stra trek series and universe. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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Inhuman invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,807	I never really got into Star Trek at all. The first three Star Wars were classic though, but I wish they never released Episodes 1-3. Episode 3 was the only one that I found decent, but there were waayyy too many flaws in them. __________________ Inhuman no longer dwells on here. http://about.me/robinbastien
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