Reassessing Dirty - Page 3

joe11121 · 02.15.2009, 05:30 PM

JC is one of my favourite SY songs, the rest of the album is pretty good too. Some is garbage though

deflinus · 02.15.2009, 05:39 PM

probably the least listened to album of theirs. thurston should of just added genetic in that album. it definitely would of saved it. and i dont understand why everyone likes 100% so much. its good but not great.

wish fulfillment is one of my favorite lee songs of all time

Derek · 02.15.2009, 06:02 PM

...worst SY album after Experimental Jetset

Death & the Maiden · 02.16.2009, 05:20 AM

My second SY album. I quite liked it when I got it, but not so much now. I prefer it to Goo, but Dirty doesn't seem to have any classic tracks (Tunic, Mote, Titanium Expose) like Goo does.

Rob Instigator · 02.16.2009, 09:51 AM

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It would have been a much stronger album if Shoot, Creme Brulee, Chapel Hill, Youth Against Fascism, and Nic Fit were taken off though.

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yr fucking crazy

shoot, creme brulee chapel hill Youth against and Nic fit are fucking AWESOME. youth against is straightforward singing with some of the greatest skronk riffin ever.

chapel hill makes me wistful and emotional! shoot is a fucking bhypnotic crescendo.

Rob Instigator · 02.16.2009, 09:53 AM

Dirty has wish fulfilment.
Swinsuit Issue
JC
fuck yeah

no one ever mentions how awesomne disappearer is on GOO. love that fucking song. great video too.

greedrex · 02.16.2009, 01:02 PM

excellent LP with just a couple of downers (Cremebrulée, they should have put Generic instead, but that's history).
I think i can say it's my least favourite of all their regular LPs but it still rocks and the songwriting is top of the pops. pun intended.

EVOLghost · 02.16.2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by joe11121

JC is one of my favourite SY songs, the rest of the album is pretty good too. Some is garbage though

Definitely my favorite off the album. Kim sounds awesome and the lyrics are equally awesome.

waltermcphilp · 02.17.2009, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Derek

...worst SY album after Experimental Jetset

i like both of these albums. that is all.

barnaclelapse · 02.17.2009, 10:21 AM

I'll admit it isn't quite as amazing as I thought it was the first time I heard it, but this is still very much an album I like to pull out once in a while and listen to.

Wish Fulfillment and Swimsuit Issue are still two of my favorites.

Derek · 02.17.2009, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by waltermcphilp

i like both of these albums. that is all.

I think they're bad. Not just bad by SY standards but... bad.

[Sandbag] · 02.17.2009, 10:46 AM

i love this album. the production is alright.. i'm not gonna say it's great but i do think it fits the songs... guitars are paired in left and right speakers... it sounds easy and powerful... i dont know if a more messy or noisy production would serve these songs.

the structure in 'chapel hill' and 'sugar kane' is just genious... it starts, then goes into the verse, chorus, verse, chorus structure and then a middle part + solo that is just so fantastic and different from the rest of the song melodies that when the verse kicks in again you can't believe it's the same song... as for the other songs.. theyre all 10/10

im glad they made an album like this and im glad i can enjoy this as much as lets say nycg&f or any SYR

joe11121 · 02.17.2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by EVOLghost

Definitely my favorite off the album. Kim sounds awesome and the lyrics are equally awesome.

Oh yes! I love the lyrics on JC, definitely my favourite Kim has ever written. It's fantastic, although it is a terribly sad song, dedicated to Joe Cole. 100% was also dedicated to him.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 02.17.2009, 09:59 PM

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BY FAR their worst album. Boring, generic, predictable, plodding, sub-grunge bullshit. Full of lame riffs, uninteresting moments, and the slickest production (in a bad way.. drum samples!) ever. Just embarassingly bad. The worst moments that weren't on Goo. "wish fulfillment" is a nice enough song, and "Chapel hill" is one of the few sy songs with a guitar solo (and it's surprisingly good -- and i hate guitar solos!). all in all, it's just too long and hard to listen to. some girl tried to get me to buy this instead of confusion is sex, my first sonic youth album -- can you IMAGINE if this was someone's first SY album?! damn...

Just a very, very unfortunate album.

haha, Dirty was my first SY album.
I really like it.
And Purr is great, in my opinion.

Rob Instigator · 02.17.2009, 10:34 PM

dirty rules.

samuel · 02.17.2009, 11:54 PM

I don't know why, but I can't get into Youth Against Fascism. Every other song, I like. As for the album as a whole, I would have enjoyed it more if they left out:

Swimsuit Issue - The ending is cool. The music is cool. I just think the lyrics in the beginning are lacking.

Youth Against Fascism - I just can't get into it.

Nic Fit - It doesn't really add anything to the album.

Purr - I love the breakdown in the middle, especially the harmonics, but I think it's a pretty boring song overall.

Minus those four and add:

Genetic & The Destroyed Room

That would have made the album perfect for me. It's still really, really good though.

uhler · 02.18.2009, 01:08 AM

yeah their worst album. there's something about it i don't like. maybe it's the sonic youth trying to play grunge sound of it. i really like "nicfit" (mostly because i love the original) and "jc"

Rob Instigator · 02.18.2009, 09:48 AM

what "grunge?" you've been brainwashed. there was no "grunge". all sonic youth was trying to do was make a very chunky sounding rock sonic record, hence the joke name of "dirty" to amke fun of the wyhole "grunge" crap. "grunge" was a fashion fad . of all the bands labeled "grunge" the only one that the connotations of that name fit is Mudhoney.

every other one was more stoner rock, heavy metal, classic rock, a combination of all the above.

the mudhoney rules all and dirty rules all!!!!!!

joe11121 · 02.18.2009, 09:13 PM

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i really like "jc"

JC is amazing

02.15.2009, 05:30 PM	#41
joe11121 expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brantford, Canada Posts: 1,843	JC is one of my favourite SY songs, the rest of the album is pretty good too. Some is garbage though
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02.15.2009, 05:39 PM	#42
deflinus expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: in the darkest part of your mind Posts: 1,737	probably the least listened to album of theirs. thurston should of just added genetic in that album. it definitely would of saved it. and i dont understand why everyone likes 100% so much. its good but not great. wish fulfillment is one of my favorite lee songs of all time
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02.15.2009, 06:02 PM	#43
Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	...worst SY album after Experimental Jetset
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02.16.2009, 05:20 AM	#44
Death & the Maiden expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,036	My second SY album. I quite liked it when I got it, but not so much now. I prefer it to Goo, but Dirty doesn't seem to have any classic tracks (Tunic, Mote, Titanium Expose) like Goo does. __________________ www.myspace.com/ghostofanidealwife
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02.16.2009, 09:53 AM	#46
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,991	Dirty has wish fulfilment. Swinsuit Issue JC fuck yeah no one ever mentions how awesomne disappearer is on GOO. love that fucking song. great video too. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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02.16.2009, 01:02 PM	#47
greedrex invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: in yr fotobukit Posts: 6,588	excellent LP with just a couple of downers (Cremebrulée, they should have put Generic instead, but that's history). I think i can say it's my least favourite of all their regular LPs but it still rocks and the songwriting is top of the pops. pun intended. __________________ Greed Recordings bandcamp ~The Rex~, stalkin' yr shit since 2008.
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02.17.2009, 10:21 AM	#50
barnaclelapse the destroyed room Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Waverly, Virginia Posts: 577	I'll admit it isn't quite as amazing as I thought it was the first time I heard it, but this is still very much an album I like to pull out once in a while and listen to. Wish Fulfillment and Swimsuit Issue are still two of my favorites.
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02.17.2009, 10:46 AM	#52
[Sandbag] 100% Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 820	i love this album. the production is alright.. i'm not gonna say it's great but i do think it fits the songs... guitars are paired in left and right speakers... it sounds easy and powerful... i dont know if a more messy or noisy production would serve these songs. the structure in 'chapel hill' and 'sugar kane' is just genious... it starts, then goes into the verse, chorus, verse, chorus structure and then a middle part + solo that is just so fantastic and different from the rest of the song melodies that when the verse kicks in again you can't believe it's the same song... as for the other songs.. theyre all 10/10 im glad they made an album like this and im glad i can enjoy this as much as lets say nycg&f or any SYR __________________ My new facebook page for my new mainstream noise band
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02.17.2009, 10:34 PM	#55
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,991	dirty rules. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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02.17.2009, 11:54 PM	#56
samuel the end of the ugly Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Baltimore Posts: 1,175	I don't know why, but I can't get into Youth Against Fascism. Every other song, I like. As for the album as a whole, I would have enjoyed it more if they left out: Swimsuit Issue - The ending is cool. The music is cool. I just think the lyrics in the beginning are lacking. Youth Against Fascism - I just can't get into it. Nic Fit - It doesn't really add anything to the album. Purr - I love the breakdown in the middle, especially the harmonics, but I think it's a pretty boring song overall. Minus those four and add: Genetic & The Destroyed Room That would have made the album perfect for me. It's still really, really good though. __________________ samueldahle.bandcamp.com
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02.18.2009, 01:08 AM	#57
uhler invito al cielo Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 3,615	yeah their worst album. there's something about it i don't like. maybe it's the sonic youth trying to play grunge sound of it. i really like "nicfit" (mostly because i love the original) and "jc"
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02.18.2009, 09:48 AM	#58
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,991	what "grunge?" you've been brainwashed. there was no "grunge". all sonic youth was trying to do was make a very chunky sounding rock sonic record, hence the joke name of "dirty" to amke fun of the wyhole "grunge" crap. "grunge" was a fashion fad . of all the bands labeled "grunge" the only one that the connotations of that name fit is Mudhoney. every other one was more stoner rock, heavy metal, classic rock, a combination of all the above. the mudhoney rules all and dirty rules all!!!!!! __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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