How Unethical Do You Think Cloning of a Dead Dog Is? - Page 3

floatingslowly · 02.20.2008, 12:40 PM

due to shortened telomeres, "dog years" are being increased 45:1.

stop the insanity, clone cats instead.

█████████ · 02.20.2008, 12:51 PM

well i hope they mutate.
and then kill you.

o- oo-oh yes, cats are sadistic killers, it would be fun.

Rob Instigator · 02.20.2008, 12:56 PM

why would they "mutate?"

you are CLONING them

like identical twins.

█████████ · 02.20.2008, 01:00 PM

because the CLONING PROCESS is still NOT FLAWLESS,
therefore, among other things, MUTATIONS CAN OCCUR.

and it would be fun.

✌➬ · 02.20.2008, 01:00 PM

What I find disturbing is that they would want to clone someone who is dead. In other words I feel they are not going to be able to accept that it died, and it is a different animal, if we ever get to humans a different person as well. AM I making myself clear?

I have no problem with it if we are going to use it for medical purpose. Howevere, for something like this is where we are cloning someone because we used to like how they were, is rather disturbing.

Rob Instigator · 02.20.2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by █████████

because the CLONING PROCESS is still NOT FLAWLESS,
therefore, among other things, MUTATIONS CAN OCCUR.

mutations occur with regular sex procreation too, thereforre we shouydl ban all sex? come on. specious reasoning out the ying yang

Rob Instigator · 02.20.2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ✌➬

What I find disturbing is that they would want to clone someone who is dead. In other words I feel they are not going to be able to accept that it died, and it is a different animal, if we ever get to humans a different person as well. AM I making myself clear?

I have no problem with it if we are going to use it for medical purpose. Howevere, for something like this is where we are cloning someone because we used to like how they were, is rather disturbing.

people that have those issues are crazy to begin with man. people name their children after a dead first son or daughter all the time, it sucks and it is crazy but it happens.
the same goes for pets. people name their basset hound butch II like their first one. it is no big deal at all.

█████████ · 02.20.2008, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

mutations occur with regular sex procreation too, thereforre we shouydl ban all sex? come on. specious reasoning out the ying yang

sigh, i just want a mutant cat to kill some people.

Rob Instigator · 02.20.2008, 01:13 PM

ever read about tigers in India man?

floatingslowly · 02.20.2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by █████████

sigh, i just want a mutant cat to kill some people.

You must spread some DNA around before giving it to █████████ again.

girlgun · 02.20.2008, 03:55 PM

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sigh, i just want a mutant cat to kill some people.

i heard that pretty soon cats will be living in tall buildings and they'll be able to fly.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 02.20.2008, 04:02 PM

I wanna clone this dog

tesla69 · 02.20.2008, 04:08 PM

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people watch too many movies where clones are "rapidly grown"

dumb!!!!!

You're dumb! and have no imagination.

dudely, if they can create human clones why wouldn't rapid growth be right behind? Mess around with the genes andnutrition its not far off at all. and if I have to wait 10 years to bang your mother's clone, it'll be worth the wait. Yeah, if clones aren't human, then whats to stop me from fucking your mom's clone as a newly decanted infant? animal rights? not that that's my thing...

Rob Instigator · 02.20.2008, 04:10 PM

humans clones are human

dog clones are dogs

the onl;y reason people hate cloning is they think that "god" actualy picks out a "soul" and places it in each new baby. ridiculous!

speedy growth is pure fiction dude. it will never happen. maturity takes the same amount of time for birth babies as for test tube abbies as for clone babies. shit.

tesla69 · 02.21.2008, 09:28 AM

Why are clones human? I'm talking the legal definition. And who is responsible for a clone? Can you just make a clone then dump the infant on the sidewalk? You're not the parent, so why are you be legally responsible? You seem to assume its all set up but there is no precedent to cloning.

Your comment about speedy growth sounds like the people 100 years ago who said human kind would never fly, or 600 years ago when people scoffed at claims the world was round...or in the 1800's when doctors laughed when people claimed that if they just washed their hands, they'd stop disease. Oh wait I forget, only God causes disease. For cloned organ replacement to work you'll have to have speedy growth - and perhaps it will only be portions of the body, there will just be racks of thoraxes where specific genetically reciped organs are quickly grown...for clone organ replacement to be practical you'll either have to have a clone waiting for your use for 15 years or use the speedy growth technology. The US is going to purposefully fall way behind in the technology while Asia will have no qualms about experimenting. And if its banned there (doubtful, I don't think there's anything China will say no to) a million dollars will buy you a nice residency in certain African corruptocracies (see Bush touring Africa to get some tips).

BUt once clones are developed, expect major worldwide population reduction. The elites won't need a breeding working class anymore, they can decant their own slave pool of workers.

I guess my predictions come down to whether or not clones have humans rights and I assert they don't no more than AIs do.

█████████ · 02.21.2008, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by girlgun

i heard that pretty soon cats will be living in tall buildings and they'll be able to fly.

mm. titiez.

Rob Instigator · 02.21.2008, 09:57 AM

cloned body parts are NOT the same as a human clone.

a human clone is as much a human as a twin

it ain;t no thang!

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 02.22.2008, 12:31 AM

These small gray ethical issues take steam away from the important issues: poverty, healthcare, hunger, war, energy, et cetera.

floatingslowly · 02.22.2008, 09:40 AM

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a human clone is as much a human as a twin

CLONES LACK SOULS.

(obvious troll attempt by floatingslowly imo)

Rob Instigator · 02.22.2008, 09:53 AM

souls lack souls!

02.20.2008, 12:40 PM	#41
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█████████ expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,736	because the CLONING PROCESS is still NOT FLAWLESS, therefore, among other things, MUTATIONS CAN OCCUR. and it would be fun.
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✌➬ invito al cielo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: ιλ Posts: 5,754	What I find disturbing is that they would want to clone someone who is dead. In other words I feel they are not going to be able to accept that it died, and it is a different animal, if we ever get to humans a different person as well. AM I making myself clear? I have no problem with it if we are going to use it for medical purpose. Howevere, for something like this is where we are cloning someone because we used to like how they were, is rather disturbing. __________________ We Kill Homosexuals!!!
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SpectralJulianIsNotDead invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,409	I wanna clone this dog
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02.20.2008, 04:10 PM	#54
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,991	humans clones are human dog clones are dogs the onl;y reason people hate cloning is they think that "god" actualy picks out a "soul" and places it in each new baby. ridiculous! speedy growth is pure fiction dude. it will never happen. maturity takes the same amount of time for birth babies as for test tube abbies as for clone babies. shit. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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02.21.2008, 09:28 AM	#55
tesla69 Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 4,055	Why are clones human? I'm talking the legal definition. And who is responsible for a clone? Can you just make a clone then dump the infant on the sidewalk? You're not the parent, so why are you be legally responsible? You seem to assume its all set up but there is no precedent to cloning. Your comment about speedy growth sounds like the people 100 years ago who said human kind would never fly, or 600 years ago when people scoffed at claims the world was round...or in the 1800's when doctors laughed when people claimed that if they just washed their hands, they'd stop disease. Oh wait I forget, only God causes disease. For cloned organ replacement to work you'll have to have speedy growth - and perhaps it will only be portions of the body, there will just be racks of thoraxes where specific genetically reciped organs are quickly grown...for clone organ replacement to be practical you'll either have to have a clone waiting for your use for 15 years or use the speedy growth technology. The US is going to purposefully fall way behind in the technology while Asia will have no qualms about experimenting. And if its banned there (doubtful, I don't think there's anything China will say no to) a million dollars will buy you a nice residency in certain African corruptocracies (see Bush touring Africa to get some tips). BUt once clones are developed, expect major worldwide population reduction. The elites won't need a breeding working class anymore, they can decant their own slave pool of workers. I guess my predictions come down to whether or not clones have humans rights and I assert they don't no more than AIs do.
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02.21.2008, 09:57 AM	#57
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,991	cloned body parts are NOT the same as a human clone. a human clone is as much a human as a twin it ain;t no thang! __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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SpectralJulianIsNotDead invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,409	These small gray ethical issues take steam away from the important issues: poverty, healthcare, hunger, war, energy, et cetera.
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02.22.2008, 09:53 AM	#60
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,991	souls lack souls! __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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