[mangajunky]

Christians and Jews never even think of the "Graven Images" commandment unless it's someone worshiping another deity, do they?

[Cantankerous]

i think i've violated pretty much all of them

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by mangajunky

Christians and Jews never even think of the "Graven Images" commandment unless it's someone worshiping another deity, do they?

The ten commandments are NOT christian rules. they are hebraic rules, and only applied to a wandering tribe of people in a desert wasteland so as to control them and not cause mass chaos in order to help them survive their ordeal.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

The ten commandments are NOT christian rules. they are hebraic rules, and only applied to a wandering tribe of people in a desert wasteland so as to control them and not cause mass chaos in order to help them survive their ordeal.

18A certain ruler asked him, "Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?" 19"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone. 20You know the commandments: 'Do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother."
21"All these I have kept since I was a boy," he said.
22When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

[Rob Instigator]

that was jesus speaking as JEW. Remember, he was trying to reform the Hebrew faith

jesus was not a christian. How can someone be a worshipper of themselves, and not in a narcissitic manner?

[!@#$%!]

jesus was speaking as a televangelist! GIMME ALL YOUR MONEY & GO TO HEAVEN. i see...

[atsonicpark]

And for my 6000th post, all I want to say is this:


AIR RIFLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I want a necklace. Want pretty red ones, also green ones. This gives me an idea for a thread.

[Sonic Youth 37]

Some cheap beaded green thing from walmart. I've worn a bracelet like it from years now.

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I have a green bead necklace that I wear from time to time.

[o'connor]

i cannot believe no one has brought up rappers yet. i would totally rock ghostface's "versace plate" chain.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

that was jesus speaking as JEW. Remember, he was trying to reform the Hebrew faith

jesus was not a christian. How can someone be a worshipper of themselves, and not in a narcissitic manner?

jesus was speaking as jesus, and jesus was supporting the commandments, and even more. the result is christianity. why would jesus, if he is god, worship himself? only the created worship the creator, Jesus Christ is divine, remember? what I dont understand, if is people dont accept the divinity of jesus christ, why even believe in the bible at all? if Jesus is not God, then what we have preserved is nothing and the writings of no one, simply a collection of fables and anecdotes, but if Jesus Christ is the full manifestation of the Godhead, then what he speaks are the interpretations of all the old religions and philosophies.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/kn/kn106.htm

44He said to them, "This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms."
45Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. 46He told them, "This is what is written: The Christ will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, 47and repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48You are witnesses of these things

[Rob Instigator]

making the fallacious mistake of assuming that the old testament exists solely as a precursor to jesus is EXACTLY the kind of shit that irks me about christianity.

The Bible is a construct of over 100 different writings by hundreds of authors. it includes things that have nothing to do with jesus' divinity or with jesus, such s geneology, history, songs, poems.

as far as we know Jesus the man was ILLITERATE
he wrote nothing down. his foloowers and the descendants of his original followers wrote the gospels as a combination of history, lessosn, and allegory.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

making the fallacious mistake of assuming that the old testament exists solely as a precursor to jesus is EXACTLY the kind of shit that irks me about christianity.

I never made the assumption that the jewish scriptures were solely written as a precursor to Jesus Christ, after all, i only made reference to 130 old testament verses out of the thousands in the texts, so clearly there is much more to the 'old testament' then an introduction to jesus christ.

The Bible is a construct of over 100 different writings by hundreds of authors. it includes things that have nothing to do with jesus' divinity or with jesus, such s geneology, history, songs, poems.

as far as we know Jesus the man was ILLITERATE
he wrote nothing down. his foloowers and the descendants of his original followers wrote the gospels as a combination of history, lessosn, and allegory.

I never made the assumption that the jewish scriptures were solely written as a precursor to Jesus
how is jesus illiterate?
16He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom. And he stood up to read. 17The scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written:
18"The Spirit of the Lord is on me,
because he has anointed me
to preach good news to the poor.
He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners
and recovery of sight for the blind,
to release the oppressed,
19to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor."[e] 20Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him, 21and he began by saying to them, "Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing."




and further, regarding Judaism, whether or not Jesus Christ is the hebrew Messiah, it is clear that the intention of much of the jewish writings is to explain the messiah, through poetry, motiffs, allegories, songs, prayers, fables, parables, anecdotes, etc. I didn't make this up, go as a rabbi.

http://www.moshiach.com/questions/to...s_moshiach.php

and further, by the logic of 'his followers wrote it all down..', how could we even be sure he exists and so why even debate about him? if we are going to have a debate about jesus christ, it must be either as a character in a book, or as a man who actually existed in the past, I can accept either reasoning, but there must be some mutually accepted ground rules, universals. if jesus christ is a man from the past, then we must accept what we have written about him. If we do not accept what we have written, from a historical perspective, it is all nonsense because as far as jesus christ is concerned, we have no other historical evidence. The indirect evidence we have supports much of the text. From book of the Acts we find a rather accurate account of everyday life in roman palestine in the 1st century, as much of the gospels. Whether they are truth is regardless to their accuracy, so we can at least treat them the same we do historical novels, as a valuable insight to what people who were contemporary to jesus thought and how they lived.

What is the point of debating about a theoritical Jesus when we have an actual one, be it a character in a book, to examine and interpet?

[o'connor]

man this thread got all religious on our ass's huh.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by o'connor

man this thread got all religious on our ass's huh.

yikerta [excuse me]

i tried to keep it about necklaces but Jesus just kept coming up and well, he and I are rather close friends.

[o'connor]

what religion are you exactly? and who's that dapper looking ma fucka in yr signature?

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by o'connor

what religion are you exactly? and who's that dapper looking ma fucka in yr signature?

Tewahedo Ethiopian Orthodox [Christian]
Rastafari

that regal gentleman on my signature is Emperor Haile Selassie I, king of Kings of Ethiopia.

[o'connor]

so rastafari is an offshoot of christianity? if i sound dumb it's because i know nothing of religion because truthfully it bores me to no end. now that haile selassie guy i know about. one of my best friends is from jamaica and his parents named him john haileselassie brown! that kid cracks me up too, he'd take a bullet for ya.

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Religion kills.