[Lurker]

Yes

[Pookie]

Sorted.

[Lurker]

I'm glad.

[the ikara cult]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

one of the things that is shit about london is that you find yourself (or at least i find this) constantly having to find new friends because a lot of people who live in london aren't from london and so at some point tend to return to wherever it is they came from.

tis what i found when i worked on the London Eye, and Sonic Youth were playing Brixton on the Nurse tour one night and i couldnt find someone to cover me.
Transitional Londoners are spazzers.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

one of the things that is shit about london is that you find yourself (or at least i find this) constantly having to find new friends because a lot of people who live in london aren't from london and so at some point tend to return to wherever it is they came from.

You also get the problem of people not being arsed to travel from fucking Finchley to somewhere faintly central when I've travelled from the other side of the world, the useless, Londoned fuckers.

[demonrail666]

London's OK but it gets too much attention. So many people want to either praise it to the hilt, or totally slag it off. It's a bastard in lots of ways, but it keeps your interest enough to suffer its stupid rents, mammoth size, crap transport and hordes of transients. If I could find work abroad I'd leave in a heartbeat, but that's just because I'm bored with England rather than London.

I met Pam Hogg today. By the way.

[Cantankerous]

i called my friend and i'm waiting for her to get here. i told her i wanted to go on an adventure in the night around london so that's what we're going to do because i've never wandered around here at night before, only in manhattan and ireland.

what i'm really excited for though is a night time adventure through suburban america. it's been a very very long time since i've had one of those.

[MellySingsDoom]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

I met Pam Hogg today. By the way.

Is that "fashion designer who's allegedly more than just a friend of Siouxsie Sioux" Pam Hogg? Well I never, small world, innit?

[_slavo_]

Originally Posted by Pookie

Romany is one type of gypsy.

Are you sure about that? The only type of Gypsies I know are Romany (with the exception of "Olas" Gypsies, who are, basically, lighter-skinned Gypsies - a mixture of a white man and a Gypsy).

Anyway, I was puzzled when I saw "Snatch" and they had this group of people referring to as "Gypsies" or "Pikeys" - those ones living in caravans and stuff. They looked nothing like Gypsies. Actually, this is how a Romany Gypsy family looks like:

 

One thing that I like about London these days for sure is that I can get lost into it on a completely personal level, nothing to do with any type of lifestyle or anything.

I agree with demonrail666 that you never get a balance when people write or talk about it. It's a big city with all its problems etc, but it's not exactly inhabited only by monsters, unscrupulous people etc. I have never read anything that describes it with precision, probably because it's impossible to do that.

[demonrail666]

I absolutely agree about finding your own personal London, and it's for that which I love it most of all. It lends itself to a certain personal anonymity that for some makes it 'cold' but for me makes it quite liberating. I love the fact that I can share the city with people I'll likely never meet or even see.

I've always thought that the best writers on the city have been those that've managed to capture its duality of 'the crowd' and 'the individual', where you are able to find privacy not in spite of its hordes, but because of them.

I've never found that in a city like NY (a place I love, but for very different reasons). There I've found that people connect as an antidote to its bustle. In London, people seem to use that bustle to disappear into their own solitude, in a most interesting way.

For this reason, and without wanting to sound too pretentious, I've always felt that London has a very definite psychological stamp on its populace, that I've yet to find elsewhere.

[NWRA]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

I've never found that in a city like NY (a place I love, but for very different reasons). There I've found that people connect as an antidote to its bustle. In London, people seem to use that bustle to disappear into their own solitude, in a most interesting way.

I feel like that in every city (apart from Leeds now): because there is an ever-changing environment, with the noise and colour of the hordes all around you, and my brain is so occupied with processing it all - it can't manage consecutive thoughts about anything else in the present, and I go into a trance. I agree it's kind of liberating.

I'd like to see a good (and ambitous) author try to capture the 'spirit' of present-day London (in the same way that authors try to with New York), without resorting to chocolate-box stereotypes or just concentrating on the Asian communities, etc; that is unless it's already been done and I've missed it.

[Cantankerous]

okay so i have to ask

how difficult will it be for me as an american citizen to get into your country
and also if i get british citizenship can i have my american citizenship back if i want?

or is the only solution for me to marry that limey bastard?

Originally Posted by Glice

You also get the problem of people not being arsed to travel from fucking Finchley to somewhere faintly central when I've travelled from the other side of the world, the useless, Londoned fuckers.

I hear you and I'm doing that right now myself! Sorry people, if you want to live in the countyryside, please do so without trying to fool yourselves into thinking that you're tough and you live in the big city. Southgate is miles away and I have to get up for work early every day, mon-fri. I'm not travelling for over an hour to get somewhere that is nearer Reading or wherever than London. Not tonight.

[The Usher]

I've lived in london for 12 years and never heard of Southgate, I don't blame you for not going!

Nice place and everything, it's just like living outside of London. It's for wusses.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by sarramkrop

I hear you and I'm doing that right now myself! Sorry people, if you want to live in the countyryside, please do so without trying to fool yourselves into thinking that you're tough and you live in the big city. Southgate is miles away and I have to get up for work early every day, mon-fri. I'm not travelling for over an hour to get somewhere that is nearer Reading or wherever than London. Not tonight.

That's more than; my comment was aimed at the people who I ring every time I'm heading to London who know I'm coming at least a week in advance but suddenly find they can't be arsed to get on the tube for 20 minutes. It could be they hate me, but I think it's more likely that the London 'can't be arsed' disease is just so very prevalent these days.

[Rob Instigator]

travellers are NOT gypsies.



british chicks have that creamy skinned ass.

[Cantankerous]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

travellers are NOT gypsies.



british chicks have that creamy skinned ass.

irish chicks too

[Lurker]

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

okay so i have to ask

how difficult will it be for me as an american citizen to get into your country
and also if i get british citizenship can i have my american citizenship back if i want?

or is the only solution for me to marry that limey bastard?

I think it might be possible to have two citizenships as I have two. But I'm not sure everyone can. There are certain circumstances that allows me to have two. What you can't have is two nationalities.

Marry the limey bastard then divorce him. Who's the limey bastard?

EDIT or rather I have British nationality and citizenship of another country.