[radarmaker]

The problem with cutting down is that you just spend the whole time looking forward to the precious next one, which then tastes/feels all the nicer because you've waited for it.

[ni'k]

cutting down has never worked for me, always seemed like a cop out. that drawing idea is excellent. i think i will try to do something similar with gtr.

[knox]

the doctor advised this woman i know to cut down and never quit cold turkey.
because he said there could be severe side effects to just quitting.
and she did have migraines and faint.
so he gave her these pills and she cut down and a month later she quit, it has been 6 months, and she keeps preaching to me about these pills.
they must be antidepressants or something, to help with the withdrawal depression.

[Rob Instigator]

if you are a heavy smoker, the crash from lack of nicotine will definitely give you fucking MONSTER headaches, and therefore it is best to slow down for a few weeks to get your body used to lesser nicotine before going full out cold turkey.

I smoked for 10 yeatrs, quit for 4, started smoking clove cigs during my divorce, and quit those after a year. I now smoke no cigs, but enjoy 2-3 cigars a week.

the feeling of not being winded, of full lung capacity, of being able to swim for an hour without heaving, is a wonderful feeling.

[wellcharge]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

but enjoy 2-3 cigars a week.

i think replacing cigs with cigars could the trick, you'll still get nicotine but you can't smoke as much and won't inhale

[knox]

I tried to do it I was smoking cigars all the time and smelling bad.

[EVOLghost]

Originally Posted by wellcharge

just quit and don't make a big deal out of, tonnes of fat.lazy and semi-retarded morons have quit smoking, do you really want to fail at something than any old jackass can do?

greatest motivation post to quit smoking.

[wellcharge]

Originally Posted by knox

I tried to do it I was smoking cigars all the time and smelling bad.

if you smoke premium stuff you'll smell incredible and won't have money for cigarettes

[knox]

well, i dont even know what premium stuff is i was just craving.

[EVOLghost]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I quit smoking cigs cold turkey. It took 6-8 weeks before all the twitchy nerves and the pangs of want went away fully. I used any time I normally had used to smoke to instead draw. I would draw out of nervous energy and eventually would forget why I was drawing and not notice the jangly nerves anymore.
It helps if you take something up to pass the time.
the hardest are those times when you used to ritually smoke, after a meal for example, or in the car on the way home from work, or after sex.

habits are programmed into our brains by ourselves.

There is a good bit of study done that shows a ratio betwene how often you do something and how long it takes for NOT doing t to feel normal.

The ratio is between 1 to 12 and 1 to 16.
a daily habit takes 12 to 16 days of not doing it to "break" the need/desire.
a weekly habit takes 12-16 weeks to break. something like that
I have talked to many ex smokers and they all say that if you can get through 3 weeks without a cig, you are 3/4 of the way to quitting for good.

!!!!!!


yeah I heard it's harder to quit when you have a routine in. My routine is very simple when it comes to cigs. I mainly smoke after a bowl/blunt/joint or when I'm getti'n drunk or some shiz...

Other than that...I can go without smoking for a while.

[floatingslowly]

Originally Posted by wellcharge

i can quit, i don't want to, but i'd imagine being a week with no cig i'm not physically addicted

I was wrong when I assumed that you were a facist non-smoker.

it turns out that yr just stupid.

cue: pity

[Inhuman]

Three cheers for virtual cock measuring sessions. No more douche-callings y'all. Peace and love

 

[floatingslowly]

pointing out poor and circuitous logic has nothing to do with the (gigantic) size of my cock.

[tesla69]

Originally Posted by akprodr

Of course, it IS a choice. When you want a smoke (or fix or hit or whatever), you have a choice--give in and do it or stand firm and resist. It comes down to willpower--can you resist what your body/mind is telling you it wants.

its easy to say that, but when EVERY FUCKING CELL IN YOUR BODY IS SCREAMING and you know the anxiety could so easily be calmed by just a stupid smoke...sometimes our own biochemistry is our enemy.

I wish I knew more about dopamine issues. I do know the electric cigarette provides a nicotine release with flavor - who knows if it is really safe - but at least you aren't bringing all that carbon and chemicals and holding it in your lungs.

[Inhuman]

Well nobody's a douche, it's just a misunderstanding of logic.

Wellcharge - I think what floatingslowly means is that since YOU never quit yourself you don't personally know how difficult it is for n'ik to quit. Every brain is different... and many people would continue if they had a cigarette shoved down their throat. For example, the first time I did a shotgun blast with a buddy, the joint escaped my teeth, and blew straight down his throat and got stuck. He had to cough it out and apparently it was nasty. He's probably the biggest pot smoker / dealer I know now

[akprodr]

Originally Posted by knox

they must be antidepressants or something, to help with the withdrawal depression.

Yeah, I think Zyban is a help-quit-smoking pill. It is also an anti-depressant under another name. Wellbutrin?

[akprodr]

Originally Posted by tesla69

its easy to say that, but when EVERY FUCKING CELL IN YOUR BODY IS SCREAMING and you know the anxiety could so easily be calmed by just a stupid smoke...sometimes our own biochemistry is our enemy.

I think you just restated what I said. You want another word in place of choice? How about battle? You are at war with yourself. But the only person that is going to keep you from doing _x_ is you. It is ultimately your choice to do _x_ or _y_.

Luckily, I've never been strongly addicted. Smoked a good deal of cigarettes this summer. Was fairly hooked on pot a while back Pot was somewhat easier since I need to really go out of my way to get it while you can get cigs just about anywhere. But yeah, over the summer, I said "This is my last pack" about 50 times.

[wellcharge]

Originally Posted by Inhuman

Well nobody's a douche, it's just a misunderstanding of logic.

Wellcharge - I think what floatingslowly means is that since YOU never quit yourself you don't personally know how difficult it is for n'ik to quit.

i have quit before but that's not what he means anyways, he already said what he meant: I was wrong when I assumed that you were a facist non-smoker. it turns out that yr just stupid.

[EVOLghost]

ni'k just switch to pot.

[ni'k]

i had some very bad cannabis psychosis ha so i'm off it for good. anyway i'm going to go off the cigs tonight, wish me luck motherfucks, if i get stressed out and crave i will instead take out my frustration by being a dick on this message board! yay! so i am launching this new abstinence with some fresh ferraro jams and green tea. i am going to use the ferraro jams to meditate on the damaged chakra channels that access zebra light crystals levitating in the boner windmill angels of spherical peacock anal bead neptune gem yoga concioussness so i can reach enlightenment as to the root cause of my addiction and how i can be cured.