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Old 04.23.2010, 04:29 PM   #41
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I find South Park's humour to be wanting.
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Old 04.23.2010, 04:42 PM   #42
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I never watch SP on tv but I loved the movie.
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Old 04.23.2010, 04:47 PM   #43
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The Simpsons season 1 - 10 is the best thing to ever be on television, I don't care if any of you think otherwise!

South Park is okay, I don't find it very funny. If I had to choose between South Park and say Family Guy though then I think it's obvious what I would watch though.
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Old 04.23.2010, 04:48 PM   #44
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Uh Rob, do you hate all religions equally?
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Old 04.23.2010, 06:59 PM   #45
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The belief in a higher power makes you weak and far too dependent on luck. Instead of making it's slaves believe in the world for exactly how it's presented, religion sugarcoats life with fairies and wizards, and puts a cherry on top.

Talk about escapism. It's a shame that the belief in a higher power isn't as frowned upon as drugs are in our modern culture.
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Old 04.23.2010, 07:08 PM   #46
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the constitution and analog instruments are not sacred. they are revered by me, but sacred means untouchable and implies infallibility. the moment anyone decrees that this or that is "sacred" they are exerting control over the thoughts and actions of those who do not view it as sacred or sacred yet.

Sacred is a contingency: what is held sacred by one isn't by another. The distinction between reverence and sanctity strikes me as being the difference between inside and outside that contingency. 'Infallibility' belongs to the category of the divine (outside of your own category) - I suspect you mean immovable. Again though, something is sacred only from within the context that defines it as such; I would maintain that individual interpretation of the sanctity of the constitution is immaterial to its absolute centrality to US politics. Similarly, I can slag off Christ and still refer to myself as a Catholic - this does nothing to remove the central orientation of Christianity towards Christ, and thus his sanctity. The opposite applies for the constitution to American politics. The dissimilarities in order fail to impinge upon the structure of 'sanctity', which (again) need only refer to the central edicts of a system.
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Old 04.23.2010, 07:09 PM   #47
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On another tip, Simpsons never stopped being good. It just stopped being hilarious and started being frighteningly sharp.
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Old 04.23.2010, 07:35 PM   #48
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I haven't liked South Park in many, many years. Probably since it started taking them a week to do an episode, so they kept focusing on "current events". South Park always starts with a cool idea, then beats it to death by the end. The biggest thing about the show is that NONE of the characters are appealing, even in an "unlikeable" way. Cartman is annoying, Kyle and Stan are bitches, is Kenny even still on the show? He wasn't bad, hah. Chef is gone. Etc. Towlie was probably the best character, and only because he's voiced by one of the PFFR dudes!

Simpsons isn't as funny as it used to be, but it's got its moments still. The new episodes are actually quite intelligently written and brilliant, in a COMPLETELY different way. I miss the jaw-droppingly hilarious stuff, but it's still a good show.

Family Guy sucked, and has always sucked, but I kinda dig it now, because it KNOWS it sucks. So, they purposely test the audience and do stupid shit (10 minute chicken fights, 6 minutes of Conway Twitty) to alienate people. I can respect that!!

Really, the most consistently LONG-RUNNING great "cartoon" to ever air on television was King of the Hill.

Now, if you want to talk about Rocko, Doug, Home Movies, 12 Oz. Mouse, Ren and Stimpy (first 3 seasons), etc., etc., etc.... now we're talking QUALITY.
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Old 04.23.2010, 08:22 PM   #49
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The biggest thing about the show is that NONE of the characters are appealing, even in an "unlikeable" way. Cartman is annoying, Kyle and Stan are bitches, is Kenny even still on the show? He wasn't bad, hah. Chef is gone. Etc. Towlie was probably the best character, and only because he's voiced by one of the PFFR dudes!

Butters?
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Old 04.23.2010, 08:38 PM   #50
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i love south park, but it's getting harder and harder to say i'm a fan with every passing season. i'm really just sick of their "hey, let's take a current event, make one joke about it that may or may not be funny for more than two minutes, and stretch it out for an entire episode!" format. still, seasons 1-8 are untouchable, seasons 9-11 are kinda sketchy with some gems, season 12 kinda sucks, and season 13 almost completely sucks. this season has been watchable so far, though i wouldn't say any of the episodes have been particularly good. i'm just glad they're calling it quits after next season.
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Old 04.23.2010, 08:49 PM   #51
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Predictably, i was delighted to hear about them pissing off the fuckwits again, and equally as predictably im just as pissed to know that threats of violence are enough to stop people from publishing something that upsets a certain sect of people.
I love that they used the Teddy Bear thing from Saudi Arabia a couple of years ago to make the point as well

The only predictable thing im glad about is we all agree Family Guy is a parcel of Aids delivered introvenously to your bollocks whenever you turn on the TV
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Old 04.23.2010, 09:29 PM   #52
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This season is pretty good so far. They have had some stinkers in the later seasons, but so far this one has been golden. I don't have cable so I can't watch the episodes when they air...but http://www.southparkstudios.com/ is a life saver.

Recent episodes like the KFC Medical Marijuana and Facebook episodes were outstanding. This new one sounds like it's great too.

Matt and Trey have naturally matured past dick and fart jokes, and new material. But they have been even more experimental with testing their audience than Family Guy would ever dare to.

Consider episodes like "Pip" which is Great Expectations retold in 20 min without any other South Park characters, other than "Pip". There are no jokes throughout the entire episode, until the very end where cyborg monkeys came and destroy everything.

Or how about the cliffhanger season finale where you're about to find out who Cartman's father is. First episode of the next season was a Terrance and Phillip mini movie.

The thing is though. This seriously pissed off the show's fans, and the ratings for those episodes were lower than ever.

Episodes like "Simpsons Did It" where Butters is Professor Chaos, and tries to think of the most menacing thing he can do to destroy South Park. The only problem is, everything he thinks of - The Simpsons had already done first. This was influenced by Trey, and Matt comioing up with ideas, and later finding out that The Simpsons had already beat them to it (such as the episode where Bart steals the head off of the Springfield monument).

Consistently writing fresh material within the realms of your imaginary world is hard to do. Especially when said work is as infamous as South Park. For 2 guys to have maintained all of the writing, and most voices (other than Chef, and the females) for 14 years is astounding. Especially when the material pushes controversial censorship boundaries as much as South Park has.

I'm just heavily impressed that it isn't far more stale than it is by now. The political topics certainly do help, but so do the more recent episodes focusing on the adults of the town. But I'm gonna shut up now...
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Old 04.23.2010, 10:32 PM   #53
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Old 04.23.2010, 11:41 PM   #54
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South park was a show, to me, that was subpar at it's start. Basic fart jokes. That developed and grew over the years into something that's still pretty typical, BUT, has it's shining reflective moments. It's supposed to show how we're all just stupid humans and to not take ourselves too seriously.
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Old 04.24.2010, 12:05 AM   #55
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yet sometimes people take south park far too seriously



like kanye


and these irate muslims
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Old 04.24.2010, 03:54 AM   #56
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What kind of person frowns upon fart jokes?
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Old 04.24.2010, 05:08 AM   #57
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They already did show Mohammed in the episode "Super Best Friends" so I don't see why they're not doing that now. Anyways I love South Park though the last seasons are kinda hit or miss. But what else can you expect when they have 7 days to write and animate an entire episode?

EDIT: Appereantly you can't stream the super best friends episode anymore. Pfff pussies.
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Old 04.24.2010, 05:14 AM   #58
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surely this kinda shit works both ways... if the western world are disrespecting muslims and their beliefs then surely the muslim world disrespects the western worlds beliefs...fucking stupid!

as for south park....possibly one of the only long running series that gets better and better and more fucked up with age.... so good its hurts funny!
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