09.21.2010, 04:32 AM | #41 | |
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He really, really is. Winter 1972, and all of the other solo stuff I've heard by him, is some of the most powerful and emotionally searing music that I've heard.
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09.21.2010, 04:50 AM | #42 |
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Same here. WINTER 1972 is probably my favorite, along with JAZZ BED. I just can't believe this guy... he manages to make his saxophone squeal for 45 minutes straight, and it's somehow amongst the most powerful and interesting music I've ever heard. He never hits a wrong note!
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09.21.2010, 05:36 AM | #43 |
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I would advise people who think free jazz is aimless horn honking made by self important charlatans (which it is at its worst!) to check out some of the groups who straddle the border between the free and straight worlds (by straight I mean music that retains elements of traditional jazz such as heads, songs, solos, occasional standards etc. rather than any sense of "seriousness"). The ICP Orchestra, Art Ensemble of Chicago, Vandermark 5, NRG Ensemble etc. are good places to start. If you can get into that then you might want to come back to the freely improvised stuff later (which I know isn't what this thread was intended to be about, but I think that is what a lot of people take free jazz to mean).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyRjG...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=perVF...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUy11...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy2PtUh8Djo Best (perhaps) concert I've ever been to:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeNtD...eature=related That's my head obnoxiously swinging back and forth in front of Han's snare drum! |
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09.21.2010, 07:03 AM | #44 | |
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Exactly! 'Guitar people' who say that someone like Vai, or some other technically obsessed shredder, is the successor to Hendrix are totally missing the point. Hendrix wasn't a genius because he could shred really well, but because he would just fly off and follow his own 'free' ideas in the context of rock songs, and do it beautifully. Guitarists in the free jazz cannon, like say one of my all time favourites, Sonny Sharrock (or SY for that matter), capture a lot more of what I like about Hendrix than any 'shredder' ever will...
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09.21.2010, 07:12 AM | #45 | |
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Ditto, ditto... to quote a friend: "jazz like hendrix".
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09.21.2010, 07:16 AM | #46 |
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Just want to say that the greatest guitarist that I've ever heard is Lenny Breu, who is a jazz guitarist. I don't really listen to him very often (he's great, but not my favorite), but if anyone is curious about what it sounds like for a guy to have 20 fingers, check him out.
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09.21.2010, 07:55 AM | #47 | |
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I'm at work and don't have time to google for links, i'm sure you'll be able to find some yourself though try these: Alan Silva's Celestrial Communication Orchestra - Luna Surface Sonny Sharrock - Black Woman (good place to start for rock fans maybe) John Coltrane - Ascension, The Olatunji Concert, Interstellar Space Archie Shepp - Blase Pharoah Sanders - Karma, Black Unity The Art Ensemble of Chicago - Les Stances A Sophie, People in Sorrow Luther Thomas Human Arts Ensemble - Funky Donkey Joe McPhee - Nation Time Sun Ra - Atlantis, Space Is The Place |
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09.21.2010, 08:31 AM | #48 |
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today is the official free jazz day on syg.
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09.21.2010, 11:01 AM | #49 |
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here is nels cline (gtr) playing with gregg bendian (dr) doing john coltrane's interstellar space. real real good top shelf free jazz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxI_VBXIciw for those that dont know nels he straddles the rock and jazz worlds. played with mike watt, thurston etc.. and now wilco of all bands!?! for the rock side and tons of heavy jazz folks as well. when ornette first came to new york in 59 or 60 maybe one of his first big concerts was advertised as "Free Jazz" lots of folks came and then they found out they had to actually pay and then quickly left. |
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09.21.2010, 11:11 AM | #50 |
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Nels is a prime example of what I was talking about earlier...
Dude knows what the fuck he's doing, and therefor can take leaps into the unknown w/ plenty of tools under his belt to work with. Getting noisy without a flashlight is like handing a guitar to a two year old...it might be "cute", but in most cases won't go much further than that. Love Nels.
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Thanks for the examples. I enjoyed the Sun Ra song. The Patty Watters piece was a little harder to "dig" but definitely had experimental elements that were cool. |
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09.21.2010, 12:25 PM | #52 |
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I'm not so sure you're going to enjoy much of the stuff that's been posted unless you start getting rid of the ''it's experimental/avant'' mindset.
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09.21.2010, 12:25 PM | #53 | |
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Thanks for sharing. But I can honestly say that type of stuff does nothing for me. Not trying to be offensive... to each his own. |
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09.21.2010, 12:33 PM | #54 | |
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hat and bread, those were all exquisite links! Loved em' all. I really like your taste. Guide me further if you have the time. |
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09.21.2010, 12:42 PM | #55 | |
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Good stuff. Thanks for sharing. I need to buy some records. |
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09.21.2010, 12:44 PM | #56 | |
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hey there! how's life? this link is awesome, I will definitely search for more by Bennink
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09.21.2010, 01:16 PM | #57 |
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Ornette Coleman in Germany 1978
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsT5J6TJIkk Cecil taylor - Free Improvisation # 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EstPgi4eMe4 Albert Ayler - Ghosts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtiSA2RKDzc
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09.21.2010, 03:03 PM | #58 |
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Don Cherry / James Blood Ulmer / Rashied Ali in Sweden 1978
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S9eGFOcBEY one of my favorite youtube clips
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09.21.2010, 06:12 PM | #59 | |
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All the stuff you suggested is great, but those 3 are good candidates for THE 3 free records that I'd recommend to people first. Essential. Good picks. Also: [quote=Toilet & Bowels]Archie Shepp - Blase[/qoute] Just got this from a friend on vinyl, and it's amazing. Especially the title track.
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really by far and away the best way to get into free jazz is to go and see it live, i don't know where you live hevusa but if you're really interested in getting your head around this stuff keep an eye out for when some good free jazz musicians are coming to your area.
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