[atari 2600]

I'm the other person that voted for Ireland.

But keep that Killian's Irish Red the hell away from me.

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Ireland...Guinness Stout, people!
England...Bass Ale, bretheren!

These are your champions!

[Glice]

Ireland makes Guiness, we can't forget that. But they are also pretty bloody awful at lagers and ales. I'll accept that they're cider is passable, but I don't think they should be exalted for a mere one drink, no matter how wonderful it is... and in spite of the cliche, Guiness tastes ten-fold better over there, which sort of invalidates drinking it here.

[jon boy]

burger king part own guiness you know. true fact.

[gmku]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

heineken? tsing tao?

until you guys start delving into the belgian ales you really don't know...

ask gmku if you don't believe me

So true. Give me a Belgium dubbel or tripel over any other European (or American) beer any day!

[porkmarras]

Depends.There is a really nice irish pub in Covent Garden that serves Guinness that is not second to the one that i tasted in Ireland.And that's only one.

[cryptowonderdruginvogue]

mexicoooo

[!@#$%!]

hee heee-- killian's irish red-- that's a phony product-- i used to sell it when i work on a pizzeria-- it's piss-- made by coors i think

about guinness, it's a nice beer, no doubt, but it does not rule supreme

i'd rather have a double chocolate stout.

 

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however, the lovely skunky aromas of this:

 

leave everything else in the dust?

why?

a) it's made by monks

b) monks can't fuck

c) they need to get off with something else, and that is beer

[atari 2600]

Logic is such a beautiful thing.

Blue Moon Belgian White is made by Coors too.

It's a slap in the face to Belgian ales.

Old story, but a friend coming back from the first Gulf War smuggled in a good deal of some Sympaticor Dopplebock and EKU 28 from Germany on his way back home.
Is there a beer stronger than EKU 28? I really don't think so.

[!@#$%!]

that blue moon? oh i thought it was made in texas
it's not that bad, but it doesn't compare

i have no clue about EKU28 ... first time i hear about it. another one for the wish list.

[porkmarras]

I'm a little confused.When a proper ale drinker asks for beer he/she doesn't mean lager but ale or dark beers.I'm sure sonicl meant that when he started the poll,hopefully.

[gmku]

I do like my doppelbocks, too, though. And my mai bocks. My my, bocks!

But yeah, there is nothing like the aroma or taste of Belgium beer!

Is it lunchtime yet? I think I'm drinking my meal today!

[gmku]

Originally Posted by porkmarras

I'm a little confused.When a proper ale drinker asks for beer he/she doesn't mean lager but ale or dark beers.I'm sure sonicl meant that when he started the poll,hopefully.

Beer means lager and ale. And there are good and bad lagers just as there are good and bad ales. Pilsners, for example, the most common beer in Germany and Czech-land and the USA, are lagers. Most beers in England, however, such as bitters and stouts and pales, are ale. A beer drinker just has to know what he/she is ordering.

[porkmarras]

Originally Posted by gmku

Beer means lager and ale.

A drinker in England will ask beer but not mean lager,trust me.Unless,obviously,we're talking about generic pubs that have mainly lagers on tap.

[gmku]

Originally Posted by porkmarras

A drinker in England will ask beer but not mean lager,trust me.Unless,obviously,we're talking about generic pubs that have mainly lagers on tap.

I know. But in general, both ales and lagers are beer. The differentiation has to do with how they're fermented (in the brewing process).

In the case where there's more than one kind of "beer" on tap--meaning, ales and lagers--wouldn't the UK beer drinker specify: I want a pint of bitter... or stout... or pale... or lager... etc?

[porkmarras]

Originally Posted by gmku

Beer means lager and ale. And there are good and bad lagers just as there are good and bad ales. Pilsners, for example, the most common beer in Germany and Czech-land and the USA, are lagers. Most beers in England, however, such as bitters and stouts and pales, are ale. A beer drinker just has to know what he/she is ordering.

And as an ex bartender i can tell you that depending on age an ale-drinker makes the mental distinction between lager and beer.

[Пятхъдесят Шест]

Pork, I bet you were an ace bartender! I can just imagine.

[porkmarras]

Originally Posted by gmku

I know. But in general, both ales and lagers are beer. The differentiation has to do with how they're fermented.

In the case where there's more than one kind of "beer" on tap--meaning, ales and lagers--wouldn't the UK beer drinker specify: I want a pint of bitter... or stout... or pale... or lager... etc?

That depends on how quick the bartender is at figuring out what someone wants.It comes with experience.

[gmku]

Originally Posted by porkmarras

And as an ex bartender i can tell you that depending on age an ale-drinker makes the mental distinction between lager and beer.

Of course! Every beer drinker--and I would say, regardless of age--who knows anything about beer does! So what are you saying?

[Glice]

Originally Posted by porkmarras

And as an ex bartender i can tell you that depending on age an ale-drinker makes the mental distinction between lager and beer.

He's right. As an ale-drinker, I call ale beer and consider lager beneath me. I also have an enormous beard and terrible personal hygeine. I know full well that they're all beers, but lager makes me ill and angry, hence the mental distinction.

[gmku]

Originally Posted by porkmarras

That depends on how quick the bartender is at figuring out what someone wants.It comes with experience.

I see. So if I went in and asked you for a "beer" and you gave me a bitter but what I really wanted was a doppelbock, you'd figure it out after the first few times I kept saying, "No, not THIS shit. I want a BEER, dammit. Don't you get it. A BEER!"