favorite guitarists - Page 3

toxic johnny · 04.12.2006, 11:53 AM

I see what you mean...
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I find, what most people would term, 'non-guitarists' more interesting than 'guitarists'.

Savage Clone · 04.12.2006, 11:59 AM

I am not speaking this way because of gender; I speak this way because I see both of these musicians as "guitar as sound source" players rather than "guitarists."

I have seen Christina do one set that was very good.

hat and beard · 04.12.2006, 01:27 PM

jimi hendrix was my first guitar hero and is still #1
some others...
john fahey
sonny sharrock
dude from the sun city girls whose name i always confuse with his brothers, but whose last name is most certainly bishop
rudolph grey (blue humans)
kawabata makoto (acid mothers temple)
tony iommi (black saabbbbath)
thurston mooore
blind willie johnson
elizabeth cotton
d boon (minutemen)

are steve vai, yngweieieieiei malmmomomstine, eric johnson etc actually real musicians? i mean does anybody really listen to their music. i always assumed they were just inventions of the guitar industry to help sell overpriced "signature series" crap. kind of like everyone's favorite homeshopping network star, esteban, only slightly more ridiculous.

Savage Clone · 04.12.2006, 01:33 PM

Sir Richard Bishop.
He is incredible.
Malmsteen and Vai are what I like to call "guitar teacher/guitar magazine" musicians.
No one else cares.

Everyneurotic · 04.12.2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone

I like seeing women play guitar too, but I would rather watch the girl from Boris any day over Christina or Elisa. She is more of a "guitarist," rather than someone holding a guitar as a means to an end.

elisa is no better guitarist than jewel or sheryl crow. just different genres

vai and malmsteen are boring and just in it for the glory, for them it's like a race or a competition, not about music. i read an interview with vai once that said something like if you want to play simple music with meaning and taste then you are a half assed comformist who doesn't deserve to be called a guitar player.

there are more tasteful shredders-like guitarists

Savage Clone · 04.12.2006, 02:34 PM

Just because Elisa uses a guitar doesn't make her a "guitarist," and I mean that as no slam on her music. It is a sound source at that point; the fact that the object is technically a guitar is immaterial.
That's all I was trying to say; I really didn't mean to come off as a jerk, and apologies if I did.

trance feeeedback · 04.12.2006, 02:41 PM

Thurston and Lee
Sonic Boom and Jason spaceman(spacemen 3)
Taka and Yoda(mono)
keiji haino
Kevin Shields(MBV)
Sonny Sharrock
Takeshi Mizutani(Les Rallizes Denudes)
Brij Bhushan Kabra
John Fahey
Robbie Basho(a seriously underrated guitar player)
Vini Riely(another very underrated guitar player)

Savage Clone · 04.12.2006, 02:45 PM

Nice Mizutani avatar!

I would put him on my list of faves too.
Basho was a great guitarist; I have a tough time with his voice though.
I also love:
Rinji Fukuoka
Paul Metzger
Sandy Bull
Bert Jansch
Munehiro Narita
Randy Holden

trance feeeedback · 04.12.2006, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Nice Mizutani avatar!

I would put him on my list of faves too.
Basho was a great guitarist; I have a tough time with his voice though.

thanks, I am really obsessed with Les Rallizes Denudes right now.
Yeah, everybody seems to have that problem with Basho's voice.

Nice womb avatar, by the way!

Hip Priest · 04.12.2006, 04:54 PM

Thurston Moore and William Reid (JAMC).

LifeDistortion · 04.12.2006, 05:02 PM

Jim Martin of Faith No More

Is that guy in any bands now?

Signpost · 04.12.2006, 05:09 PM

Keith Rowe
Derek Bailey
Asa Osbourne
Tom Morello
Jimmy Page
John & Michael Gibbons

TheDom · 04.12.2006, 05:10 PM

I don't see what is so great about Derek Bailey.. I just don't..

Everyneurotic · 04.12.2006, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDom

I don't see what is so great about Derek Bailey.. I just don't..

i really don't know but i love it!!

themawt71 · 04.12.2006, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LifeDistortion

Jim Martin of Faith No More

Is that guy in any bands now?

i heard he was a pumpkin farmer. take it for what its worth

Glice · 04.12.2006, 08:01 PM

Malmsteen, Yngwie is a beyond talented guitarist. If you appreciate music on a strictly technical level, you must appreciate him. The music is still shit, but I enjoy it on that level, and that level alone.

Props to whoever mentioned chappy from Les Rallizes Denudes. Who are excellent. It's all effects over talent, but there's nothing wrong with that.

Savage Clone · 04.12.2006, 08:03 PM

Yngwie midi files for the ultimate experience:

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip...221/index.html

Les Rallizes Denudes have talent. The word "talent" really has nothing to do (in my mind at least) with "technical proficiency," which is what you are talking about. Rallizes make killer music and they pushed the envelope far and wide and are as influentail as the Velvet Underground when it comes to Japanese psych, so to say they have "no talent" is inaccurate. They are talented because they make good music. I would also argue that they have less technical ability than average, but that's nitpicking since we are obviously both big fans.

Yngwie drives me nuts.

Toilet & Bowels · 04.12.2006, 08:08 PM

there are lots of people i could name, but keiji haino really is my absolute favourite.

soapbars · 04.12.2006, 08:12 PM

kevin shields
lee ranaldo
bernard butler
joey santiago
aaron north

Sheriff Rhys Chatham · 04.12.2006, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDom

I don't see what is so great about Derek Bailey.. I just don't..

hes like no one else.

04.12.2006, 11:53 AM	#41
toxic johnny expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London Posts: 1,657	I see what you mean... I guess what I'm trying to say is that I find, what most people would term, 'non-guitarists' more interesting than 'guitarists'. __________________ Built Toxic J Tough Optic Disc
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04.12.2006, 11:59 AM	#42
Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,290	I am not speaking this way because of gender; I speak this way because I see both of these musicians as "guitar as sound source" players rather than "guitarists." I have seen Christina do one set that was very good.
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04.12.2006, 01:27 PM	#43
hat and beard stalker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Shizuoka Prefecture, Japan Posts: 457	jimi hendrix was my first guitar hero and is still #1 some others... john fahey sonny sharrock dude from the sun city girls whose name i always confuse with his brothers, but whose last name is most certainly bishop rudolph grey (blue humans) kawabata makoto (acid mothers temple) tony iommi (black saabbbbath) thurston mooore blind willie johnson elizabeth cotton d boon (minutemen) are steve vai, yngweieieieiei malmmomomstine, eric johnson etc actually real musicians? i mean does anybody really listen to their music. i always assumed they were just inventions of the guitar industry to help sell overpriced "signature series" crap. kind of like everyone's favorite homeshopping network star, esteban, only slightly more ridiculous.
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04.12.2006, 01:33 PM	#44
Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,290	Sir Richard Bishop. He is incredible. Malmsteen and Vai are what I like to call "guitar teacher/guitar magazine" musicians. No one else cares.
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04.12.2006, 02:34 PM	#46
Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,290	Just because Elisa uses a guitar doesn't make her a "guitarist," and I mean that as no slam on her music. It is a sound source at that point; the fact that the object is technically a guitar is immaterial. That's all I was trying to say; I really didn't mean to come off as a jerk, and apologies if I did.
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trance feeeedback children of satan Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sun Ra's place on Saturn Posts: 359	Thurston and Lee Sonic Boom and Jason spaceman(spacemen 3) Taka and Yoda(mono) keiji haino Kevin Shields(MBV) Sonny Sharrock Takeshi Mizutani(Les Rallizes Denudes) Brij Bhushan Kabra John Fahey Robbie Basho(a seriously underrated guitar player) Vini Riely(another very underrated guitar player) __________________ "If by noise you mean uncomfortable sound, then pop music is noise to me."-Masami Akita "sound is god"-Ravi Shankar. FREE TIBET!
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04.12.2006, 02:45 PM	#48
Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,290	Nice Mizutani avatar! I would put him on my list of faves too. Basho was a great guitarist; I have a tough time with his voice though. I also love: Rinji Fukuoka Paul Metzger Sandy Bull Bert Jansch Munehiro Narita Randy Holden
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LifeDistortion expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CA Posts: 2,457	Jim Martin of Faith No More Is that guy in any bands now?
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04.12.2006, 05:10 PM	#53
TheDom expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nashville. Posts: 1,924	I don't see what is so great about Derek Bailey.. I just don't..
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04.12.2006, 08:03 PM	#57
Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,290	Yngwie midi files for the ultimate experience: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip...221/index.html Les Rallizes Denudes have talent. The word "talent" really has nothing to do (in my mind at least) with "technical proficiency," which is what you are talking about. Rallizes make killer music and they pushed the envelope far and wide and are as influentail as the Velvet Underground when it comes to Japanese psych, so to say they have "no talent" is inaccurate. They are talented because they make good music. I would also argue that they have less technical ability than average, but that's nitpicking since we are obviously both big fans. Yngwie drives me nuts.
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Toilet & Bowels invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northern Europe Posts: 12,282	there are lots of people i could name, but keiji haino really is my absolute favourite.
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