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Old 03.22.2019, 06:25 AM   #6221
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warren’s child care proposal (first i hear of it)

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“And while this isn’t a horse-race column — I’m not arguing that Warren necessarily will or even should be the Democratic presidential nominee — the field needs more policy ideas like this: medium-size, medium-priced proposals that could deliver major benefits without requiring a political miracle.”
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Old 03.22.2019, 09:08 AM   #6222
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Old 03.22.2019, 09:28 AM   #6223
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BECAUSE HE/SHE/THEY WANTS TO BE PRIME MINISTER
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To win an election so it can actually change things rather than complain about them.
Yeeeah you guys ignored the rest of my post there didn't ya. It's not worth losing the newfound support in the left and the youth vote to gain some disenfranchised Tory voters. How many of them do you honestly think there are? Tory to Labour voters and vice versa aren't deciding factors in elections, the evidence shows that turnout is more important. The vast majority of people pick a side and stick to it!! The idea of changing strategy to entice the other side leads to the same centrist milieu where both major parties become similar and don't really stand for anything which has been the state of Western politics for the past several decades. Why would you want that?? That's not changing anything!!
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Old 03.22.2019, 10:17 AM   #6224
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Yeeeah you guys ignored the rest of my post there didn't ya. It's not worth losing the newfound support in the left and the youth vote to gain some disenfranchised Tory voters. How many of them do you honestly think there are? Tory to Labour voters and vice versa aren't deciding factors in elections, the evidence shows that turnout is more important. The vast majority of people pick a side and stick to it!! The idea of changing strategy to entice the other side leads to the same centrist milieu where both major parties become similar and don't really stand for anything which has been the state of Western politics for the past several decades. Why would you want that?? That's not changing anything!!
is your country so aligned by parties?

here in the US the independent block is highly important, about 30%

there have been reagan democrats, obama and hillary (clinton) republicans, trump democrats, etc.

see, here: another article! xD

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-trump/499577/

with big tent parties like we have, voters don’t fit into neat little boxes. they care about issues and weigh them against each other: environment, labor, trade, taxes and fiscal policy, abortion & culture wars, etc.... then they vote.

not a lot of people tow party lines as a matter of conviction. this is why you’ll also see splinter parties like greens and libertarians siphoning off the edges of repukes and democrats even if they can’t win.

also voters will often vote cross-party for executive and legislative. this is how we regularly end with a president on one side and congress on the other. ‘merica enjoys a divided government,

and yes, also often happens that politicians elected or not will switch parties.

another article! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Part..._United_States (some of the most recent you might have read about in the news)

i reliably support a democratic ballot all the way, but if bernie ends up taking the nomination i’ll ditch the fucker. local elections/ballot issues are another matter, but unproven modern monetary policy fictions are too fucking risky, and his prescriptions too authoritarian and statist for my taste, the 30% independent voters, blue dog democrats, the suburban middle class, and many others.
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Old 03.22.2019, 10:22 AM   #6225
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probably exceeded free quota. try clearing your browser cookies or click on a different device and you should have fresh access.

if not i can post some short summaries later.
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Old 03.22.2019, 10:27 AM   #6226
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It's so sad that the only reason you wouldn't support the dem nomination is if its Sanders lol
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Old 03.22.2019, 10:28 AM   #6227
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Just got back from the centrist rally. Amazing turnout. Thousands of people holding hands and chanting “Better things aren’t possible”
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Old 03.22.2019, 10:35 AM   #6228
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It's so sad that the only reason you wouldn't support the dem nomination is if its Sanders lol
what’s so sad is to see you arguing things like suchfriends, from a place of cognitive closure

if something doesn’t fit your point of view you dismiss or ignore it or mock it

who needs facts when you have strong opinions? who needs reasoning when a slogan will suffice? who needs to read when you have moral certitude? reality, if utopia? knowledge, if faith?

you’re a true believer my friend

your politics has achieved religion

may you reach your holy land, crusader!

 
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Old 03.22.2019, 10:37 AM   #6229
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Awww thank you. Fully automated luxury communism NOW!!!!
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Also don't compare my political beliefs to suchfriends jah man smoke da weed n praise jesus shit!! I'M OFFENDED!
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Old 03.22.2019, 10:39 AM   #6231
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Also don't compare my political beliefs to suchfriends jah man smoke da weed n praise jesus shit!! I'M OFFENDED!
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Suchfriends (a white man) once referred to the impoverished young people who lived near him as "the lil homies"
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Old 03.22.2019, 10:54 AM   #6233
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Suchfriends (a white man) once referred to the improverished young people who lived near him as "the lil homies"
well, at least he recognized his religion as religion, and in this he was more honest than your credo

go read that krugman piece if your religion allows it. he’s got some brilliant critiques of centrism that utilize detailed knowledge and the faculty of reason to persuade with nuanced argument. what a heretic!

ps- there are good counterarguments in the comments. oh mama! dissension! i’m scareded...
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Yeeeah you guys ignored the rest of my post there didn't ya. It's not worth losing the newfound support in the left and the youth vote to gain some disenfranchised Tory voters. How many of them do you honestly think there are? Tory to Labour voters and vice versa aren't deciding factors in elections, the evidence shows that turnout is more important. The vast majority of people pick a side and stick to it!! The idea of changing strategy to entice the other side leads to the same centrist milieu where both major parties become similar and don't really stand for anything which has been the state of Western politics for the past several decades. Why would you want that?? That's not changing anything!!

I understand your point but I do still think that while there is a need for more distance between the main parties, Corbyn has taken Labour in a direction that alienates more people than it attracts. I may well be wrong. Certainly a younger generation of voters aren't turned off by him, and if that generation bucks historical trends and votes perhaps he does have a chance. The other issue for me, though, is that I'm one of the people he's alienated. So even if he is capable of becoming Prime Minister, I wouldn't want him to be.
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well, according to mueller, there was no “collission” after all, because he recommends “no further indictments” haaahaaahaaa

goddamn, i fear for skuj, he was really committed to the results



looks like the buck stops with roger stone



and im really grateful for my agnosticism and extensive psychotheraphy [paid by insurance, oh yeah]
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well, according to mueller, there was no “collission” after all, because he recommends “no further indictments” haaahaaahaaa

goddamn, i fear for skuj, he was really committed to the results



looks like the buck stops with roger stone



and im really grateful for my agnosticism and extensive psychotheraphy [paid by insurance, oh yeah]


Um....you know this how? No more indictments = no collision? Please explain.
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Um....you know this how? No more indictments = no collision? Please explain.
well whatever roger stone did it ends with him no?

nobody is gonna charge el presidente, ivankatron, juniorjuniorjunior, purple kushner, etc.

meanwhile, read this for more headaches. was cleaning out my email and found it in a newsletter

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-it-will-fade/
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Old 03.22.2019, 07:20 PM   #6240
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anyway we can all dry our tears with a little klobuchar

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...nt-have-guess/

it's old, but again-- was cleaning my mailbox
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