The Mighty Football Thread - Page 346

h8kurdt · 05.30.2015, 08:38 AM

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same thing in germany-- dortmund/wolfsburg

kloppo's last day!

starts in 6+ hours

i think i'll have to miss it

Cup final day and you're gonna miss it? I'm sorry, but as a representative of Americans following football on here you're letting your country down, you're letting your team down and worst of all you're letting yourself down.

Come on now.

!@#$%! · 05.30.2015, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt

Cup final day and you're gonna miss it? I'm sorry, but as a representative of Americans following football on here you're letting your country down, you're letting your team down and worst of all you're letting yourself down.

Come on now.

ha ha ha-- i'm not german!

and business is business-- but you make good points.

i'll see what i can fix in the next few hours...

!@#$%! · 05.30.2015, 01:28 PM

dortmund 1 wolfsburg 1 @ 20ish...

exciting game!

it's on bt sport if you have access

demonrail666 · 05.31.2015, 05:26 AM

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bring back the FA Cup song.

Now that's something that should've been one of Milliband's stone commandments.

!@#$%! · 05.31.2015, 08:39 AM

german cup ended with wolfsburg flipping the tortilla to win 3-1

it was heartbreaking

the dortund fans were burning flares, it looked amazing

poor dortmund-- they barely made it to a "qualifying round" of the europa league-- not the group stage-- meanig a longer season.

well now klopp can go to liverpool or napoli or wherever

demonrail666 · 05.31.2015, 12:16 PM

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It's ok to live in a dream world every now and then

Not sure it's just a dream. This is too big for Blatter to wriggle out of. There'll be plenty of those who've been arrested that'll talk to avoid jail and the golden name to drop is Blatter's. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he ends up in jail for this, and certainly can't see any way he'll be able to continue as FIFA president for much longer. His getting re-elected hasn't made him stronger but only made his position seem all the more absurd.

demonrail666 · 05.31.2015, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

german cup ended with wolfsburg flipping the tortilla to win 3-1

it was heartbreaking

the dortund fans were burning flares, it looked amazing

poor dortmund-- they barely made it to a "qualifying round" of the europa league-- not the group stage-- meanig a longer season.

well now klopp can go to liverpool or napoli or wherever

The FA Cup ended just too one-sided to really be interesting. Arsenal were great but Villa didn't really put up much opposition.

Happy with the result, not cos I'm an Arsenal fan but cos I don't like Sherwood. If Villa had won his ego would've defied gravity.

I have a bad habit of liking/disliking teams based on what I think of their manager. That could be a nightmare if Spurs ever got Bielsa, or Klopp.

As for now, I increasingly think Klopp's either having a season out and just seeing how things pan out, or going to Napoli. I think Liverpool are gonna stick with Rodgers for another season, at least.

TheMadcapLaughs · 06.01.2015, 01:24 PM

Ronaldo on holiday...

http://www.goal.com/en/news/7180/gal...i?ICID=HP_HN_2

h8kurdt · 06.02.2015, 12:20 PM

He's...gone...he's actually gone...

So what happens now?

!@#$%! · 06.02.2015, 01:25 PM

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He's...gone...he's actually gone...

So what happens now?

new boss-- same as the old boss?

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 06.02.2015, 01:48 PM

demonrail666 · 06.02.2015, 01:52 PM

Wa-hey!!!

The thing I've always thought about FIFA is it's not hard to run. All it really needs to do is decide the location of a World Cup every four years and oversee occasional rule changes. Sepp fucked it up by turning it into a quasi-political force designed primarily to ensure his ongoing reign. Easiest way to nip that in the bud for any future wannabe dictator is to limit the term of presidency and end the policy of 1 country 1 vote.

I just hope whoever succeeds him isn't a 'politician' but a real football person, only interested in the good of the game. It probably won't be but, whoever it is, so long as measures are put in place to limit their power it's a massive step forward.

Rob Instigator · 06.02.2015, 01:54 PM

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He's...gone...he's actually gone...

So what happens now?

nothing other than someone else will be getting all the kickbacks and bribes and hush money and blood money and shit.

FIFA, and football in much of Europe has been fixed for the organized crime families for decades.....

!@#$%! · 06.02.2015, 02:07 PM

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The thing I've always thought about FIFA is it's not hard to run. All it really needs to do is decide the location of a World Cup every four years and oversee occasional rule changes.

hell no. they sit on mountains of money. they set up championships all-over. they decide waht is a country and what is not. transfer policies. financial rules. on & on. they are bigger than the UN i reckon.

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Sepp fucked it up by turning it into a quasi-political force designed primarily to ensure his ongoing reign.

all reigns are that. havelange ruled for a quarter century and he's the one who brought big sponsorship money into this whole thing. he's 99 and still alive btw.

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Easiest way to nip that in the bud for any future wannabe dictator is to limit the term of presidency and end the policy of 1 country 1 vote.

how would you do it then? rule britannia? i'm not asking this mockingly-- i was reminded in an article the other day of the many recent scandals in european football. who has moral superiority?

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I just hope whoever succeeds him isn't a 'politician' but a real football person, only interested in the good of the game. It probably won't be but, whoever it is, so long as measures are put in place to limit their power it's a massive step forward.

institutions are designed to weed those people out. it will just be another gerontocrat mafioso.

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

FIFA, and football in much of Europe has been fixed for the organized crime families for decades.....

demonrail666 · 06.02.2015, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

hell no. they sit on mountains of money. they set up championships all-over. they decide waht is a country and what is not. transfer policies. financial rules. on & on. they are bigger than the UN i reckon.

They are but they needn't be. Admittedly it involves more than what I said but far less than it got involved with under Blatter.

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all reigns are that. havelange ruled for a quarter century and he's the one who brought big sponsorship money into this whole thing. he's 99 and still alive btw.

To a degree, but if you limited the term of presidency you'd do a lot to discourage it.

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how would you do it then? rule britannia? i'm not asking this mockingly-- i was reminded in an article the other day of the many recent scandals in european football. who has moral superiority?

I'm not talking about moral superiority but if the big European countries feel that FIFA's only interested in using them as a cash cow, then they'll be tempted to break away and do their own thing. The reality is FIFA needs European football far more than European football needs FIFA.

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institutions are designed to weed those people out. it will just be another gerontocrat mafioso.

Tend to agree but, again, limiting the term of presidency will only help.

!@#$%! · 06.02.2015, 02:51 PM

^^ oh yeah, i totally agree with term limits. sorry i forgot to mention that.

same thing should be with national federations-- where many corrupt leaders use the same system of patronage with small clubs as blatter has used with small countries to retain their grip on power.

as for uefa--yes, they have the greatest financial power, but if they were to dominate fifa then chances are they'd only use it to... ensure their ongoing reign! i really don't know what to suggest here. seems like it's fucked in any direction.

!@#$%! · 06.02.2015, 02:58 PM

ps- maybe each confederation should get as many votes as they get teams into the world cup, ha ha ha.

no, for serious.

demonrail666 · 06.02.2015, 03:34 PM

I don't necessarily disagree about the votes-per-World Cup qualifiers idea, or something along those lines, anyway.

I don't pretend to have the answers to all this. Any institution that governs something as huge financially as football will invite corruption, so It'd be naive to think it can ever be gotten rid of entirely. I do think, though, that a few common sense changes at the level of infrastructure would help prevent it from thriving in the way that it did under Blatter.

h8kurdt · 06.02.2015, 03:36 PM

And in other news Benitez is the new Real Madrid boss. Be interesting to see what he does with Bale et al.

!@#$%! · 06.02.2015, 03:41 PM

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And in other news Benitez is the new Real Madrid boss. Be interesting to see what he does with Bale et al.

im more curious about who'll be filling in for him @ napoli

o wait! he's taking a break after all

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32963594

he can now go live in brooklyn and call pep's weed dealer, come up with a new take on the 4-2-4

but yeah, i feel bale might have been wasted this past year-- if you'd care to explain how, it would be great

05.30.2015, 01:28 PM	#6903
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,648	dortmund 1 wolfsburg 1 @ 20ish... exciting game! it's on bt sport if you have access
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05.31.2015, 08:39 AM	#6905
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,648	german cup ended with wolfsburg flipping the tortilla to win 3-1 it was heartbreaking the dortund fans were burning flares, it looked amazing poor dortmund-- they barely made it to a "qualifying round" of the europa league-- not the group stage-- meanig a longer season. well now klopp can go to liverpool or napoli or wherever
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h8kurdt invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In Mulder's Basement room Posts: 5,459	He's...gone...he's actually gone... So what happens now? __________________ Down with this sort of thing.
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06.02.2015, 01:52 PM	#6912
demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	Wa-hey!!! The thing I've always thought about FIFA is it's not hard to run. All it really needs to do is decide the location of a World Cup every four years and oversee occasional rule changes. Sepp fucked it up by turning it into a quasi-political force designed primarily to ensure his ongoing reign. Easiest way to nip that in the bud for any future wannabe dictator is to limit the term of presidency and end the policy of 1 country 1 vote. I just hope whoever succeeds him isn't a 'politician' but a real football person, only interested in the good of the game. It probably won't be but, whoever it is, so long as measures are put in place to limit their power it's a massive step forward.
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06.02.2015, 02:51 PM	#6916
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,648	^^ oh yeah, i totally agree with term limits. sorry i forgot to mention that. same thing should be with national federations-- where many corrupt leaders use the same system of patronage with small clubs as blatter has used with small countries to retain their grip on power. as for uefa--yes, they have the greatest financial power, but if they were to dominate fifa then chances are they'd only use it to... ensure their ongoing reign! i really don't know what to suggest here. seems like it's fucked in any direction.
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06.02.2015, 02:58 PM	#6917
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,648	ps- maybe each confederation should get as many votes as they get teams into the world cup, ha ha ha. no, for serious.
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06.02.2015, 03:34 PM	#6918
demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	I don't necessarily disagree about the votes-per-World Cup qualifiers idea, or something along those lines, anyway. I don't pretend to have the answers to all this. Any institution that governs something as huge financially as football will invite corruption, so It'd be naive to think it can ever be gotten rid of entirely. I do think, though, that a few common sense changes at the level of infrastructure would help prevent it from thriving in the way that it did under Blatter.
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06.02.2015, 03:36 PM	#6919
h8kurdt invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In Mulder's Basement room Posts: 5,459	And in other news Benitez is the new Real Madrid boss. Be interesting to see what he does with Bale et al. __________________ Down with this sort of thing.
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