[Bytor Peltor]

Washing my hands of what?

I linked a story from a newspaper.
Are you questioning the accuracy of the reporting?

YES - a couple of times over the past year or so I said I believe President Trump will easily win re-election. This is my opinion and guess what, I could be 100% wrong. Also, opinions shouldn’t necessarily be considered support!

I appreciate your acknowledgment that I’m not defending our President.

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

yep, you’re not defending trump, you’re just cherrypicking favorable mango bullshit “according to the dallas morning news” while pretending to wash your hands of any responsibility

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

Washing my hands of what?

I linked a story from a newspaper.
Are you questioning the accuracy of the reporting?

YES - a couple of times over the past year or so I said I believe President Trump will easily win re-election. This is my opinion and guess what, I could be 100% wrong. Also, opinions shouldn’t necessarily be considered support!

I appreciate your acknowledgment that I’m not defending our President.

im actually pointing out the clear intentions of your blogging, you utter indefensible dumbfuck

it’s okay, you don’t need to pretend to understand this—it’s just the rest of us, so we know how to treat you

keep either playing or being dumb, whichever applies

[guest]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

No one here has defended Hillary just like I haven’t been defending Donald. I get hammered for not calling out Donald, yet no one here has called out Hillary.

When I go against the grain (Mueller Report) for over a year and get it correct, the resentment towards me grows. Hate filled post directed at me that are full of bitterness, cussing and accusations of being a racist. Then when Robert points out that you have no statements by me where I’ve said anything racist, you attack him? Once again, my request for “quote and reply” are ignored.

I understand you are tired of hearing about Hillary and I’ll gladly refrain from mentioning her for a good while......at least until she announces that she’s running.

I’m curious, guest, who here is trying to communicate?

yeah look I can't be bothered with this, I went to an effort to engage with you and actually try to have a dialogue. but you don't actually acknowledge anything I've said, you don't seem to even remotely register anything I've written and just ignore it like a child.

your behaviour is petulant and there's a beautiful irony to you being obscenely juvenile here, and it's frankly just not worth engaging with you. saying that the actions of clinton are tantamount to the frequent assaults on democracy (much less basic human decency) of which the trump administration is inarguably guilty is totally ridiculous, and that you continue to resort to this little soundbite at the expense of actually having to engage with the shit you're proffering means it's an absolute waste of time trying to talk to you.

I didn't attack mister schlunk by any means, and until very recently no one attacked you until it became abundantly clear that it's like talking to a brick fucking wall.

[h8kurdt]

Clinton email investigation ends

Now Bytor can really shush about it. It's over.

[_tunic_]

Trump vs. Trump: Kurds Edition
flip flop

Also, this morning in Dutch press there was this article:
US Ambassador Hoekstra: 'The Netherlands jointly responsible for chaos in Syria'
let me know if that link ain't working for you. It's a Google translation. I don't see the video interview on the bottom of it, see the original article if you still want to watch it (but it might be that it's not possible for you). It's still interesting to watch, the interviewers of the Nieuwsuur program ("News Hour") have a great relationship with the ambassador, NOT. See in this older interview between 6:20 and 7:20


I guess there is some truth here, but we only had some F-16's there as far as I know, no ground troops or anything else.

[Bytor Peltor]

NOT ONE quote and reply!

Originally Posted by guest

yeah look I can't be bothered with this

[h8kurdt]

So you don't think your constant obsession with calling Barack Obama "Hussein". The argument that "well that's his name" doesn't wash. You wouldn't call Trump "John", you wouldn't call Mike Pence "Richard" (I would call him Dick though). Fact is you were uncomfortable that the President of America had a middle name that was the same surname as Saddam. Your racist ass equates the two as being the same and that Obama is a terrorist. So to double down in that you call him Hussein instead of his first or middle name.

[Bytor Peltor]

Not once did I say or imply terrorist.

Multiple occasions I questioned if he might be proven a traitor.

Granting immunity so Hillary’s attorney could destroy emails is the reason.

Why would you think I was uncomfortable?

I was very active on SYG during all eight years of the Obama administration and I never said word one......no disparaging comments by me!

Originally Posted by h8kurdt

So you don't think your constant obsession with calling Barack Obama "Hussein". The argument that "well that's his name" doesn't wash. You wouldn't call Trump "John", you wouldn't call Mike Pence "Richard" (I would call him Dick though). Fact is you were uncomfortable that the President of America had a middle name that was the same surname as Saddam. Your racist ass equates the two as being the same and that Obama is a terrorist. So to double down in that you call him Hussein instead of his first or middle name.

[h8kurdt]

So why constantly call him Hussein?

[Bytor Peltor]

Originally Posted by h8kurdt

So why constantly call him Hussein?

I used it once and it drew such ire and aggravation, I returned to that well......perhaps too many times?

When others are referring to you as racist, wishing that your kids were taken and you were dead, one must be subtle in how they land a punch.

Who knew Nick Caves remarks about Antifa would be the straw to break guest’s camel? (should have been posting such things all along)

Originally Posted by h8kurdt

Sometimes I swear you're just trolling.

Not really......just a few who are so easily baited : )

[guest]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

Not once did I say or imply terrorist.

Multiple occasions I questioned if he might be proven a traitor.

Granting immunity so Hillary’s attorney could destroy emails is the reason.

Why would you think I was uncomfortable?

I was very active on SYG during all eight years of the Obama administration and I never said word one......no disparaging comments by me!

in saying Hussein you are inadvertently or otherwise implying that he’s a traitor, baselessly I might add, and the only ostensible reason you’re demonising him through referring to him as Hussein is because he is of colour. recognise the gravity of your words and don’t be such a coward.

[guest]

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk

Well, then you're saying that you're declaring his worldview to be racist/xenophobic by fiat. I've had that done to me in person this past spring by someone who said I "know all the right words" (because I know what I'm talking about) but my argument was still "racist" (because he said so!).

And I wasn't accusing you of "reverse racism" either. The great African-American labor leader A. Phillip Randolph wrote the following, possibly (as might be inferred from the internal context) in response to an accusation of anti-white racism concerning his position on immigration:

"Instead of reducing immigration to 2 percent of the 1890 quota, we favor reducing it to nothing.... We favor shutting out the Germans from Germany, the Italians from Italy...the Hindus from India, the Chinese from China, and even the Negroes from the West Indies. This country is suffering from immigrant indigestion. It is time to call a halt on this grand rush for American gold, which over-floods the labor market, resulting in lowering the standard of living, race-riots, and general social degradation. The excessive immigration is against the interests of the masses of all races and nationalities in the country — both foreign and native."1

mother of god

[!@#$%!]

drunkle bob tl;dr: make the 19th century great again

[Bytor Peltor]

You and a few others are doing the twisting!

This usually happens when one is filled with anger and bitterness.

All they know to do is lash out at others.

Poor losers......probably never got picked for kickball on the playground.

Eight years of Obama and no disparaging comments by me, that’s the TRUTH!!!

Originally Posted by guest

in saying Hussein you are inadvertently or otherwise implying that he’s a traitor, baselessly I might add, and the only ostensible reason you’re demonising him through referring to him as Hussein is because he is of colour. recognise the gravity of your words and don’t be such a coward.

[h8kurdt]

So why start after his terms were over?

[choc e-Claire]

Cripes - I know Sonic Youth fans are thought of as pretentious, but have you ever thought about toning it down a bit, Rob?

[choc e-Claire]

Right, now try and say that in a way that doesn't make you sound like some smartass Socrates wannabe.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk

The reason I frequently refer to the America of a century ago is due to the regression which American society has undergone since about 1972, to the extent that today's American social reality resembles that of a century ago more than it resembles that of fifty years ago. I frequently read Comrade Victor Berger's century-old editorials in the Socialist newspaper "The Milwaukee Leader" (published as a book entitled: "Berger's Broadsides") because they speak to the century-old social reality into which the American ruling class has plunged us in the last 50 years.

The Democratic Party's solution to this social crisis is to mystify class conflict by confounding it with racial, religious, sexual and whatnot conflict in order to isolate the working class amidst a sea of petit-bourgois and lumpenproletarian elements who present themselves as "oppressed" rebels against the current unjust social order while hoping nobody notices that the government, the military, academia, the corporate media, and every other instrument of ruling-class power is concertedly supporting the controlled "rebellion".

It's a cute trick if you can get away with it. I see my job as making sure they can't and won't get away with it.

You're right about this new 'woke' Left representing a kind of controlled rebellion but, given that industrialisation was the very thing that gave Marx's concept of class any real meaning, do you (as a self-proclaimed Marxist) really think that class, and especially class-conflict, is a viable idea within the context of an increasingly de-industrialised West? After all, many of those we'd traditionally consider working class moved away from the very kind of manual and manufacturing jobs that Marx saw as key to their revolutionary potential towards a very different kind of employment: within the service industries, or in white collar jobs, or in many cases continuing in manual or manufacturing work, but as their own bosses. Nor should we forget those made unemployed as a consequence of de-industrialisation, who became part of the lumpenproletariat as a result.

These people (whatever we want to call them) definitely deserve far better political representation than I currently see them getting from the 'woke'/'progressive' Left but I'm no longer sure that an emphasis on class, especially in terms of Marx's rather narrow and historically-defined concept of it, is particularly helpful to them either right now.

[!@#$%!]

class without accounting for race?

this is what happens when you’re middle class, even upper middle class, and black in america

http://powerreporting.com/color/color_of_money.pdf

[h8kurdt]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

According to the Dallas Morning News:

As Trump was regaling 20,000 supporters in Dallas, former congressman and Democratic presidential contender Beto O’Rourke staged a counter-rally at the Theatre in Grand Prairie attended by about 5,500.

And Bernie had 25,000 people turn up to his rally in Queens yesterday

Many such numbers