Is Trump really a serious contender for the Republican nomination? - Page 383

choc e-Claire · 01.30.2020, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

that’s gonna be hard after warren tried to stab sanders in the kidneys on national television

I evidently missed this one.

Weird, from what I'm gathering they seem to have a lot of similar policies, but they're apparently quite different?

Derek · 01.30.2020, 09:03 PM

Yang is a dummy. UBI is something that should be looked into but the fact that he wants to carte blanche give everyone a grand a month without any mass systemic changes is irresponsible.

When asked "what if landlords and retailers just put their prices up?" he said "well the market would prevent that". None of it makes any sense. No, the market would not stop greedy landlords nor would it stop Walmart making a loaf of bread $10 when it's the only place in your town. The West is consumed by unfettered capitalism and there is a lot that needs to be done before something like UBI can make sense.

And Warren can go kick rocks. She is a pandering phony. She is nothing like Bernie despite the association. She is in it for herself just like every other establishment dem in the race and would make a horrible leader. Sanders is for the worker and can mobilise a mass progressive movement. I think he will outperform the polls (what was it? like 0.3% between him and Hillary in Iowa in 2016 despite being massively behind in polls? He won New Hampshire with 60%?). The only caveat would be the South but I think he will have enough momentum at that point either way. Hopefully Bloomberg takes away some of Biden's support when he arrogantly storms in during Super Tuesday with his billions of dollars.

Derek · 01.30.2020, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire

I evidently missed this one.

Weird, from what I'm gathering they seem to have a lot of similar policies, but they're apparently quite different?

Warren is a "ethical capitalist", Bernie is a social democrat. While their policies are similar on a surface level, Warren's positions are actually much more compromised. She has flip flopped constantly on major issues and doesn't have anywhere near as good of a track record as Bernie.

She is also a chronic liar. Her beef with Bernie (which conveniently came out when her poll numbers were falling and his were rising the night before a debate) is that apparently Bernie said to her that a woman couldn't win the presidency. Which makes absolutely no sense since there is footage of Bernie saying a woman could be president in 1988 and a few years ago. He also encouraged Warren to run in 2016 and when she didn't, he decided to instead. He also did 47 campaign events for Hillary (and btw, Hillary did only 11 campaign events for Obama in 2008). It makes absolutely no sense that he would say that to her or even think that. It's a lie for political gain and a lot of people lost respect for her after it, even non-Sanders supporters.

She also lied and said she was Native American, with a Harvard Law Journal naming her as the first woman of colour to teach there. She said that she didn't know they were billing her that way, when there are data forms she signed where she put her ethnicity as "American Indian". She lied to get ahead professionally, and took away an achievement from someone who is actually a minority. Not to mention that she wrote a Native American recipe book called Pow Wow Chow that she called old family recipes, when it was actually copied from somewhere else.

Oh she was also a diehard Republican until 1996 at the young impressionable age of 47. She says that she changed her mind when she looked into how people use welfare to try and catch them out, only to find that the majority on welfare were struggling families who couldn't make ends meet. It took her that long to figure out such a basic thing? Wtf?

There are tons of things suspicious about her and I've barely cracked the surface but the point is that she can't be trusted and has no issue with lying to get ahead. That is not leader quality. Bernie has been consistent, honest and principled his entire decades long career. They are not the same at all.

!@#$%! · 01.30.2020, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tw2113

Start a "Is Bernie really a serious contender for the Democratic nomination" thread

lol of course he’s a serious contender.

i made a thread about the democratic debates some time ago. maybe i’ll dig it out or make one about the primaries.

!@#$%! · 01.30.2020, 10:54 PM

damn, derek looks like a republican oppo research operative here

Derek · 01.31.2020, 01:36 AM

If it pays better than my current shitty job then hell I'll do it

Bytor Peltor · 01.31.2020, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

sure you would beauregard

I truly would trade Bolton’s sworn testimony for that of Hunter or Joe, because I want to hear it, but I highly doubt it happens!

Actually, I’m looking for a NO VOTE on witnesses and a swift move of a UP or DOWN vote......that vote leading to a MAJORITY ACQUITTAL!!!

Everyone have a great weekend!!!

h8kurdt · 01.31.2020, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

I truly would trade Bolton’s sworn testimony for that of Hunter or Joe, because I want to hear it, but I highly doubt it happens!

Actually, I’m looking for a NO VOTE on witnesses and a swift move of a UP or DOWN vote......that vote leading to a MAJORITY ACQUITTAL!!!

Everyone have a great weekend!!!

You write like that all the time? Even when sending business letters?

!@#$%! · 01.31.2020, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt

You write like that all the time? Even when sending business letters?

he’s not allowed to write at work

!@#$%! · 01.31.2020, 08:22 AM

anyway, the republican mafia in the senate seems ready to exonerate their demon overlod without a single witness testifying

sham sham sham... we can all see and remember

ilduclo · 01.31.2020, 08:32 AM

Trimp DNA.

h8kurdt · 01.31.2020, 07:05 PM

Imagine the mental gymnastics Bytor has to do to be fine with there being no witnesses in a trial.

!@#$%! · 01.31.2020, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt

Imagine the mental gymnastics Bytor has to do to be fine with there being no witnesses in a trial.

but that would require a mind, plus enough ability to perform gymnastics...

tw2113 · 01.31.2020, 08:02 PM

they already make the US people bend over backwards while saying "please sir may i have another?"

h8kurdt · 02.01.2020, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

but that would require a mind, plus enough ability to perform gymnastics...

More flailing around than gymnastics, right?

choc e-Claire · 02.01.2020, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt

More flailing around than gymnastics, right?

h8kurdt · 02.01.2020, 03:53 AM

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In an interview with Variety, Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said she feels an "urge" to run and beat President Donald Trump.

VARIETY: I know you’re not running for president, but do you ever feel the urge to think: “I could beat Donald Trump if I were running.”

HILLARY CLINTON: Yeah. I certainly feel the urge because I feel the 2016 election was a really odd time and an odd outcome. And the more we learn, the more that seems to be the case. But I’m going to support the people who are running now and do everything I can to help elect the Democratic nominee.

Ah yes, she's doing a great job of supporting Sanders isn't she. Fucking idiot.

h8kurdt · 02.01.2020, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by choc e-Claire

Like that but with more stumbling from point to point

choc e-Claire · 02.01.2020, 03:55 AM

^

- solid movie, too

GravitySlips · 02.01.2020, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

anyway, the republican mafia in the senate seems ready to exonerate their demon overlod without a single witness testifying

sham sham sham... we can all see and remember

Sounds like a failing democracy. Who the fuck needs witnesses anyway?

01.30.2020, 09:03 PM	#7642
Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	Yang is a dummy. UBI is something that should be looked into but the fact that he wants to carte blanche give everyone a grand a month without any mass systemic changes is irresponsible. When asked "what if landlords and retailers just put their prices up?" he said "well the market would prevent that". None of it makes any sense. No, the market would not stop greedy landlords nor would it stop Walmart making a loaf of bread $10 when it's the only place in your town. The West is consumed by unfettered capitalism and there is a lot that needs to be done before something like UBI can make sense. And Warren can go kick rocks. She is a pandering phony. She is nothing like Bernie despite the association. She is in it for herself just like every other establishment dem in the race and would make a horrible leader. Sanders is for the worker and can mobilise a mass progressive movement. I think he will outperform the polls (what was it? like 0.3% between him and Hillary in Iowa in 2016 despite being massively behind in polls? He won New Hampshire with 60%?). The only caveat would be the South but I think he will have enough momentum at that point either way. Hopefully Bloomberg takes away some of Biden's support when he arrogantly storms in during Super Tuesday with his billions of dollars.
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01.30.2020, 10:54 PM	#7645
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,546	damn, derek looks like a republican oppo research operative here
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01.31.2020, 01:36 AM	#7646
Derek invito al cielo Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,095	If it pays better than my current shitty job then hell I'll do it
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01.31.2020, 08:22 AM	#7650
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,546	anyway, the republican mafia in the senate seems ready to exonerate their demon overlod without a single witness testifying sham sham sham... we can all see and remember
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01.31.2020, 08:32 AM	#7651
ilduclo invito al cielo Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,305	Trimp DNA.
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01.31.2020, 07:05 PM	#7652
h8kurdt invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In Mulder's Basement room Posts: 5,459	Imagine the mental gymnastics Bytor has to do to be fine with there being no witnesses in a trial. __________________ Down with this sort of thing.
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01.31.2020, 08:02 PM	#7654
tw2113 expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: South Dakota Posts: 2,147	they already make the US people bend over backwards while saying "please sir may i have another?" __________________ Shake shake
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02.01.2020, 03:55 AM	#7659
choc e-Claire expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 2,460	^ - solid movie, too __________________ Making myself up as I go along. Check out my music-themed blog, 79:57.
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