[floatingslowly]

Dubstep, though often maligned by your's truly, is a crucial music form in that it provides a way for those who are heavily intoxicated (and likely hallucinating wildly) to take part in the ritualized behavior of dance, SIMPLY BY NODDING THEIR HEADS.

Besides, what else is that guy in the bunny suit going to get down to??

[Severian]

Originally Posted by louder

i don't really like their early albums. i dug the accessibility of MPP though.
not interested in hearing the new songs, but i'll check out the album once it drops.

Well you would dig it. It's practically a club-banger. Ha.

Very hip-hop feel, though. I prefer Feels, but MPP is incredible, as long as you don't pollute your mental image of the music with those inexcusably stupid videos.

[Severian]

But I refuse to join in the dubstep debate. Manny a big deal out of it just offers another opportunity for people to be douchebags about music.

[keep poppin pimples]

listened to the new animal collective 7" and i don't think the tracks are bad at all, but i'm not a big ac listener so others may have had higher hopes

[raindrop]

Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

i think people should be takling about this niggas haircut more than anything else.

i really like his hairstyle, though i don't think it's for him. if he could shorten it he'd look hot.

[SpaceCadetHayden]

You people genuinely put on AnCo records that aren't Prospect Hummer or Campfire Songs and enjoy them?

[SYRFox]

more importantly, there are still people who think animal collective are genuinely worth debating over - in 2012? people have been making exactly the same arguments in favour of them or against them for years now, ain't it about time to talk about something else? i still genuinely have no idea why they've been brought up in this thread - a thread about an edm artist could certainly have been used to talk about more interesting things than those animal collective songs, that's for sure.

here, enjoy some lhf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpSOMMXKY1Y
(something that can potentially please everyone)

[hypertonic]

As a "dormant" house/tech-house DJ, haha I'd just like to say.... fuck Skrillex and most of this other under-produced dubstep trash. It's not even just Skrillex but the whole environment that sub-genre/scene has created. Thats what happens when everyone thinks they are a producer when they get a macbook pro and some speakers. And what is the content? Instant gratification and hedonism with no understanding of what you are doing?? How can you have any progression with no understanding or respect for what came before you? We actually created a project, in the style of a certain other rapper, sorta poking fun at the whole thing... and how easy it is to put something together.. hah

http://soundcloud.com/dub-step-man-1

...

I do have to admit to playing AnCo MPP vinyl in the club at several opportunities and it sounded quite nice? However I do prefer their earlier stuff... Sung Tongs and earlier..

[Derek]

 

[hypertonic]

Originally Posted by Murmer99

shut up br0 smh, taht stuff iz 0ld.

here ya go br0 - you'd rather I play this?

http://www.makemefries.com/video/237...ersion%29.html

mmm tastes like brostep -- had to get us back on topic :/

[Glice]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ-27rdwJPs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRCBy...eature=related

Does anyone know who the first of the non-British dubstep producers was? Time was the only famous names were in London. Ahh.

Also, I'm aware the above isn't dubstep.

[Glice]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnauS1rnDiI

Fuck yeah!

[SYRFox]

hold tight glice still reppin from day. all those tunes are classics pure and simple

so solid crew have serious tunes - including one of the first dubstep tunes ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doMX6su9Ue0
so does sticky actually - haven't followed him lately but i know he had some sick funky tunes a couple of years ago.

as for the first non-British dubstep artist... Joe Nice started DJing in 2002 so I guess he must have been the first American dubstep DJs, so probably him. in terms of producers, DJ Abstract was not really pure dubstep all the times but he released Touch in 2003 and I'm pretty sure he was from the US as well

it's mad how everything even remotely connected to the hardcore continuum (i'm excluding brostep as it's too far removed from it nowadays) is always awesome. i'm all about grime and funky this week

[SYRFox]

og 4x4 uk garage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa9bx13SRtQ

grime classic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGPVGR_Srfk (double s' flow on the third verse is simply insane. one of my favourite grime mcs for sure)

[hypertonic]

I don't deny there are some great dubstep tunes, especially the early UK stuff. I guess personally i like dubstep as a breakdown for d&b, but hour after hour sets or all dubstep parties are excruciating. Soooo many shit DJ's. We have an all dubstep monthly here that some cats are throwing just to capitalize on it. So shallow, so hollow, and so cold & devoid of emotion and soul. Give me some proper acid techno, banging Swedish techno, or funky/jazzy/techhouse/deephouse. Even D&B. Everyone knows that shit is designed to dance to all night... The fact that dubstep is what people picked up on in the American mainstream as a cross-over electronic genre is the reason so many of the older heads have all but given up on the local scene here.. Some of us are doing weirder shit now, because at least there is real passion and content and depth to it.

Nice 2-step Glice! Yeah a lot of those tunes are good. Again my complaint is really what had resulted from it now (brostep)

[Severian]

Originally Posted by SYRFox

more importantly, there are still people who think animal collective are genuinely worth debating over - in 2012? people have been making exactly the same arguments in favour of them or against them for years now, ain't it about time to talk about something else? i still genuinely have no idea why they've been brought up in this thread - a thread about an edm artist could certainly have been used to talk about more interesting things than those animal collective songs, that's for sure.

here, enjoy some lhf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpSOMMXKY1Y
(something that can potentially please everyone)

I like Animal Collective, but I agree.

[SYRFox]

Originally Posted by hypertonic

I don't deny there are some great dubstep tunes, especially the early UK stuff. I guess personally i like dubstep as a breakdown for d&b, but hour after hour sets or all dubstep parties are excruciating. Soooo many shit DJ's. We have an all dubstep monthly here that some cats are throwing just to capitalize on it. So shallow, so hollow, and so cold & devoid of emotion and soul. Give me some proper acid techno, banging Swedish techno, or funky/jazzy/techhouse/deephouse. Even D&B. Everyone knows that shit is designed to dance to all night... The fact that dubstep is what people picked up on in the American mainstream as a cross-over electronic genre is the reason so many of the older heads have all but given up on the local scene here.. Some of us are doing weirder shit now, because at least there is real passion and content and depth to it.

Nice 2-step Glice! Yeah a lot of those tunes are good. Again my complaint is really what had resulted from it now (brostep)

yeah you can't really compare dubstep to brostep... most dubstep (even nowadays) has soul and emotion - it's just the 1% of party stuff that is deprived of it, and for some reason it's the facet of the genre that became mainstream.

you should listen to rinse: 19 mixed by icicle (perhaps you already did!); in less than an hour, he manages to spin techno, dubstep and drum&bass and keep a good flow - all the tracks kinda have the same dark atmosphere so it helps -. impressive stuff - not really something I'd dance all night to though, but I have Funkystepz for that ahah

Originally Posted by Severian

I like Animal Collective, but I agree.

mind you, even though it's been a while since I last listened to one of their albums, i actually like Animal Collective as well - but do I want to have the same arguments over and over? no

[Severian]

Originally Posted by SYRFox

mind you, even though it's been a while since I last listened to one of their albums, i actually like Animal Collective as well - but do I want to have the same arguments over and over? no

Yeah, it's boring. I made my mind up about that band in 2003. My conclusion was, and remains, that they are awesome. So that's that. Moving on, then...

[hypertonic]

Originally Posted by SYRFox

you should listen to rinse: 19 mixed by icicle (perhaps you already did!); in less than an hour, he manages to spin techno, dubstep and drum&bass and keep a good flow - all the tracks kinda have the same dark atmosphere so it helps -. impressive stuff - not really something I'd dance all night to though, but I have Funkystepz for that ahah

I'll check it out at some point. Yeah I prefer those types of mixes anyways. Something that takes you somewhere. I usually go through 3 or 4 genres of 4/4 stuff in any given set.

Brostep has just took the making tracks in your underwear on yr laptop with pre-made loops thing to such a disgusting level that its taken the fun out of it around here.. Then you have an uninformed "new" audience that scoffs at house/techno and anything without "wub"s. Goddamn its so fucking irritating... Yeah there’s a lot of DJs in general, but at least most house/4/4 types have played vinyl, learned the classics and where it came from... etc. Maybe some dubstep DJ's do, but around here the tracks are horrible, the mixing skills near non existent, and mostly use the cheapest controller available w/o ever having touched vinyl. This usually happens anytime there's a new fad 'it" genre in underground electronic music. Electro was big for a few years and everyone played that, tribal house, etc. But the scale is so much larger and such horrible quality passes for good music, it's really discouraging. It just really irks me, and I think now there's a rift between the old school purists and this new generation (below the age 22-23) that I can't hardly see ever being bridged. Fuck it. Maybe it SHOULD just be a pop genre... Make Korn & Britney Spears remixes. Leave the real underground alone, we were doing fine.

(Ironically I'd rather talk about why AnCo lost their "oomph" after SJ/MPP -- maybe another day )

[SYRFox]

Originally Posted by hypertonic

I'll check it out at some point. Yeah I prefer those types of mixes anyways. Something that takes you somewhere. I usually go through 3 or 4 genres of 4/4 stuff in any given set.

Brostep has just took the making tracks in your underwear on yr laptop with pre-made loops thing to such a disgusting level that its taken the fun out of it around here.. Then you have an uninformed "new" audience that scoffs at house/techno and anything without "wub"s. Goddamn its so fucking irritating... Yeah there’s a lot of DJs in general, but at least most house/4/4 types have played vinyl, learned the classics and where it came from... etc. Maybe some dubstep DJ's do, but around here the tracks are horrible, the mixing skills near non existent, and mostly use the cheapest controller available w/o ever having touched vinyl. This usually happens anytime there's a new fad 'it" genre in underground electronic music. Electro was big for a few years and everyone played that, tribal house, etc. But the scale is so much larger and such horrible quality passes for good music, it's really discouraging. It just really irks me, and I think now there's a rift between the old school purists and this new generation (below the age 22-23) that I can't hardly see ever being bridged. Fuck it. Maybe it SHOULD just be a pop genre... Make Korn & Britney Spears remixes. Leave the real underground alone, we were doing fine.

(Ironically I'd rather talk about why AnCo lost their "oomph" after SJ/MPP -- maybe another day )

eh, keep faith: i'm 21 and i know the underground stuff ahah (i still don't buy vinyl though, but that's for financial reasons - seeing how much i already spend on cds and how little money i have i just can't switch to buying vinyls anytime soon).
anyways, i think the growing gap between skrillex/doctor p/rusko and the likes and modern evolutions of proper dubstep mean that really, the brostep branch has nothing to do with the underground stuff and the whole hardcore continuum anymore, the two worlds don't really connect anymore (apart from a few fools commenting on how shackleton lacks wubwub on youtube, and apart from producers like skream being on both sides of the bridge), so there's no real danger that skrillex and the likes will somehow destroy the underground, i think. if anything, the good shape of nearly every single edm genre (from dubstep - brostep excluded - to minimal to d&b to grime to funky to house to juke/footwork to bass music to whatever) shows that there's no fear to be had - the brostep trend will fade out at some point just like it did for, say, trance. already it seems that moombahton is taking over - though some people still call it "dubstep" because of the wobbles -. at the same time, lhf just released a double-album of all fantastic tunes that somehow manage to refer the whole continuum (you can find hardcore, jungle, garage, old school dubstep, it's all in there) and still do something new - personally i'll just ignore what's being hyped on youtube and enjoy my lhf