[kinn]

Originally Posted by bloodcrystallisetosand

Do any of you think that any of the music is any good? Having - accurately and forcefully - discounted the riot grrl politics as being a bucketful of shite spewed out by indulgent, comfy, white, middle-class teenagers, and, again, the profligacy of 3 chords wonders, do you think that any of the music at all was worth the time of day? For example, I've always quite liked Bikini Kill, not for the politics or the ingenuity but becuase they wrote some fun bouncy songs.

Also, Revolution Bear Style Now is going to take the world by storm!

wuts "muosic"?

[bloodcrystallisetosand]

Originally Posted by kinn

wuts "muosic"?

The thing that them people with smart haircuts and cool clothes make with that weird wood/steel string implement in their hands. Don't quite understand it myself.

[kinn]

bois godu jewpittur git mowar stewpidar
grils gotu mras bcum rokstirs

[tesla69]

I think most of the comments on this thread emphaisze why riot grrl was important, why young women may need a space of their own. what would be described as a "safe" space so they can speak without being mocked and degraded and harassed. I believe the people most widely associated with riot grrl are really the least important, what really counted were all the individual zines and connections that were made, not who ended up as a celebrity or has the most read blog or got hired by some corporation. Maybe because I was a 30 year old man at the time, but riot grrl went right past me, suddenly I was reading about 100's of zines and young women doing their own thing. Intellectually, it probably was light weight, but culturally, absolutely essential - the political counterpoint to the bland, corporate alt-rock.
I saw Bikini Kill play and they were a fucking killer punk band.

[kinn]

that's all fair enough. except it was hardly ME and decayed rhapsody that were standing in the way of females ability to play music in bars.

genteel maybe. but that's just because he wants to be the girl with the most cake.

wasn't it sexist macho heteros they were angry about. i know i don't really care. but it was hardly people like us.

[SONIC GAIL]

hahahahahaha

[tesla69]

Originally Posted by kinn

wasn't it sexist macho heteros they were angry about. i know i don't really care. but it was hardly people like us.

you think so? how old were you in '93?

[kinn]

i was 5

[Genteel Death]

Originally Posted by kinn

that's all fair enough. except it was hardly ME and decayed rhapsody that were standing in the way of females ability to play music in bars.

genteel maybe. but that's just because he wants to be the girl with the most cake.

wasn't it sexist macho heteros they were angry about. i know i don't really care. but it was hardly people like us.

LOL

[Genteel Death]

Originally Posted by kinn

i was 5

Lulz

[Magic Wheel Memory]

Originally Posted by Decayed Rhapsody

I'm left cold by the actual political influence riot grrrl has had. It's seeing a resurgence because all these academic panels are talking about it in a way disproportionate to its effects.

Writers need something to write about and historians need something to historicize about ("Historicize" is not really a word). I think that's why some of these things get blown up to be more significant than they really were.