Microsoft officially release Windows Vista today! - Page 4

next step · 02.01.2007, 12:38 PM

yes infact everyone knows how to play cards on windows. I think I'll add that into my CV! and I'm really good playing HEARTS!

ahah anyway here my 2 stations with my new desktop pictures.

Tokolosh · 02.01.2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by next step

ahah anyway here my 2 stations with my new desktop pictures.

It doesn't look like you're running Linux on any of those?

Is that a Titanium powerbook? That desktop picture looks very cool,
with the photo taken at the right angle.

tesla69 · 02.01.2007, 02:56 PM

from theuk.independent
Vista gives a view of a new world
Internet law professor Michael Geist casts an eye over the fine print in Windows Vista and is concerned at what he finds.

Consumers got their hands on Vista in late January
Vista, the latest version of Microsoft Windows has made its long awaited consumer debut. It incorporates a new, sleek look and such novelties as better search tools and stronger security.
Early reviews have tended to damn the upgrade with faint praise, however, characterising it as the best, most secure version of Windows, yet one that contains few, if any, revolutionary features.
While those reviews have focused chiefly on new functions, for the past few months the legal and technical communities have dug into Vista's "fine print".
Those communities have raised red flags about Vista's legal terms and conditions as well as the technical limitations built in to the software at the insistence of the motion picture industry.
Hard look
The net effect of these concerns may constitute the real Vista revolution as they point to an unprecedented loss of consumer control over their own PCs.
In the name of shielding consumers from computer viruses and protecting copyright owners from potential infringement, Vista seemingly wrestles control of the "user experience" from the user.
Vista's legal fine print includes extensive provisions granting Microsoft the right to regularly check the legitimacy of the software and holds the prospect of deleting certain programs without the user's knowledge.
During the installation process, users "activate" Vista by associating it with a particular computer or device and transmitting certain hardware information directly to Microsoft.
Even after installation, the legal agreement grants Microsoft the right to revalidate the software or to require users to reactivate it should they make changes to their computer components.

For those users frustrated by the software's limitations, Microsoft cautions that "you may not work around any technical limitations in the software".
Vista also incorporates Windows Defender, a security program that actively scans computers for "spyware, adware, and other potentially unwanted software". The agreement does not define any of these terms, leaving it to Microsoft to determine what constitutes unwanted software.

next step · 02.02.2007, 05:30 AM

I use these 2 computers to work and so I had to accept the standard rules and so I cant use Linux. yes it is a powerbook I bought 3y ago, it's already dated but it's okay for other 3y for sure! glad that you like the picture. It was an experiment but I hope to use this idea to do something good.

wax · 02.02.2007, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by next step

yes infact everyone knows how to play cards on windows. I think I'll add that into my CV! and I'm really good playing HEARTS!

ahah anyway here my 2 stations with my new desktop pictures.

ive got that mxbx sticker on my hipflask!
great for these cold nights, swig of brandy to warm the cockles!

!@#$%! · 02.03.2007, 02:20 PM

im seriously considering a) sticking to xp for future shit, b) buying a headless imac. my OLD OLD stuff is in mac format anyway (does anyone here remember the mac classic? ha ha ha. yes.)

about linux, i'll consider switching when installations, drivers, etc, cease to be a Royal Pain in the Fucking Ass. right now for me mac is the "easy linux".

Inhuman · 02.03.2007, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

im seriously considering a) sticking to xp for future shit, b) buying a headless imac. my OLD OLD stuff is in mac format anyway (does anyone here remember the mac classic? ha ha ha. yes.)

about linux, i'll consider switching when installations, drivers, etc, cease to be a Royal Pain in the Fucking Ass. right now for me mac is the "easy linux".

Yeah, The installation is the biggest pain about linux. It takes weeks to perfect it, and then you have to reinstall kernels every once in a while, delete the grub entry, and recreate the master font file every time you install one. It's so so smooth once you have everything perfect, but it takes a lot to maintain.

Dead-Air · 02.04.2007, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!

b) buying a headless imac. my OLD OLD stuff is in mac format anyway (does anyone here remember the mac classic? ha ha ha. yes.)

Make sure if you do that you buy an older iMac to do it with. Don't think you can pick up a new Mac Mini for $400 and do anything with pre-OSX files, because you can't. Mac "Classic" OS doesn't exist in the new intel machines. I'm sure some Mac addict hacker will program an emulator one of these days, but Apple uprgrades their old shit to death faster than McMicrosoft.

I'm no Jobs worshipper, and I agree with those who lambast Apple for putting out hardware product on the market that disintegrates from use. Nonetheless, when it comes to software MS has been chasing Mac from day one, and they continually come up with shit that loves to crash, freeze, reset itself for no reason, and invite every virus ever dreamt of for dinner when it's not busy arguing with security software that makes it crash, freeze, and reset itself for no reason. I'm sure Vista is more of the same.

nicfit · 04.17.2007, 12:54 PM

So, after a few months, how's this OS? Any opinion from regular users?

!@#$%! · 04.17.2007, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Inhuman

Yeah, The installation is the biggest pain about linux. It takes weeks to perfect it, and then you have to reinstall kernels every once in a while, delete the grub entry, and recreate the master font file every time you install one. It's so so smooth once you have everything perfect, but it takes a lot to maintain.

yeah, unfortunately i lack the time for that. was trying gimp for windows just last night & the thought of being stuck in a linux environment is quite terrifying. i used to run a little linux web/ bittorrent server for sonic youth shows (2 years ago i think? a little longer?) & it took me forever to sort shit out.

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Originally Posted by Dead-Air

Make sure if you do that you buy an older iMac to do it with. Don't think you can pick up a new Mac Mini for $400 and do anything with pre-OSX files, because you can't. Mac "Classic" OS doesn't exist in the new intel machines. I'm sure some Mac addict hacker will program an emulator one of these days, but Apple uprgrades their old shit to death faster than McMicrosoft.

I'm no Jobs worshipper, and I agree with those who lambast Apple for putting out hardware product on the market that disintegrates from use. Nonetheless, when it comes to software MS has been chasing Mac from day one, and they continually come up with shit that loves to crash, freeze, reset itself for no reason, and invite every virus ever dreamt of for dinner when it's not busy arguing with security software that makes it crash, freeze, and reset itself for no reason. I'm sure Vista is more of the same.

thanks yea. imy first machine ver was a mac classic & i have things currently stashed in a bondi blue imac w/ os9. the files are just macwrite though. old crappy stuff that probably devoid of literary value & useful only as psychoanalytical material. but i want it around....

im guessing mac write files should still be openable, right? or maybe i'll just export them as DOS files & open w/ some filter in ms office. ha ha.

xp2 is solid & trouble-free for me though. i remember when i had to transition from win2K to xp, it was such a pain! xp home remained shit (I had it on a work machine), but pro was just great & i never missed driver installation w/ win2k.

i'll wait until the dust settles on vista & their first service packages are released.

Torn Curtain · 04.17.2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Inhuman

Pretty much every operating system they created is based on the Windows 98SE kernel, with a few bug fixes.

Not really.

There's two families of Windows:

- Windows 3.X, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows Me
- Windows NT, Windows 2K, Windows XP, Windows 2003 Server and Windows Vista

Inside a family the more recent versions are just evolutions of the previous kernel (so the first family is an evolution of the 3.x kernel while the second one is an evolution of the NT kernel).

Hip Priest · 04.17.2007, 06:01 PM

We had some kind of promo pre-release version of Vista at work last year, and I can tell you for nothing that it was a load of bobbins. Windows XP is fine.

MellySingsDoom · 04.17.2007, 06:34 PM

Can we be the first forum in the world to call on the Windows Vista bullshit? XP works just fine, thank you, Mr Gates.

nicfit · 04.18.2007, 05:43 AM

I love XP sp2, it works just fine, I asked mainly because of the directX 10 support in Vista and the fact that I'm still wondering wether or not to buy a new "branded" pc or assemble a new one with my hands, and almost all the already built ones have Vista Home Premium already installed.

jon boy · 04.18.2007, 05:57 AM

guy i worked with got it and when he uploaded it the first thing it told him was to upgrade.

jon boy · 04.18.2007, 06:06 AM

apparantly microsoft have been losing lots because no one wants it. cant say i feel bad about that.

i think that they think that because scanners, printers etc dont work with vista that we will all buy new ones from them and increase their wallets.

MellySingsDoom · 04.18.2007, 06:13 AM

Nice work, Microsoft - you've given the world an operating system that even the humble ZX Spectrum could better.

nicfit · 04.18.2007, 06:18 AM

You guys are not helping

jico. · 04.18.2007, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by compulsive diarrhea, jico

i much prefer my obsolete irix 6.3 desktop

the best... but yeah.. i use xp very often.

!@#$%! · 04.18.2007, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nicfit

I love XP sp2, it works just fine, I asked mainly because of the directX 10 support in Vista and the fact that I'm still wondering wether or not to buy a new "branded" pc or assemble a new one with my hands, and almost all the already built ones have Vista Home Premium already installed.

build with your own hands, of course!!

that goes without saying bro.

let me suggest....

the ars technica system guide

there are 3 levels: the budget box, the hot rod, & the god box. i've always wanted to build a "god box" he he. but all are pretty good combinations.

this regardless of what OS you pick.

02.01.2007, 12:38 PM	#61
next step the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 583	yes infact everyone knows how to play cards on windows. I think I'll add that into my CV! and I'm really good playing HEARTS! ahah anyway here my 2 stations with my new desktop pictures. __________________ http://www.sonicurbs.com
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02.01.2007, 02:56 PM	#63
tesla69 Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 4,055	from theuk.independent Vista gives a view of a new world Internet law professor Michael Geist casts an eye over the fine print in Windows Vista and is concerned at what he finds. Consumers got their hands on Vista in late January Vista, the latest version of Microsoft Windows has made its long awaited consumer debut. It incorporates a new, sleek look and such novelties as better search tools and stronger security. Early reviews have tended to damn the upgrade with faint praise, however, characterising it as the best, most secure version of Windows, yet one that contains few, if any, revolutionary features. While those reviews have focused chiefly on new functions, for the past few months the legal and technical communities have dug into Vista's "fine print". Those communities have raised red flags about Vista's legal terms and conditions as well as the technical limitations built in to the software at the insistence of the motion picture industry. Hard look The net effect of these concerns may constitute the real Vista revolution as they point to an unprecedented loss of consumer control over their own PCs. In the name of shielding consumers from computer viruses and protecting copyright owners from potential infringement, Vista seemingly wrestles control of the "user experience" from the user. Vista's legal fine print includes extensive provisions granting Microsoft the right to regularly check the legitimacy of the software and holds the prospect of deleting certain programs without the user's knowledge. During the installation process, users "activate" Vista by associating it with a particular computer or device and transmitting certain hardware information directly to Microsoft. Even after installation, the legal agreement grants Microsoft the right to revalidate the software or to require users to reactivate it should they make changes to their computer components. For those users frustrated by the software's limitations, Microsoft cautions that "you may not work around any technical limitations in the software". Vista also incorporates Windows Defender, a security program that actively scans computers for "spyware, adware, and other potentially unwanted software". The agreement does not define any of these terms, leaving it to Microsoft to determine what constitutes unwanted software.
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02.02.2007, 05:30 AM	#64
next step the destroyed room Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 583	I use these 2 computers to work and so I had to accept the standard rules and so I cant use Linux. yes it is a powerbook I bought 3y ago, it's already dated but it's okay for other 3y for sure! glad that you like the picture. It was an experiment but I hope to use this idea to do something good. __________________ http://www.sonicurbs.com
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02.03.2007, 02:20 PM	#66
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,648	im seriously considering a) sticking to xp for future shit, b) buying a headless imac. my OLD OLD stuff is in mac format anyway (does anyone here remember the mac classic? ha ha ha. yes.) about linux, i'll consider switching when installations, drivers, etc, cease to be a Royal Pain in the Fucking Ass. right now for me mac is the "easy linux".
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04.17.2007, 12:54 PM	#69
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	So, after a few months, how's this OS? Any opinion from regular users? __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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04.17.2007, 06:01 PM	#72
Hip Priest invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Birkenhead Posts: 9,397	We had some kind of promo pre-release version of Vista at work last year, and I can tell you for nothing that it was a load of bobbins. Windows XP is fine. __________________ Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. http://www.flickr.com/photos/outsidethecamp/
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04.17.2007, 06:34 PM	#73
MellySingsDoom invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,662	Can we be the first forum in the world to call on the Windows Vista bullshit? XP works just fine, thank you, Mr Gates. __________________ Snow on Easter Sunday - Jesus Christ in reverse.
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04.18.2007, 05:43 AM	#74
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	I love XP sp2, it works just fine, I asked mainly because of the directX 10 support in Vista and the fact that I'm still wondering wether or not to buy a new "branded" pc or assemble a new one with my hands, and almost all the already built ones have Vista Home Premium already installed. __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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04.18.2007, 05:57 AM	#75
jon boy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: psycho battery Posts: 12,161	guy i worked with got it and when he uploaded it the first thing it told him was to upgrade. __________________ Sarcasm[A] is stating the opposite of an intended meaning especially in order to sneeringly, slyly, jest or mock a person, situation or thing \|@ <------- Euphoric brain cell just moments before expiration V _ \ / _ PING <-------- moments later / \ http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljhxq...isruo1_500.gif
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04.18.2007, 06:06 AM	#76
jon boy invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: psycho battery Posts: 12,161	apparantly microsoft have been losing lots because no one wants it. cant say i feel bad about that. i think that they think that because scanners, printers etc dont work with vista that we will all buy new ones from them and increase their wallets. __________________ Sarcasm[A] is stating the opposite of an intended meaning especially in order to sneeringly, slyly, jest or mock a person, situation or thing \|@ <------- Euphoric brain cell just moments before expiration V _ \ / _ PING <-------- moments later / \ http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljhxq...isruo1_500.gif
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04.18.2007, 06:13 AM	#77
MellySingsDoom invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,662	Nice work, Microsoft - you've given the world an operating system that even the humble ZX Spectrum could better. __________________ Snow on Easter Sunday - Jesus Christ in reverse.
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04.18.2007, 06:18 AM	#78
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	You guys are not helping __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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