[Nefeli]

so hmmm there is torrent in piratebay if you are interested
and looks good quality
from the official movie site, my country isnt included but i believe some screening will occur at some point.

now..thinking about watching it tonight.
maybe.



but yeah i ll edit here later of how good of quality that torrent is!

[Nefeli]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

 

 

 

oh whats that movie or what? looks so nice and cool and i know this actress from somewhere. or she looks like an actress i know from somewhere.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

So this is really really good but i see what the grantland review was talking about it being somber, the footage was not but the soundtrack and overall theme seemed not to focus on the fun part of Nirvana and Kurt but rather insinuates tragedy

Also ive seen about 90% of everything in it already but still glad to see it again

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Ok.. the 2nd half with courtney was the hilarious kurt we loved.. the somber depressing bullshit ended.. i hope the mainstream audience who watch this are laughing as much as i am

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

What i liked most about this is it showed how courtney was part of the fun.. because of all the legal drama and because she turned into a cold bitch and villain i think we never got to see how she was part of the antics, the snarky fun, the bullshitting around... this flick really gave me a new insight about their relationship and why it meant so much to Kurt, because she really was perfect for him.

[The Soup Nazi]

The DVD is already out in the UK. In the US, it's scheduled to be released in... November! I wonder if the US version will include extras the UK DVD doesn't feature or something by the like — the cover at least will be different, not that that means jack in itself.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

I didn't think it was quite necessary enough to purchase or own but it was worth watching

[Nefeli]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

Ok.. the 2nd half with courtney was the hilarious kurt we loved.. the somber depressing bullshit ended.. i hope the mainstream audience who watch this are laughing as much as i am

dang

i thought it would be common ground that the 1st half is sad and sweet and the 2nd sad and depressing.
the moment courtney enters and on, its like a major invasion to their private junkie life. raw and real though and thats smth one appreciates.

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

What i liked most about this is it showed how courtney was part of the fun.. because of all the legal drama and because she turned into a cold bitch and villain i think we never got to see how she was part of the antics, the snarky fun, the bullshitting around... this flick really gave me a new insight about their relationship and why it meant so much to Kurt, because she really was perfect for him.

felt more like, although he probably was heading that way, she 'helped' this to happen for real.
aint saying she didnt love him - there are many sweet moments of affection or those notes etc.


also it seemed to me like she and his mother werent sincere during those interviews.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Nefeli

also it seemed to me like she and his mother werent sincere during those interviews.

Yes it did, and considering the drama that has surrounded both those women that was impressive, however I think its because Frances was involved in this, so it was like, "Shit, our daughter/granddaughter is involved so we best to be on our best behavior."

Yes, Courtney was an enabler, but still, there was clearly a natural spark and chemistry between them.

[Bytor Peltor]

Originally Posted by Nefeli

oh whats that movie or what? looks so nice and cool and i know this actress from somewhere. or she looks like an actress i know from somewhere.

^^^she is Sue Heck from ABC's, The Middle.

Courtney Love spent the past couple of days in Houston.

[LifeDistortion]

I saw this the other night. I liked the documentary over all. Yeah it was somewhat of a bummer to watch but I liked that they didn't dwell on the media's immediate response to Kurt's death, like reshowing the footage of Courtney reading the suicide note to the crowd. I enjoyed the animated stuff, and hearing the recordings of Kurt's songs. Hearing all the music as a fan was enjoyable as well. I don't think it reveals anything too unknown about Kurt's character, nothing we didn't already know, although I thought maybe his parents/sister could have talked about his chronic health issues he had. Kurt mentioned them in interviews, stomach issues, bad back, and that was one of the "reasons" he did heroin, so he said. I like that they kept the interviews intimate to the people who knew him best.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

It was overall rather balanced, but i think its cuz Frances was involved so they tried to keep it authentic but tasteful. I just wish it showed more of the fun side of kurt's personality.. i mean even the animations and notebook stuff was kind of played in a darker light than should have. That shit was all the sarcastic fun of a young 20-something, but they kind of presented it all in a negative perspective.

I REALLY like the footage of kurt with baby Frances.. he looked so happy and found a way for that silly side of his personality to have more value, by being that silly dad....

That part made me happy but then also sad to realize the family that was lost too his suicide..

[The Soup Nazi]

 

[LifeDistortion]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

It was overall rather balanced, but i think its cuz Frances was involved so they tried to keep it authentic but tasteful. I just wish it showed more of the fun side of kurt's personality.

I do hear what you're saying about how fun Nirvana were, where most publications like to simplify it with "Kurt hated being famous" they don't see a lot of what they did was thumbing their nose at their own popularity while also pointing a big middle finger to a lot of attitudes that today seem very popular to have such as feminism and anti-homophobia, but back then no famous bands were so out-spoken about them. I mean I like that they used all the media attention to take the piss out of the media nearly any chance they got.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

My favorite was how they totally subverted the mainstream music media process of guest spots, radio sound bites, and interviews. Particularly in 91 when they would make fun of the names of all the music channels and shows by saying things like "Empty TV" or "Golden Shoqers TV".. its like, come on, when if ever has such a popular band so thoroughly mocked the music press and media, and really made fun of themselves so much? It was part of the fun...

[h8kurdt]

Buzz calling the film bullshit

TBH anyone who believed that Courtney only thought about cheating on Kurt is just silly.

[bunnyboyz]

I just watched this last night. I found the footage with Francis to be very disturbing. Its cute at first until you realize Kurt and Courtney are on heroin while there playing with her. Then it gets really sad and made me very angry at them. FRANCIS DESERVES BETTER. I thought Kurdt was smarter than that. But hes not, hes a goddamn idiot. He was no genius. Courtney is lying as usual about not cheating on him. Courtney made a Junkies promise with Kurdt when he was still alive to keep their secret a secret and to never tell anyone. We will never know the truth because Courtney promised Kurdt she would never tell. She will take Kurdts secrets to the grave and never tell anyone. The secret truth about Kurt Cobain he didnt want his fans to know is that the "Real Kurdt" is more like the Courtney Love everybody HATES and nothing like the Kurt Cobain his fans "LOVE". If every Nirvana fan knew who the "real Kurdt" was they would hate him as much as they hate Courtney. If Kim Gordon knew the real kurdt was more like the Courtney Love she hates she wouldnt want to know him or be protective of him. Kurt was living a double life and the truth was he was just like Courtney and the "Kurt" he played to fans never really existed. The Kurt he pretended to be to Sonic Youth was never the real kurt. Courtney is the only person who knew the real kurt. People ask what did Kurt see in Courtney? And my answer to that is ? HIMSELF !!!! Kurt saw HIMSELF in Courtney in a way no one else did. They were an IDENTICAL MATCH. The media tried to play it off like Opposites Attract. That was total bullshit. They were just like each other. Kurt was just as horrible, selfish, greedy, shallow, superficial, arrogant, and self loathing as Courtney was but he never gets blamed for it because hes so SUCCESSFUL !!! It sickens me how everyone turned a blind eye to his behavior because of his success. Courtney always takes the blame when Kurt was just as irresponsible and shitty as she was. Courtney played the villain so he could live a double life. She went along with the "myth" to cover up his double life of being just as horrible as her. This documentary disposes the "myths" and shows how horrible kurt really was. Kurt is really Courtney on a drug binge u dont want to deal with. There goes the fucking myths out the fucking window. Kim Gordon's book perpetuates Kurts myth as being a patron saint and Courtney the villain. The truth is Kim never really knew the real kurt and the real kurt was worse than Courtney. Only Courtney saw the real kurt we will never see. Courtney is the only person he could be himself around and not Kim Gordon. Kim Gordon fell for the myth just like every Nirvana fan in the world. I find her depiction of Kurt to be too similar to the myth he really wasnt.

[gmku]

Look at you with your insider info!

Kurt would have hated this thread.

I miss King Buzzo's postings here. Maybe he's too busy with the Melvins.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Kurt and courtney were indeed very much alike, but he was always more the smart ass to her bing the vindictive one.

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

Kurt and courtney were indeed very much alike, but he was always more the smart ass to her bing the vindictive one.

However similar they may have been, my impression is it wasn't just smartass vs. vindictive, but smart vs. moronic. On the other hand, there was also that comment by Kurt on the liner notes to some versions of Incesticide, in which he called Courtney "the supreme example of dignity, ethics and honesty". As Nirvana fans know, I did not make that shit up...