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Old 03.13.2007, 10:50 PM   #61
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what some feminists do not want to realize is the fact that a lot of human behavior is genetic, not socially learned, so no matter how much you tweak society biology is going to win the day. maoism is a failure.

having said that-- there is a lot that has changed from 90 years ago. much of it has to do with biology: birth control has done more for women than any social policy.

just look at the situation w/ college eduction & you'll realize what's going on. please read:
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that wasn't the case no no it wsn't 90 years ago because of all the barriers.

i rest my case.
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Old 03.13.2007, 10:51 PM   #62
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I have to agree with him. Biology does affect us in a big way.
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Old 03.13.2007, 10:57 PM   #63
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I have to agree with him. Biology does affect us in a big way.

tell that to a humanities person and they'll call you a fascist. they believe their bodies are nothing but "texts" that can be rewritten almost at will. goddamn fuckheads!
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Old 03.13.2007, 10:57 PM   #64
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yu crackas

what some feminists do not want to realize is the fact that a lot of human behavior is genetic, not socially learned, so no matter how much you tweak society biology is going to win the day. maoism is a failure.

having said that-- there is a lot that has change from 90 years ago. much of it has to do with biology: birth control has done more for women than any social policy.

just look at the situation w/ college eduction & you'll realize what's going on. please read:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/09/education/09college.html?ex=1310097600&en=cd9efba2e9595dec&e i=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

that wasn't the case no no it wsn't 90 years ago because of all the barriers.

i rest my case.

like i said, we're basically in the same situation with different specifics. when you look at the big picture and focus less on the minute details, nothing much has changed.
yr right about the biology thing, i agree 100%. biology can only be controlled in a small way.
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Old 03.13.2007, 11:00 PM   #65
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like i said, we're basically in the same situation with different specifics. when you look at the big picture and focus less on the minute details, nothing much has changed.

ssplain, ssplain...
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Old 03.13.2007, 11:04 PM   #66
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ssplain, ssplain...
women are still treated as inferior to men in a lot of respects. yeah, we have the right to vote, etc etc etc, all that boring historical bullshit. but pharmacists still refuse to fill prescriptions for birth control, yet will duly write up a script for viagra. special TV networks exist in accordance to stereotypical female or male interests. in a rape trial, they won't prosecute the defendant a lot of times because the woman was wearing a mini dress and high heels, therefore she was asking for it. the list goes on and on and i find talking feminist politics to be really boring and tedious but you get the idea.
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Old 03.13.2007, 11:12 PM   #67
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women are still treated as inferior to men in a lot of respects. yeah, we have the right to vote, etc etc etc, all that boring historical bullshit. but pharmacists still refuse to fill prescriptions for birth control, yet will duly write up a script for viagra. special TV networks exist in accordance to stereotypical female or male interests. in a rape trial, they won't prosecute the defendant a lot of times because the woman was wearing a mini dress and high heels, therefore she was asking for it. the list goes on and on and i find talking feminist politics to be really boring and tedious but you get the idea.

shurr, shurr. but you're standing on the shoulders of giants so to speak. what you see is small potatos comparatively. go ask sylvia pankhurst or for that matter even jeanne d'arc.

there are anti-men stereotypes too though, like presuming that all domestic violence is carried out by men. go google & see if you find anything else.

but hm on the initial subject (im not trying to "defend men" here) the religious pharmacists are useless unproffesional fucking turds that should be shot.

oh did you ever read the yellow wallpaper? what was that book... check it out.

any case currently 58% of college students are women so expect some big changes soon.
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Old 03.13.2007, 11:13 PM   #68
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there are anti-men stereotypes too though, like presuming that all domestic violence is carried out by men. go google & see if you find anything else.
i hate that one. if any domestic violence is going down in my house i'm the one doing the beating. that stereotype says something about women too; namely that they're delicate (therefore they wouldn't be the ones throwing down), need to be put in their place by a man.
domestic violence instigated by men is recognized as something really deplorable because of the notion that has been drilled into the brains of every male forever and ever: never hit a girl (presumably because you're supposed to treat her like a lady and not an equal, and that women/girls/whatever are incapable of defending themselves.)
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Old 03.13.2007, 11:15 PM   #69
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i hate that one. if any domestic violence is going down in my house i'm the one doing the beating.

(and) i pity the fool...
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Old 03.13.2007, 11:16 PM   #70
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Old 03.13.2007, 11:21 PM   #71
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oh. that. it's conveniently twisted to make men pay no matter what goes down.

there's another one: that men are the sole perpetrators of sexual harassment. oh, that got me into trouble! i was once in a delicate work situation and i didn't budge, but i had to take a lot of shit because of some fucking "cowboy code" from the XIX century. fuck that!
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Old 03.13.2007, 11:23 PM   #72
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Feminism still exists! It is just more relevant in other countries. Such as Iran

iraq is a fuckhole of a dump when it comes to sexual politics. a fucking medieval concentration camp. let's please add afghanistan to the list.
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Old 03.13.2007, 11:23 PM   #73
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oh. that. it's conveniently twisted to make men pay no matter what goes down.

there's another one: that men are the sole perpetrators of sexual harassment. oh, that got me into trouble! i was once in a delicate work situation and i didn't budge, but i had to take a lot of shit because of some fucking "cowboy code" from the XIX century. fuck that!
it's all twisted to make women look like the victim in every situation and to make men look like the big bad motherfucking wolf. that's politics.
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Old 03.13.2007, 11:31 PM   #74
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it's all twisted to make women look like the victim in every situation and to make men look like the big bad motherfucking wolf. that's politics.

that was a sharp motherfucking observation. is it original or are you quoting? im seriously asking because it rarely happens that im impressed in this goddamned board.
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Old 03.13.2007, 11:32 PM   #75
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that was a sharp motherfucking observation. is it original or are you quoting? im seriously asking because it rarely happens that im impressed in this goddamned board.

it's an original. serial no. 45435847 A.

no im not quoting.
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Old 03.13.2007, 11:34 PM   #76
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it's an original. serial no. 45435847 A.

no im not quoting.

then you better go & make something of your life or i'll personally go & kick your ass for having wasted your brains. you may know kungfu, but i'll catch you by surprise-- it's a promise.
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Yeah, and watch out Cantanky, that pervert will catch you from BEHIND.


not to get all tears eliot, but that wasn't it at all, you filthy-minded corrupter of children

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I would too mind! !@#$%!'s cock is huge, just like his ego. His wife told me.

in that case my ego is "nice & thick" (a hispanic trait)

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promise. and i don't know kung fu but i would take you on any day.
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