[Danny Himself]

Originally Posted by EMMAh

I've been to a lot of really bad shows.

The worst was probably Dragon Force.

We go to Montreal with people going to the show, but make it as clear as we possibly can that we are not fucking going into the show. We just wanted to walk around Montreal and take pictures But no, we were literally forced into the show and forced to watch a sea of Slipknot shirted people go nuts for a lame ass band.

Aahahah, poor you. A couple of my friends love that band and it's insufferable..

[viewtiful_alan]

That band is so fucking awful... the guitar player really isn't even very good.. but no one seems to understand that concept

[Everyneurotic]

i think wolf eyes now ranks as one of the worst shows i've ever seen, mostly for the high expectations i had.

[acousticrock87]

Originally Posted by viewtiful_alan

That band is so fucking awful... the guitar player really isn't even very good.. but no one seems to understand that concept

Dragonforce is a horribly boring obnoxious band, but how do you figure the guitarists aren't that good?

[viewtiful_alan]

I think any guitar player that puts technique above actual sound, style, and song to be horrible.
That means you yngwie malmsteen.

[Everyneurotic]

i love dragonforce because they are one of the most obnoxious bands ever.

[viewtiful_alan]

Well they are that...

[acousticrock87]

Yeah, but one thing to remember about people like Yngwie is that they do have a style, and they're very good at it. That style just happens to be incredibly boring.

They're performers, not composers, but composition is a seperate category. They're incredibly talented at the actual guitar part.

Also, Yngwie plays classical music, which is complex even stylistically. It's just that, again, it's boring.

[Everyneurotic]

anyone can play like yngwie malmsteen if they practiced scales with a metronome every day for like five years and did nothing else.

it's technique and nothing more, really.

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

i think wolf eyes now ranks as one of the worst shows i've ever seen, mostly for the high expectations i had.

that's a shame, usually they are fantastic live. i've seen them be crap too, but it was the venue's fault, not their's.

[radarmaker]

There's 3 gigs that I've walked out of because they were that fucking awful I couldn't bear to stay another minute: Miss Black America, Maximo Park & Art Brut. And I've also seen a really shit Dylan gig. And whoever called the Delgados boring deserves a hefty boot up the ass. So there.

[acousticrock87]

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

anyone can play like yngwie malmsteen if they practiced scales with a metronome every day for like five years and did nothing else.

it's technique and nothing more, really.

But that's like saying anyone can play like Yo-Yo Ma if they practiced. It may be true, but it still means he's good. And not many people do.

[Everyneurotic]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

that's a shame, usually they are fantastic live. i've seen them be crap too, but it was the venue's fault, not their's.

nate young had some trouble with his rig that got sorted out halfway through, but overall, i was waiting to be blown away but it never happened.

it wasn't that bad, i was speaking in accordance to my expectations, which were quite high, i should've just gone there without expecting much. it was pretty laid back, actually.

mike connelly is cool as hell though.

Originally Posted by acousticrock87

But that's like saying anyone can play like Yo-Yo Ma if they practiced. It may be true, but it still means he's good. And not many people do.

no, because there's other aspects to being good, one of the major ones being "feel" and malmsteen communicates nothing with his precise playing, whether other technically-proficient players might bring their own flavour while being impeccable at the same time.

[Toilet & Bowels]

i saw this news clip the other day about a 13 year old kid who is like ywingwe junior and he was making £70/hour from busking, but to my ear his playing had no feeling whatsoever and was straight out of the guitar textbook.

[Everyneurotic]

ha...i guess, i would have made a pretty dime had i stuck to the two hour practice sessions of sweep picking.

[acousticrock87]

I'm not saying he's the best guitarist by any means, or that accuracy and technical skill are the most important parts of playing. I just don't think it's valid to say he's "not a good guitarist".

[Everyneurotic]

he's technically a good player, but hardly great or unique, which is why i said anyone could play like him if they practiced as hard as he does.

[acousticrock87]

Haha. I think we're just talking about different aspects of guitar playing, but are mostly in agreement on both.

[atsonicpark]

Dragonforce make really good music... the vocals are pretty much the only part of the band that is kind of irritating, and their whole concept is ridiculous but if you actually focus on the music itself it's quite consistently amazing.

Worst show I saw was probably Q and Not U right after (like 2 days after) they lost their bass player.. they were playing all these old songs with either no bass or missing a guitar line and lemme tell you.. you do not want to hear a Q and Not U song with no bass, and the most interesting part of that band to me was the 2 guitars. They also kept playing all these new songs that no one liked, and on the old songs their fans randomly clapped and yelled "WHOO" at random parts. At the time it seemed kinda fun and the venue was really cool but the show itself sucked.

[Cantankerous]

Originally Posted by viewtiful_alan

When was it?
I saw him in 06 or 05 and thought he was quite good.

2006

on 4/20 actually, even though i was about as stoned as you could get, it was to date the shittiest show out of probably hundreds of shows i have ever seen in my life.