[Onani Nic]

One place I don't think anyone mentioned yet is New Zealand. From the little amount I own their take on drone/experimental music and indie rock (or whatever you'd call a band like the clean) is really great.

[demonrail666]

It al depends what type of music you're talking about.

For me, the countries that've made the greatest contribution to the following styles are:

'Classic Rock': Britain.

Alt. Rock: America.

Noise/psych rock: Japan.

Country/Blues: America.

Jazz: America.

Metal: Britain.

Pop: Britain.

Singer/Songwriter: America.

House/Disco/Funk/Rap: America.

Everything else: Global.





















































But because Britain produced The Fall, it wins.

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

i almost can't listen to merzbow and that sort of stuff because it's so completely dischordant and lacks structure.

i totally disagree, i think merzbow's music is very structured, i guess it depends which record you listen to, but when he does structured stuff nobody else making noise can come close to him

[A Thousand Threads]

Kraut


Just sayin'

[Cantankerous]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

i totally disagree, i think merzbow's music is very structured, i guess it depends which record you listen to, but when he does structured stuff nobody else making noise can come close to him

i suppose you're right, you'd know more about merzbow. i think what i meant was that it lacks melody and is extremely harsh.

[Everyneurotic]

music doesn't just come from england or the u.s.

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

i suppose you're right, you'd know more about merzbow. i think what i meant was that it lacks melody and is extremely harsh.

that's true, although it wouldn't surprise me if he's done something that has some kind of semblance of melody. either way, if you don't like him it doesn't really matter.

[Pookie]

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

music doesn't just come from england or the u.s.

No, but everything else is just copied from UK/US music.

[Cantankerous]

Originally Posted by Pookie

No, but everything else is just copied from UK/US music.

yeah, those tribal africans TOTALLY ripped off robert johnson.
fucking copycats.

Originally Posted by Pookie

No, but everything else is just copied from UK/US music.

So I assume The Beatles went to Brick Lane and not India to nick a few ideas for their records, right?

[soapbars]

the fall are english

enough said

[demonrail666]

Pookie's right though. Most of the music most of the people here listen to from countries outside the US and UK is just exotic versions of US/American alternative rock - or can at least be traced directly to its Anglo-American origins. (And I stress the use of the word most).

[the ikara cult]

leaving aside experimental/leftfield music, if you look at your meat and potatoes "Indie" then the situation with british guitar music is about as bad as its possible to be, ive totally stopped listening to the radio now because the only things ive found to be anything other than excruciating over the last 2/3 years have been Arctic monkeys Klaxons and maximo park. like, ONE decent band a year. comparitavely America seems to have alot more variety to offer, expecially thanks to the internet.
Again i stress im referring to the indie-rock-guitar-pop side of things.

If you talk specifically about rock or pop music and this forum, you'd be right, and in fact I've never been too keen on many rock n roll or pop bands that haven't got an american/anglosaxon blueprint on them, but then there's a huge wealth of electronic music (from early experiments to Industrial, glitch etc) or modern compositional music (something that the English are particularly bad at) that has little to do with rock and pop. Traditional folk, jazz, you name it.It depends on what your tastes are like and more specifically the degree of interest in music that you have in general, simple as that. Personally I find that the Japanese rock out better than both the Americans and the Britsh put together, these days. The Australians or the New Zelanders also come up with interesting variants of the rock formula sometimes. But if push came to shove and I had to choose between UK or USA, the Americans win hands down, if only because the sheer size of the place has made it possible for so much good music to come out of it over the years. There's also the age-old story that way too much British music happened simply because either the press or the sheep that took it too seriously felt that things that haven't changed the musical landscape as much as first thought, HAD to happen, rather than let things happen naturally. Ultimately music can be one those things that can age rapidly or aquire a timeless status like anything of variable quality, but the Americans (with its sheer number of ethnics,traditions and sceneries) have much more to choose from. And let's face it, the Americans don't brag half as much as the English about their own achievements, that's something that I have noticed on a number of occasions, be it on this forum or elsewhere.

edit - Pookie and demonrail666

[Everyneurotic]

all english speaking countries should be bombed clean.

[sonicl]

Using Mexican munitions, I hope.

[Pookie]

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

all english speaking countries should be bombed clean.

Then where would all the other countries steal their music ideas from?

[Everyneurotic]

i don't know, ask your country men.

i mean, they didn't steal them from immigrnats from other countries, did them?

[m^a(t)h]

italy italy italy italy italy italy italy

[Пятхъдесят Шест]

Originally Posted by sarramkrop

I was thinking about Chinese leftfield, experimental, avantgarde music or whatever you wanna call it, when I wrote that. I still have a feeling that, perhaps, there are records from other continents out there that have yet to surface and they will give us a clearer picture of what's happening or happened

I'm so glad the two of you mentioned China.

China has the potential (and people) to revolutionize everything in the next ten to twenty years, and this includes music. We might as well throw India into the mix as well, the advancement of Eastern European countries (albeit at a much slower pace) should factor into the future of music and art too.

This is sort of off topic.