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Old 02.24.2009, 07:28 PM   #61
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Old 02.24.2009, 07:38 PM   #62
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Old 02.24.2009, 07:52 PM   #63
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Pity Valerie Solanas wasn't even an artist, as much as she would tell you she was. Really, how can you even criticise when all you do is that, criticise?
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Old 02.24.2009, 07:53 PM   #64
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fuck a venue, these people dance in the street and they are better than she will ever be

yes but if they didnt apply for the grant in the first place, they weren't going to get it, not matter who is.. better.
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Old 02.24.2009, 07:55 PM   #65
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I'm not even getting into a discussion about it 'cause you're talking nonsense, but I have it from someone in Melbourne that the art 'scene' there and the one in London are as similar to each other and are as nonsense as nonsense could be.

So your someone in Melbourne's opinion is more valid than my someone in Melbourne?

What is nonsensical about it, honestly?
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Old 02.24.2009, 07:56 PM   #66
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Because at the moment it seems like you'd rather have a room of 5 people watching a show because they're the only ones that 'get it', over 500 people watching a show because they might not 'get it' but they still 'enjoy it'.

What is the problem? Art doesnt have to be elitist. If you have that attitude preventing you from participating then that is your own issue, not everyone elses.
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Old 02.24.2009, 08:39 PM   #71
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Pity Valerie Solanas wasn't even an artist, as much as she would tell you she was. Really, how can you even criticise when all you do is that, criticise?


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Old 02.24.2009, 09:01 PM   #72
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Pity Valerie Solanas wasn't even an artist, as much as she would tell you she was. Really, how can you even criticise when all you do is that, criticise?

didn't she write a play that andy warhol "lost" and she accused him of stealing?

im not coming out in her defense, but she's the cultural hero of a number of feminazis.

i was just wondering if t&b was gonna shoot anyone, though.
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Old 02.24.2009, 10:33 PM   #73
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i'm against arts funding, i wonder how many of you have seen the type of moldy food they give out at the shelters? but i don't really want anyone receiving money for their wanky project while millions of people are living like garbage

private funding is great, i wish i had a couple million to hand out myself, but government grants are keeping money from people who truly need it and are increasing the public's reliance on the government
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Old 02.24.2009, 10:57 PM   #74
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I doubt you would want to increase welfare spending with that money as well.
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Old 02.24.2009, 11:23 PM   #75
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i'm against arts funding, i wonder how many of you have seen the type of moldy food they give out at the shelters? but i don't really want anyone receiving money for their wanky project while millions of people are living like garbage

private funding is great, i wish i had a couple million to hand out myself, but government grants are keeping money from people who truly need it and are increasing the public's reliance on the government
What's the difference between government grants and private funding if you're worried about who's getting paid enough?
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Old 02.24.2009, 11:29 PM   #76
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What's the difference between government grants and private funding if you're worried about who's getting paid enough?


because the government takes money from everybody and has a responsibility to use it appropriately, the difference with private funding is that it's a persons own money and they can do whatever the fuck they like with it
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Old 02.25.2009, 09:43 AM   #77
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fuck a venue, these people dance in the street and they are better than she will ever be

they also don;t charge admission, crunkkkk
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i'm against arts funding, i wonder how many of you have seen the type of moldy food they give out at the shelters? but i don't really want anyone receiving money for their wanky project while millions of people are living like garbage

private funding is great, i wish i had a couple million to hand out myself, but government grants are keeping money from people who truly need it and are increasing the public's reliance on the government
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US government money that goes to arts funding equals less than 30 cents a year per person in the USA.

the amount that goes into food stamps and welafre and food programs for indigent and homeless is a hundred times that at least

why you complaining?
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Old 02.25.2009, 09:48 AM   #79
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because the government takes money from everybody and has a responsibility to use it appropriately, the difference with private funding is that it's a persons own money and they can do whatever the fuck they like with it

the government takes money from everyone and uses it for eeryone.

if you choose not to see the art show, or the play or the dance being performed at your local civic center that's your issue.
they will still use most of it to build roads, sewers, electrical grids, etc. stuff that all people use, but by your logic, if people exis who do not use the interstate highway system (and there are hundreds of thousands if not millions who do not) then we should stop fuinding the roads?
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yes but if they didnt apply for the grant in the first place, they weren't going to get it, not matter who is.. better.

My problem isn't necessarily with people applying for funding (I've done it myself) it's when they seem to exist solely for that purpose. There are people who treat getting grants like a full-time job. I work with a few of them and they're easily some of the most worthless, self-obsessed people I've ever met. Bureaucrats with easels.
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