[DeadDiscoDildo]

^^yr Midwest is showing atsonicpark. Put that away.

[fugazifan]

Originally Posted by Kuwa_Slayne

Stereolab - "Mars Audiac Quintet"

Despite the list, I still enjoy these artists' later work, but it just doesn't hold up as well.

you dont think emperor tomato ketchup hold up as well (MAQ is my favorite of theirs, but still...)?

[atsonicpark]

Y'know, I put on Emperor Tomato Ketchup on for the first time in forever the other day. I think it's definitely one of their weaker releases.

[gmku]

I disagree with the OP's Some Girls recommendation. The Stones shoulda stopped with Exile. My youth would have been much different without them the rest of the 70s, but for their own sake, they should have stopped.

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by gmku

I disagree with the OP's Some Girls recommendation. The Stones shoulda stopped with Exile. My youth would have been much different without them the rest of the 70s, but for their own sake, they should have stopped.

Fair enough but I'm sort of surprised you said that. I agree that nothing they produced after Exile quite matched it (it's debatable that anything up to it did either) but I still think the Stones were a viable force in the 70s. It's possible to say that they even made sense up to Undercover - but not, I'd say, after that.

As for them needing to split up after Exile 'for their own sake', are you saying that Goats Head Soup somehow damaged their credibility?

[gmku]

Well, I don't want to overthink this, but as a fan, I feel the Stones basically dissolved after Goats Head Soup when they pushed Taylor away. The Stones became Mick and Keith, and often even they weren't working well as a team or partnership or whatever. Keith became more and more of a junky and the writing suffered for it.

Goats Head has decent enough songs, but you can tell it was largely Mick's album.

[demonrail666]

I suppose I was looking at them more in terms of relevance. Some Girls sort of re-invented them as a kind of Disco-Rock thing, which is probably why, if anything, my original choice should've maybe been Undercover. After that album though they really did dissolve into the irrelevant circus we see them as today. I do see what you're saying though in terms of the emphasis on Mick after Exile.

[gmku]

Don't get me wrong. I was a diehard fan all through the 70s. I bought every album and was really into collecting their boots. I bought multiple copies of Some Girls (b/c of the cover variations). But I remember feeling like my love for the band was only riding on my memory of how great they once were, and on this vain hope that with the next new album surely "they would get it right this time."

I feel that after Exile they stopped anticipating and shaping trends and simply started following them, or worse, simply rehashed what they'd already done. Even with Some Girls, they were just reacting to punk and were certainly not doing anything new for it.

And in light of everything new that was going on--the whole NYC scene with Television, the Dolls, Patti Smith--they seemed so out of touch.

They also stopped being an American r&b band. What made the Taylor period so phenomenal was that they became this really tight r&b band. They really did swing. And they let other influences in too, like gospel and country. They just seemed to shut all that down after Exile and become this closed little corporate band that seemed too tired or too indifferent to keep experiementing and growing.

[gmku]

But now see, you've made me overthink this. And now I have a headache. I need to go out and get some fresh air, wander around downtown and sip some wine outside or something. It's too nice to be indoors at the 'puter y'all.

[demonrail666]

I concocted some enormously convoluted weed induced response to this that somehow managed to suggest that Black and Blue was a superior album to Sticky Fingers. Needless to say, having just read it back, it was a crock of nonsense - so I deleted it with a far more reasonable response: you're right (both in terms of the stones, and the weather).

[Toilet & Bowels]

if i had superpowers i'd go back in time and grant the rolling stones the ability to differentiate between good and bad so that they'd knock it on the head after their first practice.

[Count Mecha]

 

I would say Entroducing. But there are tracks here I like, hated The Outsider though.

[gmku]

Originally Posted by demonrail666

I concocted some enormously convoluted weed induced response to this that somehow managed to suggest that Black and Blue was a superior album to Sticky Fingers. Needless to say, having just read it back, it was a crock of nonsense - so I deleted it with a far more reasonable response: you're right (both in terms of the stones, and the weather).

This is your brain. (Sticky Fingers > Black & Blue)

This is your brain on drugs. (Black & Blue > Sticky Fingers)

Just sayin.

[Theremin]

 

Obviously.

 

Sure, there was some pretty great stuff after that, but nothing as classic.

 

[gmku]

Desire was not great. Desire sucked. Dylan should have stopped after Blonde on Blonde.

[Theremin]

Originally Posted by gmku

Desire was not great. Desire sucked. Dylan should have stopped after Blonde on Blonde.

No way, Desire is one of his best, gotta love the laid back gypsy-esque vibe on it. Blonde on blonde on the other hand is (while being pretty solid) probably my least favorite Dylan-classic.

[Tickerwelly]

Yeah Desire is definitely one of his best. Isis is actually my favorite Dylan song ever.

[DeadDiscoDildo]

Bob Dylan is pretentious, fuck em.

[Tickerwelly]

pre·ten·tious

ADJECTIVE:

1. Claiming or demanding a position of distinction or merit, especially when unjustified

Nope.

[DeadDiscoDildo]

His lyrics were pretentious and preachy at times. He had some good moments. But overall he was just a dude who spoke about shit like he had seen it all, before he had seen it all. He's lucky he got to see it all.

As bad as some early beatles lyrics were, at least they were just singing about fucking on speed, it was legit, and didnt start getting all preachy until they did lsd in india.