[E. Noisefield]

Originally Posted by louder

Kanye's music is better than any of the "swag" rappers you guys always hype up for a short while, then say they suck a couple of months later when it ain't so cool to like them anymore (*cough* first OF, now A$AP & Lil B)..

I'm no hip-hop expert, but I think Kanye sucks. Apart from his obviously meticulous and bombastic production, I see very little in that guy to like.

Granted, I've not heard A$AP or B. Probably better off.

[louder]

Originally Posted by E. Noisefield

I'm no hip-hop expert, but I think Kanye sucks. Apart from his obviously meticulous and bombastic production, I see very little in that guy to like.

Granted, I've not heard A$AP or B. Probably better off.

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Pure X - Pleasure
Bill Callahan - Apocalypse
Braids - Native Speaker
Tim Hecker - Ravedeath 1972
Psychic Paramount - II
Wild Flag - S/T
Sun Araw - Ancient Romans
Thee Oh Sees - Carrion Crawler/the Dream
Steve Hauschildt - Tragedy & Geometry
PJ Harvey - Let England Shake

Probably made my favourite records from this year

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Echo Lake - Young Silence EP
The Field - Looping State of Mind
Holy Other - With U
Nicolas Jaar - Space is Only Noise
Pink Reason - Shit in the Garden
The Dum Dum Girls released some great singles

[noisereductions]

[quote=E. Noisefield]I'm no hip-hop expert, [quote]

why do you say that?

I think Kanye sucks.

oh. I see. You're right. You're not a hip hop expert.

[nicfit]

http://www.supernaturalcat.com/Morbo.html

[E. Noisefield]

[quote=noisereductions][quote=E. Noisefield]I'm no hip-hop expert,

why do you say that?



oh. I see. You're right. You're not a hip hop expert.

No expert, but definitely a fan. I love hip-hop actually, and listen to it more than any genre. But I can't call myself an expert because I haven't put the attention into learning the names of band members, collecting rarities/mixtapes, and cascading my wall with images as I do with my post-punk derived comfort music.

But I fuckin' love hip-hop, and my tastes are pretty varied. Still....

Kanye West is a spectacle. His most recent was his best, and I agree that it was one of the better hip-hop albums of 2010, but his other shit is bogus and he's an ego driven rock star and I'm not into that unless there's irony involved.

Nothing against the guy, I just don't like his music and I think it's boring and lifeless and (gasp) worse than Eminem. Infinite and Slim }Shady at least.

His vids are reminiscent of Michael Jackson. That's kinda cool, but the fact hat it's been done removes the novelty of the idea.

I just don't dig him. There are three basic ways to be a brilliant hip-hop artists: 1) MC skills 2) originality of concepts and presentation 3) Particular relevance to the current time and place 4) super good production.

Kanye's got one of those, and a God complex. Bummer.

[louder]

lol?? Ye is a Dark-Horse for GOAT contention.
rule #1: he NEVER makes a bad album.

1) College Dropout & Late Registration are classics, and arguably even better than My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. doubt you've heard them.
2) Graduation is one of the best pop-rap albums.
3) 808's & Heartbreak is one of the most influental albums in the last few years.
4) Watch the Throne is his worst album rapping-wise, but still has some of the best production i've heard & Jay fucking freaks out on a few tracks.

Weezy used to be the king from 2004-2008. his last few features have already been much better & shown a spark of C3 Wayne.. he actually changes his music every year so let's hope C4 was just an accident & he'll make a comeback with Dedication 4 or I Can't Feel My Face.

inb4NRclaimingWaynehasneverfallenoff.

[louder]

Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

Like Fun House. How cliche. A Sonic Youth fan that like the stooges. How typical. Maybe Dinosaur Jr. Sebadoh. Pixies. Kurt Fobane. No, that's even more fuckin obvious.

hahahaha

[louder]

gonna bless the world with a new thread about Wayne now.

[Derek]

Hey foreverkissass I have the most rep on this entire board so I don't get where you're going with that neg rep

[louder]

Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

Graduation is the only one i heard, besides a little of Dark Twisted Fantasy, and it's good. maybe i'll check out the rest of his stuff in the near future.

i dare to compare him to SY in the sense that he keeps re-inventing himself with each album. truly one of the greatest pop icons we have left anymore.

[stu666]

Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

how do you know this. do the moderators inform you? if there are any.

http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/mem...putation&pp=30

[noisereductions]

Originally Posted by louder

lol?? Ye is a Dark-Horse for GOAT contention.
rule #1: he NEVER makes a bad album.

1) College Dropout & Late Registration are classics, and arguably even better than My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. doubt you've heard them.
2) Graduation is one of the best pop-rap albums.
3) 808's & Heartbreak is one of the most influental albums in the last few years.
4) Watch the Throne is his worst album rapping-wise, but still has some of the best production i've heard & Jay fucking freaks out on a few tracks.

Weezy used to be the king from 2004-2008. his last few features have already been much better & shown a spark of C3 Wayne.. he actually changes his music every year so let's hope C4 was just an accident & he'll make a comeback with Dedication 4 or I Can't Feel My Face.

inb4NRclaimingWaynehasneverfallenoff.

lol.

I agree w you on Kanye though. Anyone who says he is not ridiculously talented hasn't paid enough attention.

[Mortte Jousimo]

Originally Posted by Derek

Look you haven't been here long so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt but some time ago this forum was actually a hotbed for discussion with Glice, atsonicpark, n'ik and others firing on all cyclinders about all sorts of topics. Slowly this wave of users died out and now this forum is a mangled corpse for whatever new user decides to sign up and make assertions about whatever generic topic someone who likes Sonic Youth would discuss.

And this isn't a 'gtfo noob' post either, I'm a relatively new member in the context of the board's history but the users replacing the old members are subpar and much like new episodes of the Simpsons, I can't help but criticize it again and again.

The way I see this (yes, I have been here also quite short time) here´s been members who think they´re better (more intellectual?) than others and there has been also members who have believed that. And those who don´t want to obey those "better" members will be soon attacked in some way. It´s not just me, they have attacked also the persons who have lot more information about the music than I have.

If you really think we new ones are so stupid, why don´t you go somewhere more intellectual gossib? Or why don´t you send private posts so you don´t have to read any "stupid" posts? Or then you can start a thread with title "For the intellectual members only" you can bet I won´t read it. I don´t have any need to discuss anything with you, Glice or Genteel Death. But I will be here as long as Sonic Youth exists, if they split, then I go away.

[Genteel Death]

Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo

The way I see this (yes, I have been here also quite short time) here´s been members who think they´re better (more intellectual?) than others and there has been also members who have believed that. And those who don´t want to obey those "better" members will be soon attacked in some way. It´s not just me, they have attacked also the persons who have lot more information about the music than I have.

If you really think we new ones are so stupid, why don´t you go somewhere more intellectual gossib? Or why don´t you send private posts so you don´t have to read any "stupid" posts? Or then you can start a thread with title "For the intellectual members only" you can bet I won´t read it. I don´t have any need to discuss anything with you, Glice or Genteel Death. But I will be here as long as Sonic Youth exists, if they split, then I go away.

In many ways you're really right. But, you know, this is also some forum on the internet, so fuck right off. And merry xmas.

[SonicBebs]

some people like to fuck, some people like to be fucked

[Mortte Jousimo]

I have anything against anybody here. This is free forum where anybody can be. But if I understood correct, Derek just said the quality of discussions have gone lower and he thinks it´s new members fault. So in the internet world I think it is quite easy to put up a group where only qualified can come, if the discussions here irratates so much. I don´t like people who like to complain all the time.

I think he also said if the member just like Sonic Youth it isn´t enough here. I think it is the only reason to be here, isn´t this Sonic Youth Gossib? I have been wondering why some people are here when they haven´t liked Sonic Youth for years. If the reason isn´t they want to play sick social games, tell me what it is?

[SpaceCadetHayden]

DO ANY OF YOU HAVE A LINK FOR THAT KLAUS KINSKI SKELLINGTON HORSE SHIT I AM INTERSTED IN THAT HEAVILY ALSO THANKS FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS
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[SpaceCadetHayden]

Originally Posted by noisereductions

lol.

I agree w you on Kanye though. Anyone who says he is not ridiculously talented hasn't paid enough attention.

talented or not kanye bores the fuck out of me

[SpaceCadetHayden]

also why are these people alive this foreverasskiss is like ni'k if ni'k wasn't as fun or interesting