[choc e-Claire]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

32+ MILLION dollars wasted

The average American gives $2,000 worth of tax each year for the military. This is only about ten cents each.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by choc e-Claire

The average American gives $2,000 worth of tax each year for the military. This is only about ten cents each.

good to see you practicing your debating skills with the denizens of the cesspool

here a bit of data to improve your molotovs or whatever:

https://www.trumpgolfcount.com/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a7586261.html

https://www.motherjones.com/politics...opean-resorts/

 

[Bytor Peltor]

Trump Tweet
OBAMAGATE

 

Barack Obama illegally ordered Federal Law enforcement to investigate his political rival!!!

[choc e-Claire]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

Barack Obama illegally ordered Federal Law enforcement to investigate his political rival!!!

Donald Trump suggested the Chinese Communist Party investigate his political rival.

[tw2113]

It's been forever since we've had a president that people generally agreed was not horrible to the core in one way or another, hasn't it.

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by tw2113

It's been forever since we've had a president that people generally agreed was not horrible to the core in one way or another, hasn't it.

True, but you're talking about perception, not facts.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by tw2113

It's been forever since we've had a president that people generally agreed was not horrible to the core in one way or another, hasn't it.

forever? only 4 years ago we had barak and michelle obama still living in the white house with their 2 great girls plus a labradoodle...

i know the trump administration has been a season in hell and feels like forever.. but only 4 years ago we had a really decent family in the white house.

i know some pig fuckers couldn’t stand the fact that it was a black family though... but we shouldn’t validate those pig fuckers.

[tw2113]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

forever? only 4 years ago we had barak and michelle obama still living in the white house with their 2 great girls plus a labradoodle...

i know the trump administration has been a season in hell and feels like forever.. but only 4 years ago we had a really decent family in the white house.

i know some pig fuckers couldn’t stand the fact that it was a black family though... but we shouldn’t validate those pig fuckers.

Except not what I'm saying. He was constantly attacked by the right for one reason or another, and still is to this day.


What I mean is people from both parties going "eh, he's not the worst thing ever" about whoever was in office at that time.

[Tokolosh]

Obama embraced the US drone programme and carried out ten times more air strikes than his predecessor, George 'war criminal' Bush, with the war on terror. The rat also broke his promise when it came to closing down Guantanamo. He gets no admiration from me!

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Tokolosh

Obama embraced the US drone programme and carried out ten times more air strikes than his predecessor, George 'war criminal' Bush, with the war on terror. The rat also broke his promise when it came to closing down Guantanamo. He gets no admiration from me!

the drone program was always a part of his initial offering. he was never a peacenik, he simply offered a more targeted approach and he did follow up on that.

as for guantanamo, he’s not king and congress wouldn’t let him, there were legal challenges and bureaucratic opposition, plus there were “technical difficulties,” lol, about where to send the prisoners.

e.g. see:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/ob...ose-guantanamo
or
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...ose-guantanamo

hardly “a rat” on both accounts.

btw i wouldn’t say that dubya was rotten to the core. he was just stupid, processed political information in religious terms, and was easily manipulated by neocons.

the one truly rotten to the core in that administration was cheney.

[Tokolosh]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

the drone program was always a part of his initial offering. he was never a peacenik, he simply offered a more targeted approach and he did follow up on that.

as for guantanamo, he’s not king and congress wouldn’t let him, there were legal challenges and bureaucratic opposition, plus there were “technical difficulties,” lol, about where to send the prisoners.

e.g. see:
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/ob...ose-guantanamo
or
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...ose-guantanamo

hardly “a rat” on both accounts.

btw i wouldn’t say dubya was rotten to the core. he was just stupid, processed political information in religious terms, and was easily manipulated by neocons. the one truly rotten to the core there was cheney.

Please don't forget to add Bush senior, Rumsfeld the weasel and good for nothing Paul Bremer to that list.

[Bytor Peltor]

Originally Posted by choc e-Claire

Donald Trump suggested the Chinese Communist Party investigate his political rival.

Oh young and naïve juvenile, why do you struggle so with such simplicity?

President Trump publicly wishing, stating, commenting or wanting something to happen FAILS in comparison to President Obama meeting with, Orchestrating and conspiring with FBI Officials on how to best spy on and discredit General Flynn. This is especially true after the initial FBI investigation found that General Flynn had done nothing wrong!

[Bytor Peltor]

Samantha Powers Claimed She NEVER Tried To Unmask General Flynn, But Records Show Powers Unmasked Flynn SEVEN TIMES


“Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power testified to Congress in 2017 that she never sought to unmask records containing information about former White House National Security Adviser Michael Flynn. Newly declassified documents from the National Security Agency (NSA), however, show that her name appeared on at least seven separate requests to unmask Flynn’s name between Nov. 30, 2016, and January 11, 2017.”


Do any of you Free minded freethinkers care to explain why the former U.S. Ambassador to the UN would LIE UNDER OATH to Congress?



“So, to your knowledge, did you ever make [redacted]?” Schiff asked, likely referring to intercepts of Flynn’s conversations.

“I don’t recall making such a request,” Power said.

“And I just want to be clear that there’s no indication you ever made a request or that there necessarily was even a report on the subject. But I did want to get you on the record on that, because at the end of the day that’s sort of where this came from,” Schiff said.

“Yes, I have no recollection of making a request related to General Flynn,” Power again claimed.

“Okay,” Schiff said. “And I take it you never leaked Mr. Flynn’s name in any way, General Flynn’s name?”

“I have never leaked classified information,” Power said. “I have never leaked names that have come back to me in this highly compartmented process. I have, in fact, never leaked, even unclassified information.”



The only thing missing is documented prof that Shifty Schiff knee before asking the questions in this three ring circus of lies and betrayals.

So come on you free minded freethinkers......why did Powers feel compelled to lie?

Who was Powers trying to protect??

Does Samantha Powers seek immunity to testify against everyone???


Yesterday’s BIG MEDIA TV coverage regarding Flynn’s unmasking:

 

However, today, the NY Post is hitting close to center:

 

[h8kurdt]

Simple question that I've asked before but got zero reply.

Do you think that amongst all of the liars, cheats, guilt admitted, prison residing cronies Trump has had over the years Flynn is the sole beacon of innocence and has never done anything illegal?

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by h8kurdt

Simple question that I've asked before but got zero reply.

Do you think that amongst all of the liars, cheats, guilt admitted, prison residing cronies Trump has had over the years Flynn is the sole beacon of innocence and has never done anything illegal?

What they think is none of those fuckers are liars nor cheats not guilt admitted cronies and it's all made-up by deep state lizard people.

[h8kurdt]

Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi

it's all made-up by deep state lizard people.

Well I, for one, welcome our new reptilian overlords.

[The Soup Nazi]

From The Washington Post:

Obamagate was the worst crime ever committed and here is what it was
By Alexandra Petri
Columnist

“What is the crime exactly that you’re accusing him of?”

“You know what the crime is. The crime is very obvious to everybody. All you have to do is read the newspapers, except yours.”

— President Trump responding to Washington Post reporter Philip Rucker

Obamagate began long ago, long before Trump even got elected, before he even knew he was running. It began before America, before time, in those early days when President Barack Obama lit the furnace of the sun, just before he fixed the paths of the planets in such a way that millennia in the future, Donald Trump would stare directly into a solar eclipse. And, of course, everyone knew about it.

Obamagate was the biggest political crime in American history by far, a fact that Barack Obama did not hesitate to tell Richard M. Nixon, causing him to shed bitter tears in an as-yet-unreleased tape. It was bigger than Teapot Dome. It was bigger than anything anyone blamed Ulysses Grant for allowing the people who surrounded him to do. Nothing could be worse than Obamagate. It went all the way to the top, where Obama floated inside a sinister Masonic eye at the apex of a pyramid on the back of a dollar bill, holding all the strings.

What was it? Well, I am coming to that. Obamagate, like the Myriad Crimes of Hillary Clinton (to which it was both prequel and sequel, like “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story”) was almost Escher-esque in its design. It had no beginning and no end, and, of course, everyone knew all about it. Also, it was obvious to everyone how bad it was. It was a devious, sinister plot, but also Donald Trump was able to get to the bottom of it very easily, mainly by absorbing articles from FoxNews.com or the personal websites of former Fox News personalities.

This perspicacity is immediately evident when you hear Donald Trump talk about Obamagate. Only he can reveal with stunning clarity the depth and horror of this intrigue, in which “some terrible things happened” and “it’s a disgrace that it happened,” which we know from “if you look at now all of this information that’s being released.” “And from what I understand, it’s only the beginning.”

There is more to come about Obamagate, and we will be stunned, because the horror of it all is clear. One of the many facets of Obamagate is that it prevented people from telling Michael Flynn that lying to the FBI was a crime, even if they were investigating something else; had he realized this, he would not have lied to the FBI, probably? It is a commonly known fact (just as commonly known as that Obamagate is ancient and horrible) that it is polite to lie to the FBI unless you are explicitly instructed not to.

This was the genius of Obamagate! President Obama knew that Donald Trump was his greatest political rival, even though he was not running against Donald Trump (and could not) and Donald Trump was technically his successor, not his rival (Obamagate did not account for this) and so, deviously, he handed power peacefully over to Donald Trump in the routine way. We are not sure if this is part of Obamagate, but we think it must be, that Obama also prepared a pandemic exercise for the incoming Trump team, but cleverly organized it so that nobody who would remain in the Trump administration would pay attention and no one who was paying attention would remain in the Trump administration. And you see how masterfully it all worked out!

Obama is still president to this day, which is why everything that goes wrong is his fault. But that will change soon. Donald Trump is here and can point this out. The rule of law is suffering from the people in charge of the government right now. Their pandemic response has not been all that could be hoped. It is a total disaster and an absolute fiasco, what is going on in the White House right now, or, as I guess we must refer to it, Obamagate. And everyone knew exactly what it was.

[Bytor Peltor]

Originally Posted by h8kurdt

Simple question that I've asked before but got zero reply.

Do you think that amongst all of the liars, cheats, guilt admitted, prison residing cronies Trump has had over the years Flynn is the sole beacon of innocence and has never done anything illegal?

Not only is this a simple question, it’s a fair and honest question!

No, Flynn isn’t totally innocent and more importantly, General Flynn is responsible for his actions and decisions. He agreed to a plea deal and that was his decision!

Is this what you wanted to hear?

If so, that was easy enough!!!


As Paul Harvey would say: Now For The Rest Of The Story


It’s my understanding (IF) the initial investigation conducted by the FBI field agents where they listened to the phone conversations with Kislyak and found “the calls were entirely appropriate,” and accepted, we wouldn’t be having this discussion......would we?

Forget that: if Hillary would have won, we wouldn’t be having this conversation......would we??


But after a meeting with President Barack Obama in the Oval Office, the 7th Floor intervened keeping the General Flynn investigation open. We also have the FBI notes between agents questioning what’s their goal???

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

“What is our goal? Truth/Admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute [Flynn] or get him fired?”

FBI Notes confirm it was all a pretext.

 

The Logan Act of 1799

Perhaps Mr. Schunk can shed some light on this......by agreeing to a plea on one count, did General Flynn then no longer have to worry about making a false statement? Not that he was actively looking to make a false statement, but he didn’t need to worry about miss remembering dates, times or anything?


Last but not least, h8kurdt, I remember when President Barack Obama held General Flynn in such high regard. General Flynn took on some heavy terrorist and there was no doubt President Obama had picked the right person!

However, things between Flynn and Obama soured. Flynn knew the inner workings of the Obama Administration and most importantly, he knew too many secrets! General Flynn was about to start working for soon to be new President Donald Trump and between the two, Obama knew they would slowly unravel everything is Presidency worked for......at least that’s how I see it!

[Bytor Peltor]

June 5th, 2018 (page 207)

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

ZERO GUILTY PLEADS for colluding with the Russians or rigging an election!!!

************************************************** *************

For those of you who live outside this country and for the rest who are American citizens and have evidently forgotten what you should’ve learned in Jr. High, let’s look at how our government works.

President Donald Trump: “i’ve done no wrongdoing, but I have the power to pardon myself if I so choose.”

President Donald Trump‘s lawyers notified Robert Muller......under the constitution, there is no way a sitting President could obstruct any investigation.

WHY?

President Of The United States
Executive Branch
Justice Department
FBI


The Justice Department appointed Robert Muller to head up the investigation. Because any sitting President is “Boss” over the Executive Branch, the President can shut down Justice Department & FBI investigations. President Donald Trump could fire Robert Muller today and there is nothing illegal or impeachable for doing so. This is also true if the President chose to cut off funding to an investigation. The Boss has final say!

Soooo......what does our Government have in place to investigate a sitting President?

***Legislative Branch***

The legislative branch has the power and authority to appoint their own special counsel. Under The Constitution, the President has NO AUTHORITY over this special counsel. If any President attempted to stop or influence the Legislative investigation......that would be an impeachable offense!

NEWSFLASH: The United States legislature HAS NOT appointed a special prosecutor. The legislature isn’t investigating ANYTHING!!!

Typically, when the FBI has, ZERO-Nothing-NADA evidence against you, they’re only option is to try and find where you may have somehow obstructed justice...... but as I explained above, the United States Constitution clearly states that a President cannot obstruct any investigation under the legislative branch.

Class is dismissed!

What was 100% TRUE in June 2018 is 100% TRUE in May 2020!!!

Sure, that was concerning the Mueller investigation and this is the General Flynn investigation......but the same TRUTH applies!!!

The Executive Branch (William Barr) has dropped the charges, so why is the Judicial Branch (Judge Sullivan) attempting to override what the Executive Branch is wanting to do?

Judge Sullivan is wanting to bring in a Hostile former Prosecutor (John Gleason) who has already publicly opined his thoughts on this case:

“There has been nothing regular about the department’s effort to dismiss the Flynn case. The record reeks of improper political influence.”

LISTEN UP CLASS:

The Business Of Prosecution is a matter of The Executive Branch!!! The Judicial Branch is there to call balls and strikes, more importantly, The Judicial Branch Isn’t Responsible For Prosecution Or To Substitute Their Judgement For A Decision Of Dismissal!!!

”The United States Supreme Court ... in the unanimous decision ... written by Ruth Bader Ginsburg took a situation like this where the Ninth Circuit was using amicus curiae/friend of court briefs to change the nature and position the case -- not what the parties were fighting over but what the court wanted them to fight over.“

What Judge Sullivan is attempting to do is unconditional!
(let that sink in)

Also, in our judicial system, a case or controversy is required to proceed. Judge Sullivan’s Court lacks jurisdiction —SIMPLE AS THAT— when the Executive Branch withdraws because there is no longer a case or controversy, IT’S OVER!!!


The Executive Branch dropping the charges ENDS IT!!!


Last but not least, the Department of Justice can get a Writ Of Mandamus from the federal appellate court in Washington DC to compel Judge Sullivan to do his job!!!


Class dismissed......everyone have a great weekend!!!

[h8kurdt]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

However, things between Flynn and Obama soured. Flynn knew the inner workings of the Obama Administration and most importantly, he knew too many secrets! General Flynn was about to start working for soon to be new President Donald Trump and between the two, Obama knew they would slowly unravel everything is Presidency worked for......at least that’s how I see it!

Obama warned Trump about Flynn

So that's ruined your narrative there.