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This is like one of those Giuliani interviews in which he voluntarily admitted he was guilty as accused. You would have loved being next to me in the front row at a Lee Ranaldo show before the last mid-terms, in which, during "Thrown Over The Wall" and with all his brain, heart, soul, and voice, he shouted, "Let's flip these houses and kick these fuckers OUT!" Please wear your MAGA hat if you go see any of them.
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But twitter decides to take this action six months prior to the November election. From six months shy of Donald Trump winning the 2016 election and this is the week Twitter decides to fact check??? Why not worry about fact checking two or four years ago?? Could it be the upcoming election......are the liberals and Democrats are applying too much pressure? Mail-in ballots are a legitimate policy dispute! There are reasons every State doesn’t use mail-in ballots, there are reasons our Country refuses to fully use electronic voting......online voting......there are reasons why! Just think of all the college students enrolled to vote in the state of their University, but are no longer living in that state because the Universities are closed and the students returned home. How do states know where to send those ballots? In previous years when by bipartisan groups have been assembled to address these worries, it was the conclusion that absentee ballots posed the greatest threat for possible violations. Then when you factor the possibility of the United States Postal Service going bankrupt this Summer......who would oversee the delivery of these ballots? Even if the USPS doesn’t go under, there are major delays and other legitimate reasons why mail-in ballots shouldn’t be considered! So President Trump weighs in on a policy issue: “ Republicans feel that Social Media Platforms totally silence conservatives voices. We will strongly regulate, or close them down, before we can ever allow this to happen. We saw what they attempted to do, and failed, in 2016. We can’t let a more sophisticated version of that.... ....happen again. Just like we can’t let large scale Mail-In Ballots take root in our Country. It would be a free for all on cheating, forgery and the theft of Ballots. Whoever cheated the most would win. Likewise, Social Media. Clean up your act, NOW!!!!“ Trump tweet “.@Twitter is now interfering in the 2020 Presidential Election. They are saying my statement on Mail-In Ballots, which will lead to massive corruption and fraud, is incorrect, based on fact-checking by Fake News CNN and the Amazon Washington Post....“ TRUMP tweet “ There is NO WAY (ZERO!) that Mail-In Ballots will be anything less than substantially fraudulent. Mail boxes will be robbed, ballots will be forged & even illegally printed out & fraudulently signed. The Governor of California is sending Ballots to millions of people, anyone.....” ******notice how this tweet ends with a CNN link****** Zuckerberg knocks Twitter for fact-checking Trump, says private companies shouldn't be 'the arbiter of truth' Meanwhile In California ![]() TEXAS Texas Supreme Court: Lack of immunity to COVID-19 alone not enough to vote by mail |
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Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Utah , and Hawaii conduct their elections solely by mail. Don't remember any voter fraud scandals coming out of there. Or even you ever moaning about them before Trump started panicking about them.
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![]() Most of the rest of the world does postal voting, it works fine. In Australia, at least, it actually leans towards the conservative parties. Is this more of your whole 'but America's special, we need to be different to the remaining 95% of the world' shtick? (And I'm honestly amused by the worry that 'whoever cheated more' would win.)
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I clearly said there are reasons every state doesn’t use mail-in ballots. You respond with five states that do. Not one of these states are in the Top 10 of population, three of them aren’t in the Top 25 of population. 13. Washington 21. Colorado 27. Oregon 30. Utah 41. Hawaii THANK YOU for making my point!!! |
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Ah, so Texas is so terribly mismanaged that it can't scale up the operation? Good to hear.
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Still not seeing a good reason to not have postal voting. Has there been evidence voter fraud in the past? Are there checks to make sure it can't happen? Of course.
I'd be more bothered about electronic voting than postal. But hey, what trump says you believe blindly, right?
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Jerry Nadler slammed paper ballots as ‘extremely susceptible to fraud’ in 2004 “I just, as a very experienced practical politician from New York, feel constrained to observe that in my experience in New York, paper ballots are extremely susceptible to fraud,” the veteran House Democrat said. “And at least with the old clunky voting machines that we have in New York, the deliberate fraud is way down compared to paper.” |
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Wall Street Journal: “Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” (April 2020) |
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Paywall. Can you copy the whole piece so I can have a read. Surely we can look at the evidence at how many countries allow mail voting to show that the chance of a rigged election through it is unlikely. Or is it that Trump is afraid of losing an election because of it?
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And that makes it political? How so? Were both sides not equally enraged by an attack on U.S. citizens carried out by deranged religious zealots? Don't tell me you're going to take the Hillary Clinton/Susan Rice Benghazi angle and say America brought it on itself. ![]() |
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Did think you'd say it isn't political. How can it not be? Especially given what followed it.
Dude Ranch Nurse-Bush Paper Cup Exit-Bush Do you believe in rapture-right wing evangelist Society is a hole-Regan/Reganomics Teenage riot-pretty obvious Chapel Hill-Murder of peace activist Bob Sheldon. Suspected to be by the CIA. Anti-orgasm-Kommune 1 Rain on tin-9/11 as already said Youth against facism-Disagree with GeneticKiss on this. Clearly a simple anti-fascist song Peace attack-Bush Iraq Here's an explanation of what all of them are about. And a colouring book too.
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Still not following...what exactly do you think Thurston's saying about 911, "especially given what followed it"? We all hope To signal kin Days of gold Now rain on tin Gather round Gather friends Never fear Never again I agree with him and think most would. Is there a political debate to be had? If so, what are the sides? |
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Isn't that really just a goofy fantasy about J Mascis becoming president? Or does a song immediately qualify as political just by having the word 'riot' in the title? |
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Keep on running in the dark
Dude ranch dream has fallen apart Stolen kisses let's pretend my friend You play sick and I will mend Let the action begin again You be patient and I'll attend Let's rehearse let's do it again Dude ranch nurse yr brand new friend Let nurse give you a shot It's something to do Took my pulse Let nurse give you a shot It's something to do I could love you I could have you Deep sleep coming along Like a newborn colt you found I'll wrap it around with gauze Dizzy reminder Ouch, you found Let nurse give you a shot Don't sleep too long You be cowboy and I'll allow Let me ride you till you fall Let's pretend there's nothing at all Nobody knows the shape I'm in Kiss me now it's just a sin Nobody knows the shape I'm in Anti-Bush? If Kim says so. Overtly political? Not a chance in hell. |
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I don’t have access to the WSJ and I’m not paying! The only reason I knew of the article is due to it being mentioned on a radio show. Truth is, h8kurdt, I have zero desire to discuss the number of countries that allow mail-in ballots. I don’t have a dog in that fight! My response was regarding States within the United States of America who choose to not use mail-in ballots. Each does so for various reasons and I believe the most prevalent reason is population......but I could be mistaken! Guess what, it doesn’t matter what myself or any of you think. Mail-in ballots are a legitimate policy dispute and Americans are free to come down on whatever side they choose......but nothing good comes from changing how America votes six months prior to an election! More importantly, if Americans can stand in socially distant lines at the grocery store and marijuana dispensaries, they can stand in line to vote! The subject of my response was questioning why twitter chose to fact check President Trump this week simply because he tweeted about a policy. Twitter has had opportunity to do so in previous years and twitter chose not to until this week. For many this move reeks of censorship. |
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Thought you said you were done with this? Alright, look at it this way. Nirvana never wrote a political song, save for downer, however their actions as a band made them political. Exact same situation with sonic youth.
Your obsession that because it's not "overt" (word of the week people) it's not political is glib. Think it's a desperation to hide the fact that your political views are the exact opposite of sonic youth's.
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So you link me to read a piece without having read it yourself? Eesh. Best way trump can avoid having the fact check pieces is by, y'know, not lying. Of course that would be too difficult to do.
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Sonic Youth's recorded output is, what, +/- 300 songs? We are struggling to cobble together a list of 5 political songs; therefore, my conclusion is they are not a political band. I'll concede Youth Against Fascism, Peace Attack, Chapel Hill (one of my all-time favorite SY songs), and Shoot (you missed that one). The rest are a stretch, IMO. |
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