[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk

The Rhode Island State Police have compiled crime statistics indicating that there has been a 30% increase in domestic violence incidents here since the Coronavirus lockdown began. Has this phenomenon been observed in your own areas?

Wait - you posted this nugget as a way of arguing for lifting the quarantine, as your dear leader wants, didn't you? You are one sick fuck, you FUCKING ASSHOLE.

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by Skuj

Two headlines grabbed me today:

1. USA has most reported Covid deaths in a day.

2. USA halts WHO funding.

Trumpists, please, help me out here. I've unignored everyone. It's too confusing otherwise. Reconcile these headlines for me. Thanks.

Not gonna happen without an irrational bullshit spin, so why challenge them. We hear enough lies already.

The Bannon/Dotard "doctrine" was sold specifically as anti-multilateral free trade agreements, but it's far more scattershot - it involves the annihilation of every single multilateral organization or accord on Earth, no matter how necessary and benefitial to humankind. The World Health Organization is the latest victim in a hit list that included the JCPOA and the Paris Agreement. Defunding it in the middle of an unprecedented worldwide pandemic truly is tantamount to a crime against humanity.

 

[g.]

Originally Posted by Skuj

My mother has it. She is 88, in a nursing home in Ajax, Ontario, Canada. Go figure!!

So sorry to hear this. I hope she is well soon. Stay strong.

[nicfit]

Originally Posted by Skuj

Two headlines grabbed me today:

1. USA has most reported Covid deaths in a day.

2. USA halts WHO funding.

Trumpists, please, help me out here. I've unignored everyone. It's too confusing otherwise. Reconcile these headlines for me. Thanks.

To put it in the simplest possible way, Trumpo says the WHO covered up the severity of the contagion early on.

There are many asymptomatic positive cases that just “stay” asymptomatic, I surely hope your mom will be amongst them.

Not gonna lie, nursing homes have been a bit of a mess here in Italy, but I’m confident the lesson has been learned in “civilized countries” as Canada.

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by nicfit

To put it in the simplest possible way, Trumpo says the WHO covered up the severity of the contagion early on.

Don't mess with them.

 

[...] a bit of a mess here in Italy [...]

There's nothing hilarious about this. And yet, those videos by Italian members of parliament telling their constituents OH, NOW YOU FUCKERS ARE ALL MARATHON RUNNERS, ARENTCHA, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU STAY THE MOTHER-FUCK INSIDE were pretty hilarious.

[!@#$%!]

3 drunkle bob messages in a row

he must have found a sterno suppy

why are you guys enabling that sorry bum?

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Skuj

My mother has it. She is 88, in a nursing home in Ajax, Ontario, Canada. Go figure!!

what da... skuj!

i am so sorry. just read, and fingers crossed for no symptoms to remain that way.

Originally Posted by tw2113

Meanwhile, for me locally: https://www.argusleader.com/story/ne...ls/2981612001/

this is criminal. take cover.

Originally Posted by choc e-Claire

First lesson of the term for online schooling - look how my Physics teacher tests his webcam:

 

that’s good learnin’

Originally Posted by nicfit

To put it in the simplest possible way, Trumpo says the WHO covered up the severity of the contagion early on.

he’s just trying to cover up his own incompetence by blaming someone else as usual, but more on that in his sewer of a thread

[!@#$%!]

holy molly those chess pieces!

sorry not buying lmao

[Skuj]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

holy molly those chess pieces!

sorry not buying lmao

Msg deleted. I rethunk some things.

[h8kurdt]

Michigan knuckledraggers defy stay at home order

Give it three weeks and we'll see the death rates rocket there. Fuck em. Let me drown.

I'm more bothered about the innocent family members and members of the public they could potentially infect and kill from their stupidity.

[choc e-Claire]

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk

May the Lord's will be done!

Ideally to you, and 62,984,827 specific other people, before November 3.

[choc e-Claire]

obvious joke is obvious and yet somehow not noticed?

[h8kurdt]

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk

This does, of course, mean, that a certain number of casualties must be accepted. As I, myself, am 62 years old, and a smoker, I must be willing to accept that I, myself, may become a casualty. .

May the Lord's will be done!

Not sure you'd be thinking that same thing whilst desperately trying to get those last breaths of air into your already collapsed lungs in a miserable hospital bed on your own because no family are allowed to be anywhere near you as it happens.

But y'know, if you wanna jump head first into getting it then by all means do. "If they would rather die," said Scrooge, "they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."

[GravitySlips]

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk

May the Lord's will be done!

And the Lord said: "Let there be a virus that kills many people, infects millions, and decimates the economy"

Thanks "Lord"

[demonrail666]

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk

If done wisely, the brutal balance between the contagion and the economy can be struck, in a manner acceptable to precisely noone.!

That's the challenge for all governments. You're right, these lockdown measures simply can't go on for months but what politician will be prepared to make the decision to lift them, knowing it'll likely cause a spike in the death-toll and, as a result, almost inevitably see them being portrayed as having blood on their hands? It'd be an act of political suicide even if, long term, it was the right thing to do for the sake of the country as a whole. These are the very kinds of decisions where you see the shortcomings of a democratic style of government based on short-term popularity, compared with totalitarian ones that have no such need for popular approval. Needless to say, I'm not generally in favour of totalitarian governments but this is the very kinds of scenario where they definitely have an advantage.

[_tunic_]

Translation of a Dutch newspaper article:

In Bogotá, men and women are allowed to take to the streets every other day, transgender people can choose

By separating men and women, the mayor of the Colombian capital Bogotá hopes to maintain quarantine better. The plan looks sympathetic, but was immediately criticized.

Residents of Bogotá are only allowed to take to the streets for groceries or to go to the bank. Image EPA
The quirky capital of Colombia has its own quarantine rule from Monday. Women are only allowed out in Bogotá on the even days, men only on the odd days. Claudia López, the city's first woman mayor and the first lesbian mayor in Latin America, presented the new measures on Thursday. Trans persons have also been considered: they can choose based on the gender with which they identify themselves.


López calls the line "pico y genero" (peak and gender), a nod to "pico y placa" (peak and plate), a number plate rotation system for cars. The measure does not mean that men and women are completely free to move around on their days. They are only allowed to take to the streets for groceries or to go to the bank. The police are going to enforce strict, López promised, who goes out on the wrong day can be fined a million pesos, about 230 euros.

Colombia now has more than 2,400 registered infections and eighty corona deaths. The capital has been hit hardest with almost half of the infections. The mayor hopes to be able to maintain quarantine better by separating men and women.

López 'plan looks sympathetic, but was immediately criticized. In other parts of the country, the measure "pico y cedula" applies, people can only go out once every five days based on the last two digits of their identity card. Elsewhere, quarantine seems stricter than in Bogotá, while the capital has the most infections. The mayor defended the plan, saying that sex is easier to verify than IDs.

The transgender exception has been both ridiculed and criticized in recent days. Among male social media users, the videos of men with wigs are especially popular: on even days with, on odd days without. Transgender people warn that the well-intentioned exception poses great risks for them.

"Who is going to enforce the rule? The police. In other words, the unit that has been using violence against trans persons for years, "reporters of La Disidencia, a section on sexual diversity from the newspaper El Espectador. Transgender people are most often victims of police brutality in Bogotá, the journalists say in a video with five reasons why the rule turns out badly. Among other things, the risk of intimidation and unjustified fines, but also: "What about the people who do not identify with either sex? The measure denies their existence. "

[!@#$%!]

three more weeks uk lockdown

@tunic: it’s a great easy way to cut population density in half each day

[tw2113]

https://www.argusleader.com/story/ne...us/5138372002/


Joy. The city I'm in is #1

[h8kurdt]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

three more weeks uk lockdown

@tunic: it’s a great easy way to cut population density in half each day

I'm getting a lot of reading and classic WrestleMania watching done so im fine with it for now!

[The Soup Nazi]

From Zakaria's Global Briefing:

Lockdown Exit Strategy: ‘Suppress and Lift’

What might an exit from lockdowns look like? In Science, Kai Kupferschmidt writes that it will likely involve the “‘suppress and lift’ strategy that both Singapore and Hong Kong are pursuing,” modulating social-distancing policies as the rate of Covid-19’s spread rises and falls.

“The number to watch in the next phase may no longer be the actual number of cases per day, but what epidemiologists call the effective reproduction number, or R, which denotes how many people the average infected person infects in turn. If R is above 1, the outbreak grows; below 1 it shrinks,” Kupferschmidt writes. “To regulate R, ‘Governments will have to realize that there are basically three control knobs on the dashboard,’ says Gabriel Leung, a modeler at the University of Hong Kong: isolating patients and tracing their contacts, border restrictions, and social distancing.” Countries are at various stages of progress: Austria (which has begun to reopen) has brought that figure below one, the UK and Germany have approached it, and Singapore has fluctuated above and below it.

There’s also the question of immunity. We don’t know much about how Covid-19 immunity works, and the UK lost valuable time by considering a “herd immunity” strategy, Kupferschmidt writes, but “some scientists say other countries should consider it once the strain that the first wave of cases has put on their health care systems eases.” Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota, Twin Cities, tells him: “Is it better to have a controlled burn in younger populations right now than it is to prevent it? I think that’s a very important conversation to have.”

A Trade War Over Medical Gear?

President Trump has faced backlash over his move, announced last week and solidified in a presidential memorandum last Friday, to limit the exports of protective equipment needed by health workers treating patients for Covid-19. Criticism may not be the end of it, writes Chad Brown of the Peterson Institute for International Economics, predicting US trading partners could retaliate.

“Today, foreign governments could also cut off American access to other PPE, such as face shields, goggles, and hospital gowns, as well as ventilators, catheters, X-ray equipment, or CT scanners,” Brown writes. “Also imperiled are foreign-produced inputs that American manufacturing plants require to make the hospital gear in the first place. Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has even warned the administration that its policy could provoke retaliation, noting that ‘the United States also receives essential supplies and products’ from Canada.” US doctors and nurses rely on imports from Canada and Mexico “for the medical headwear, sanitizer, face shields, and protective garments that are in short supply. All of these could be cut off as retaliation,” Brown writes.

The US isn’t the only country putting up export restrictions—European countries have enacted similar limits—but Brown writes that “[t]o paraphrase President Trump, trade wars in medical gear are easy to lose. The human costs could be devastating.”

More from the Briefing:
—Testing and Tracing: Are Apps the Answer?
—The Indian State That Squashed the Curve
—Cold Water on the Models
—What Does Trump Prove About the Presidency?

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