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Old 08.16.2007, 07:01 AM   #861
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Old 08.16.2007, 07:29 AM   #862
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oh come on, i wasn't at all saying that the hypothetical musician wasn't at all talented. i was raising a question, using those two analogies to demonstrate the confusion and dislike i have over the term "talent" when used by mainstream music literature and the listening public.

i wasn't relaying my personal opinions in the slightest. the vast majority of the listening public would call one musician talented and the other untalented. however, who are we to say which has a greater artistic value? that's all i was saying.

regarding classical music: to lend individual interpretation to a piece of music is obviously a skill that is hugely difficult to aquire, and takes a massive amount of sensitivity and creativity. this i agree with you on one hundred percent. i play the piano classically myself, and even if i don't do it very well, it really is the most wonderful aspect of playing.

p.s. when i said "following sheets of music that have been played in the same way for 300 years" i was regarding baroque piano/harpsichord music. it is actually almost impossible to perform a truly individual interpretation of most of the baroque keyboard works without actually altering the notes (something bach actually encouraged but which hardly anybody does). musicians have to inject personality with dynamics (which is impossible on a harpsichord) and these are dynamics which, for the most apart, are the dynamics widely encouraged and accepted by the scholarly institutions.
record labels, audiences and scholars obviously don't want to see their music slaughtered in this way so there is a limited creativity, which is on the opposite end of the spectrum of free improv. that is why i used the two examples.


all true my man. talent is talent though.


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Old 08.16.2007, 07:31 AM   #863
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Old 08.16.2007, 07:42 AM   #864
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Old 08.16.2007, 07:55 AM   #865
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when used tastefully (i.e. not in oasis songs) the cello is the most beautiful instrument to listen to, from jazz to classical to 20th century experimental to improv music.
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Old 08.16.2007, 08:02 AM   #866
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the who looked brilliant AND had loud amps so put that in your pipe and smoke it rob!
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Rob apparently thinks it's OK to have loud amps, but only if you look like shit while you use 'em.

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