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but THAT is the entire point, it is a certainty. check back with me in November
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I don't know if I envy your optimism or pity it.
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with your certainty i assume you're betting everything you have on the outcome. Easy money, right? |
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i'll grant that the probabilities at the moment are in favor of your prediction, and i certainly hope things will break that way, but probabilities aren't certainties until they're realized. that's, like--- reality 101. at least for those of us who exist in linear time and aren't "seers" ![]() |
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i aint mad at that, the Democrats indeed sold out, i work Union, i get it, but in what universe does Trump somehow BETTER represent true working class values?? THIS is the premise that keeps getting missed in the media feeding frenzy and smoke machine.. the criticisms of democrat party are totally fair and valid, its that GOP only looks even worse in that regard. Quote:
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you misrepresenting Ceasar Chavez to fit an agenda. also its not undocumented workers who deserves any blame, its the heartless and corrupted corporations who not only hire such folks at cut throat wages but even worse go to Mexico and Central America and directly recruit! fuck that.. Fuck them. people are not scabs they are human beings. scabs are assholes who reject unions on principle and work directly to sabotage. undocumented workers are an entirely different scenario
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I'm not sure how many brain-dead people are on this list. Heartless, sure, but not brainless, however much I disagree or even despise a few of these folks. Donald Rumsfeld may be Satan, but he's not a drooling redneck either. Bet his IQ's higher than yours. Maybe even mine. :-)
(Although there are a few braindeads on the list--Dan Quale? I'll give you that.) List of Donald Trump presidential campaign endorsements https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign_endorse ments,_2016 |
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(b) proove me wrong that Trump has more than just braindead white people supporting him... i can wait
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Okay, take Rumsfeld off the list.
???? These are serious people supporting Trump (including at least one black person--I'm not familiar with all the names). As you requested. After I gave. |
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you know, i know, every one knows we could make a much longer list of establishment Republicans who have refused to outright endorse Trump or who have been vocally critical of Trump than we can support. further we can also make a much larger list of anecdotal evidence of Republicans who have said they will vote for Hillary than we can of disaffected Democrats who will vote for Trump. y'all giving me too hard a time like yall don't know what im talking about. yall acting like i love Hillary or an endorsing her myself, im just offering my scouting report do with it what you will |
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you know, i know, every one knows we could make a much longer list of establishment Republicans who have refused to outright endorse Trump or who have been vocally critical of Trump than we can support. further we can also make a much larger list of anecdotal evidence of Republicans who have said they will vote for Hillary than we can of disaffected Democrats who will vote for Trump. y'all giving me too hard a time like yall don't know what im talking about. yall acting like i love Hillary or an endorsing her myself, im just offering my scouting report do with it what you will |
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What I'm suggesting is common sense. If that's fear mongering to you, so be it. There are a lot of Republicans who HAVE endorsed Trump. This is nothing like 1964, when so many GOP types loathed Goldwater that they formed a group called Republicans For Johnson. Don't see that this time, do you? That's because Trump has a lot more support than Goldwater did. If you had read my post carefully, you will see that I pointed out northeast Ohio as an example of places where workers have felt a sustained economic whammy, not as the "entire country". You're the one who sees everything through a California lens. As for "braindead" and "stupid" blue collar workers who have been suffering a long time, that is exactly the kind of condescending, elitist attitude that Trump plays off of and gets support from. And where have you been the past 35 to 40 years? A lot of rust belt areas have gone GOP. Union power, regrettably, has significantly waned. Oh, and my Nixon example was based on the 1972 election, NOT 1968. Please read more carefully. |
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Drjohnrock again. (sincerely, i appreciate you engaging in real dialogue and making great points)
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Also you said rust belt is firmly GOP, didn't Bill Clinton and Obama win Ohio? so how am i 40 years off again? i can see the world through more than California lenses even if i am crass about it. i will again remind you that California has a huge and powerful GOP block, we have had more Republican governors, control of state legislature, and mayors of major cities in my lifetime than democrats. we had prop 187 one of most racist laws in American history. we had Prop 8 a few years ago. It's like Pac said, "everyone thinks Cali is just fun and bitches.." ![]()
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id spread rep to all y'all but im repped out and i bet if you check your rep youll see i already repped when i was last able to
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hey, this dude just gave a white country lib and non-urban urban conservative people a history lesson. I guess you guys are a ok. though you've never skucked a corn on the cob or peeled a pee. because if you haven't then, your a racist son of a bitch mugfucker. I asked my relatives..: "are the grown crops today as good as they were yesterday"? they told me: pick cotton. asshole. blam blam , that tells me nothing about who I should vote for. you can vote for yr butterbean auntie and you can vote for yr 8 point buck boy but, im not voting for NO ONE!!!!! eat it. gravy steak is served? "hell yeah". |
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