[Skuj]

Ladies And Gentlemen, The President Of The Untied States Of America:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbre.../#384e08135b16

(It doesn't matter that Trump has, at his fingertips, the truth of this matter, via his Intel.)

I'd like to think that the cracks are beginning to appear in Trumpworld. This retweet will certainly not help get military voting for him. Some in the GOP may actually be starting to grow some balls. The Bytors and Skunks of this world may actually be howling into the wind now?

God help us all if this is not the case.

[Bytor Peltor]

Originally Posted by Skuj

Ladies And Gentlemen, The President Of The Untied States Of America:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbre.../#384e08135b16

(It doesn't matter that Trump has, at his fingertips, the truth of this matter, via his Intel.)

I'd like to think that the cracks are beginning to appear in Trumpworld. This retweet will certainly not help get military voting for him. Some in the GOP may actually be starting to grow some balls. The Bytors and Skunks of this world may actually be howling into the wind now?

God help us all if this is not the case.

Howling?

Someone is howling??

No need to howl when dealing with the truth!

Speaking of......for those of you who watched the NBC townhall and wondered about the QAnon movement that President Donald Trump was asked about during the NBC town hall Thursday night, hosted by Savannah Guthrie, but like Biden and Harris who lied to the American people and took President Trump out of context, Guthrie also promoted that lie with her question to Trump. Now we know that the left has taken Trumps words out of context, and he has repeatedly denied these racist groups.

First, a bit of background......the city of Charlottesville Virginia had voted to remove a statue of Robert E. Lee from a local park. Some people wanted to keep the statue and many had gathered at the Park to make their wants known, along with them came the hate groups.


What Was Said

“I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally. Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.”

And the correct — in context — comment that the liberals love to twist: (But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides.) He is separating those protesting both the loss of a statue and those wanting it removed from the hate groups that gathered there as well.

QAnon = the movement started in the US around 2017 and is a conspiracy theorist group displaying the flag of the pre-war German Reich, which is popular among neo-Nazis. QAnon themes such as anti-Semitism which revived the Protocols of the Zion conspiracy are popular, most all of them are from outside the US, and the majority are in Europe or Latin America. Within Europe, Germany, Italy, France and the United Kingdom have the highest engagement with QAnon. The fringe far-right groups are grafting themselves onto the QAnon groups to give themselves a greater profile, much like the far left has done with groups such as BLM, Antifa, Tides Foundation, Workers World Party, and the Weather underground.

The reason this question was asked by the “moderator” is, during a Berlin protest against the Covid lockdowns, was the call for the strong man who is fighting and working against the establishment, and according to what I have read, President Trump is idolized as the savior, more or less, who is leading the battle against the deep state.

(Remember BREXIT)

A banner asking Trump to "make Germany great again" was liked more than 16,400 times on Instagram. Facebook, Twitter, and other social media outlets are working to clear their platforms of their social media pages.

This is pretty much sums up how this SYG’er sees QAnon......am I mistaken?

[demonrail666]

QAnon strikes me as a massive distraction in all this. I'd say that most pro-Trump advocates in Europe, the younger ones anyway, treat him almost as a meme. Like the shit-poster section of 40kers on 4chan who refer to him as the God Emperor. It's more opposed to what they perceive as the overly earnest and censorious Woke culture that they see increasingly representing the Left and so much 'normie' culture (and infecting their own beloved social media), than any really heartfelt commitment to Trump, other than as an avatar for winding up the Orange-Man-Bad brigade.

 

A God Emperor statue paraded at a carnival in Italy last year.

[Bytor Peltor]

According to DRUDGE this Monday morning, it’s all doom & gloom for the Trump campaign : )

 

(zero hunter biden stories)

[!@#$%!]

more propaganda?

[h8kurdt]

Trump: "Fauci is a disaster. If I listened to him, we’d have 500,000 deaths," before later saying it would be 700,000 or 800,000. "If there’s a reporter on, you can have it just the way I said it, I couldn’t care less."

 

Trump also saying "If Biden becomes president he'll listen to the scientists" is probably the worst attempt at a dig I've ever seen.

220,000 dead and counting.

[Skuj]

Ladies And Gentlemen, The President Of The United States Of America:

“He’s like this wonderful guy, a wonderful sage telling us how he said, do not wear facemasks — that’s a number of months ago. He said, do not close it up to China. I have a list of 15 things. And yet we keep him. Every time he goes on television there’s always a bomb. But there is a bigger bomb if you fire him. But Fauci is a disaster. I mean, this guy, if I listened to him, we would have 500,000 deaths.”

[!@#$%!]

 

[Skuj]

I just went and looked at New York Post for 10 seconds.

What I saw will damage me for life.

I can never unsee it.

I bet that is the source of much "information" for The Trumpy People in this thread.

How did it come to this?

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Skuj

How did it come to this?

stupidity + evil

[Skuj]

Originally Posted by Skuj

Yes!!

A recent Trump Ad uses Fauci, and completely out of context. (Of course!)

And Fauci, God bless him, is not taking that lying down.

(Shall we predict how long Fauci lasts?)

I'm almost certain that Fauci speaking out about this is what caused Trump to finally start saying what we all knew he was going to say at some point.

(Isn't it funny that Fauci is apparently a disaster, but he is also in the Trump ad?)

And, it will be crickets from GOP on this, right? (Maybe Susan Collins will be very concerned.)

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by Silver ✴ Rocket

http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/showpost.php?p=1405426&postcount=9436

GREAT, just what we needed, another one. And they like Sonic Youth, these fuckos.

[The Soup Nazi]

Originally Posted by EVOLghost

https://youtu.be/Qg0pO9VG1J8

SNL really hit it on the head with this one.

Let's not forget that was during the 2016 campaign. SNL has mostly turned to shitty bothsidesism since then.

[h8kurdt]

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk

Sonic Youth have always been a band for people who think for themselves. Their following could never be called a cult, as too many people followed them for their own reasons, quite apart from what the band themselves intended.

It's PUNK!!! If anybody hates one of us because of our opinions, WE DON'T CARE!!!!!

***

By the way:

Johnny Rotten Defends Donald Trump, Sees Him as a 'Possible Friend' | Good Morning Britain

So you got Johnny Rotten, Kirsty Allen and Ted Nugent to count as his supporters. Well that's me convinced to do so too

[The Soup Nazi]

That was fucking vomitive. If you must quote the dotards, do it like me: just quote their posts' URLs. Yes, do it like me... And then we'll start a cult... And a conspiracy theory... Around ME! FOR I ALONE CAN FIX IT!

[The Soup Nazi]

Speaking of...

The Worst Songs and Performances About COVID-19
Haven't we suffered enough?

[!@#$%!]

lmfao that old video of poor john lydon

history has proven him wrong

lol @ dotards in this thread, but don’t give them backlinks

[choc e-Claire]

Trump Records Shed New Light on Chinese Business Pursuits - The New York Times

Anyone wanna be a dear and copy the article (paywalled)?

[!@#$%!]

Trump Records Shed New Light on Chinese Business Pursuits
As he raises questions about his opponent’s standing with China, President Trump’s taxes reveal details about his own activities there, including a previously unknown bank account.

By Mike McIntire, Russ Buettner and Susanne Craig
Oct. 20, 2020Updated 7:50 p.m. ET

President Trump at a 2017 meeting with the leader of China, Xi Jinping. Mr. Trump has a long history of chasing licensing deals in the country.Stephen Crowley/The New York Times
President Trump and his allies have tried to paint the Democratic nominee, Joseph R. Biden Jr., as soft on China, in part by pointing to his son’s business dealings there.

Senate Republicans produced a report asserting, among other things, that Mr. Biden’s son Hunter “opened a bank account” with a Chinese businessman, part of what it said were his numerous connections to “foreign nationals and foreign governments across the globe.”

But Mr. Trump’s own business history is filled with overseas financial deals, and some have involved the Chinese state. He spent a decade unsuccessfully pursuing projects in China, operating an office there during his first run for president and forging a partnership with a major government-controlled company.

And it turns out that China is one of only three foreign nations — the others are Britain and Ireland — where Mr. Trump maintains a bank account, according to an analysis of the president’s tax records, which were obtained by The New York Times. The foreign accounts do not show up on Mr. Trump’s public financial disclosures, where he must list personal assets, because they are held under corporate names. The identities of the financial institutions are not clear.

The Chinese account is controlled by Trump International Hotels Management L.L.C., which the tax records show paid $188,561 in taxes in China while pursuing licensing deals there from 2013 to 2015.

The tax records do not include details on how much money may have passed through the overseas accounts, though the Internal Revenue Service does require filers to report the portion of their income derived from other countries. The British and Irish accounts are held by companies that operate Mr. Trump’s golf courses in Scotland and Ireland, which regularly report millions of dollars in revenue from those countries. Trump International Hotels Management reported just a few thousand dollars from China.

In response to questions from The Times, Alan Garten, a lawyer for the Trump Organization, said the company had “opened an account with a Chinese bank having offices in the United States in order to pay the local taxes” associated with efforts to do business there. He said the company had opened the account after establishing an office in China “to explore the potential for hotel deals in Asia.”

“No deals, transactions or other business activities ever materialized and, since 2015, the office has remained inactive,” Mr. Garten said. “Though the bank account remains open, it has never been used for any other purpose.”

Mr. Garten would not identify the bank in China where the account is held. Until last year, China’s biggest state-controlled bank rented three floors in Trump Tower, a lucrative lease that drew accusations of a conflict of interest for the president.

Trump Tower in Manhattan had a lucrative lease agreement until last year with China’s largest state-controlled bank.Dave Sanders for The New York Times
China continues to be an issue in the 2020 presidential campaign, from the president’s trade war to his barbs over the origin of the coronavirus pandemic. His campaign has tried to portray Mr. Biden as a “puppet” of China who, as vice president, misread the dangers posed by its growing power. Mr. Trump has also sought to tar his opponent with overblown or unsubstantiated assertions about Hunter Biden’s business dealings there while his father was in office.

“He’s like a vacuum cleaner — he follows his father around collecting,” Mr. Trump said recently, referring to Mr. Biden’s son. “What a disgrace. It’s a crime family.”

In a misleading claim amplified by surrogates like his son Donald Trump Jr. and his lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president has said the younger Mr. Biden “walked out of China” with $1.5 billion after accompanying his father on an official trip in 2013. Numerous news articles and fact-checking sites have explained that the huge figure was actually a fund-raising goal set by an investment firm in which Hunter Biden obtained a 10 percent stake after his father left office. The firm did receive financial backing from a large state-controlled bank, but it is not clear the fund-raising target was ever met, and there is no evidence Hunter Biden received a large personal payout.

As for the former vice president, his public financial disclosures, along with the income tax returns he voluntarily released, show no income or business dealings of his own in China. However, there is ample evidence of Mr. Trump’s efforts to join the myriad American firms that have long done business there — and the tax records for him and his companies that were obtained by The Times offer new details about them.

As with Russia, where he explored hotel and tower projects in Moscow without success, Mr. Trump has long sought a licensing deal in China. His efforts go at least as far back as 2006, when he filed trademark applications in Hong Kong and the mainland. Many Chinese government approvals came after he became president. (The president’s daughter Ivanka Trump also won Chinese trademark approvals for her personal business after she joined the White House staff.)

Trump trademarks that were approved by the Chinese government.Ng Han Guan/Associated Press

A trademark held by the president’s daughter.Mark Schiefelbein/Associated Press

In 2008, Mr. Trump pursued an office tower project in Guangzhou that never got off the ground. But his efforts accelerated in 2012 with the opening of a Shanghai office, and tax records show that one of Mr. Trump’s China-related companies, THC China Development L.L.C., claimed $84,000 in deductions that year for travel costs, legal fees and office expenses.

After effectively planting his flag there, Mr. Trump found a partner in the State Grid Corporation, one of the nation’s largest government-controlled enterprises. Agence France-Presse reported in 2016 that the partnership would have involved licensing and managing a development in Beijing. Mr. Trump was reportedly still pursuing the deal months into his first presidential campaign, but it was abandoned after State Grid became ensnared in a corruption investigation by Chinese authorities.

It is difficult to determine from the tax records precisely how much money Mr. Trump has spent trying to land business in China. The records show that he has invested at least $192,000 in five small companies created specifically to pursue projects there over the years. Those companies claimed at least $97,400 in business expenses since 2010, including some minor payments for taxes and accounting fees as recently as 2018.

[shit, this is longer than the epic of gilgamesh, i ran out of characters]

[!@#$%!]

But Mr. Trump’s plans in China have been largely driven by a different company, Trump International Hotels Management — the one with a Chinese bank account.

The company has direct ownership of THC China Development, but is also involved in management of other Trump-branded properties around the world, and it is not possible to discern from its tax records how much of its financial activity is China-related. It normally reports a few million dollars in annual income and deductible expenses.

In 2017, the company reported an unusually large spike in revenue — some $17.5 million, more than the previous five years’ combined. It was accompanied by a $15.1 million withdrawal by Mr. Trump from the company’s capital account.

On the president’s public financial disclosures for that year, he reported the large revenue figure, and described it only as “management fees and other contract payments.” One significant event for the company that is known to have occurred in 2017 was the buyout of its management contract for the SoHo hotel in New York, which Bloomberg reported to have cost around $6 million.

Mr. Garten would not comment on the specific amount cited by Bloomberg, but said that the contract buyout represented a “significant portion” of the company’s revenue and that the remaining money was not related to China.

Outside of China, Mr. Trump has had more success attracting wealthy Chinese buyers for his properties in other countries. His hotels and towers in Las Vegas and Vancouver, British Columbia — locales known for attracting Chinese real estate investors — have found numerous Chinese purchasers, and in at least one instance drew the attention of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

During the 2016 campaign, a shell company controlled by a Chinese couple from Vancouver bought 11 units, for $3.1 million, in the Las Vegas tower Mr. Trump co-owns with the casino magnate Phil Ruffin. The owner of a Las Vegas-based financial services firm told The Times he was later visited by two F.B.I. agents asking about the company behind the purchases, which he said had used his office address in incorporation papers without his knowledge. It is not known what became of the inquiry.


Protesters outside the Trump International Hotel & Tower in Vancouver, British Columbia, a property that has attracted Chinese buyers.Ben Nelms/Bloomberg
Mr. Garten said the Trump Organization had “never been contacted by the F.B.I. and has no knowledge of any investigation.”

In Vancouver, numerous Chinese buyers of units in Mr. Trump’s hotel and tower helped increase licensing fees from that project to $5.8 million in 2016, the year it was completed, according to tax records. The project was built by a Canadian-based firm controlled by the family of Malaysia’s richest man, Tony Tiah Thee Kian, who operates hotels in China and elsewhere. CNN reported in 2018 that the Vancouver operation was the subject of a counterintelligence review related to Ivanka Trump’s need for a security clearance.

And not long after winning the 2016 election, Mr. Trump reported selling a penthouse in one of his Manhattan buildings for $15.8 million to a Chinese-American businesswoman named Xiao Yan Chen, who bought the unit, previously occupied by Ivanka Trump and her husband, Jared Kushner, in an off-market transaction. Ms. Chen runs an international consulting firm and reportedly has high-level connections to government and political elites in China.

Mr. Trump’s tax records show that he reported a capital gain of at least $5.6 million from the penthouse sale in 2017, his first year as president.

Jo Becker contributed reporting.