The Mighty Football Thread - Page 473

demonrail666 · 06.10.2018, 05:40 AM

Worth considering in England:

FW: Raheem Sterling (9m) is a decent alternative to Kane. Pretty much nailed on and a lot cheaper.

MF: Dele Alli (9m). Has had a bit of a meh season by his standards but is still key to this England set up, so should be fairly safe from rotation. And always a goal/assist threat.

DF:Kyle Walker (6m). Again, he seems pretty nailed on and, besides getting any clean sheet bonuses, is also an attacking threat, so could pick up an assist at some point, and potentially even a goal. Also John Stones (5.5m). Seems equally safe from rotation and does offer an attack threat although maybe not as much as Walker.

GK: Jordan Pickford (5.5m). Looks like he's 1st choice.

There's few real bargains in that team, with anyone remotely cheap either a big rotation risk or offering small points returns even if they play.

h8kurdt · 06.10.2018, 06:03 AM

Like Demo I've think we've become wary of every saying "we have an easy group". The last world cup where we came last, and the last euros where we scraped by onl to be beaten by Iceland. Honestly, I'd be glad if we got out the group stage and I think it's safe to say the fervour England fans got into over the decades isn't there now.

The squad
I's a difficult one to talk about cos Southgate actually has a task on his hands in who to choose. The last two friendlies, whilst significantly different teams, were both very good showings (especially the first halves). For me there are only three nailed on should-be-in-the-team players. Pickford (GK), Henderson (MID), Kane (FWD). After that it's seemingly anyone's guess who'll be playing.

In defence there's the elder player of Cahill who looks like he'd be able to keep Stones or Jones in control. With those two there's always a worry a mistake is at hand. Especially Jones. (fun fact-he went to my school). Southgate seems to be keen on a back 3 with two wing backs for support and there's a lot of other players vying for a place. Delph, Young, Alexander-Arnold, and Trippier could all easily start. Again, who he chooses is a mystery, and again, they all had very good showings in the friendlies to stake a claim.

Midfield
This is another tough one. I've got a feeling Alli to start every game and he's certainly got the goals in him, so I don't think anyone will be nervous about him. Henderson as I said should be a nailed on. Sure he plays for the scum, but there's no denying when he's on it he's irreplaceable. He along with Mane were the only players to come out of the Champions League final knowing they did everything they could.
I've chosen Jesse Lingard in my fantasy team. That'll probably be a mistake but there's no doubting he can come at the defence and ruffle a few feathers. Loftus-Cheek and Dier are both vying for the place of defensive midfielder and personally I prefer Dier. Alhough if you asked 10 different people you'd get even split answers I think.

Forwards
It's all about Kane, innit? He's got the pressure on his shoulders but he isn't doing it alone. I'd love to see Rashford start along with him. The shackles of Mourinho's playing style unleashed him and he played well in the last friendly. A tendency to run himself into walls, but he's still young. That'll come in time. Could be a surprise name in the world cup. Hope he is anyway cos I liek the guy a lot.
Sterling. Sterling, Sterling, Sterling... Scoring 20 goals last season Guardiola did what he does so well and get him playing another level. The guy has had an AMAZING league campaign and shushed the doubters. Except when it comes to his international performances...there's no doubting he can do it, but after Rashford's performance his place was put in balance I think.
Welbeck will the key sub to get a goal when we're desperate I think. Like a super-sub thing.

My starting 11

Pickford
Walker Stones Cahill
Trippier Young
Alli Henderson Dier
Rashford Kane Sterling

This is based on my extremely limited knowledge of football and just who I fancy. Obvs.

Demo can add more I suspect.

demonrail666 · 06.10.2018, 07:56 AM

Henderson isn't nailed on. He'll be competing with Dier for that position and Southgate reckons both will get game time. Neither are worth the risk IMO.

Rashford should get some minutes, and if Sterling starts poorly he could be worth a punt, but to begin with, anyway, I think it's Sterling's place to lose with Rashford more likely to be used as an impact sub.

!@#$%! · 06.10.2018, 08:41 AM

i wrote a bunch of stuff and got vaporized while i was checking some facts.

anyway i watch bundesliga but have not been able to catch germany’s friendlies.

however i think werner is money in the bank this tournament. he’s the best out and out attacker germany has AND germany is in an “easy” group. looks highly priced vs. other players but not vs. other forwards.

reus is the other good deal i spot there, cheaper than gomez (!) and mueller, but he’s prone to injury and could be easily knocked out. listed on the game as a forward though he's an attacking midfielder.

on defense i think kimmich has already been spotted by “the market”. hummels has been so-so and boateng coming back from injury... boateng is fantastic when in good form though.

keepers another question mark. neuer just returned from a broken foot and ter stegen would be the safer choice but dont know who loew will pick here.

i was getting some notes on south americans but will have to leave for separate post because if i switch tabs again this will disappear.

h8kurdt · 06.10.2018, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666

Henderson isn't nailed on. He'll be competing with Dier for that position and Southgate reckons both will get game time. Neither are worth the risk IMO.

Rashford should get some minutes, and if Sterling starts poorly he could be worth a punt, but to begin with, anyway, I think it's Sterling's place to lose with Rashford more likely to be used as an impact sub.

Yeah, Henderson who I think should be nailed on. Gonna be interesting eitherway

h8kurdt · 06.10.2018, 10:04 AM

I had been looking at Timo a fair bit but ended up with Griezzman and Suarez. Sure I'll change my mind and air bit before Thursday!

!@#$%! · 06.10.2018, 11:19 AM

yeah suarez good idea there. if you're looking for another south american to score maybe peru's guerrero would be the one. he's a star in brazilian football and other than france peru's group looks manageable. the other is flores who is an attacking midfielder but listed her as a forward. i've picked flores.

this is kinda who i see making it from each group. maybe a little american-friendly sure why not (the continent not the country)

A = russia + uruguay
B = portugal + spain
C = france + peru
D = argentina + ?
E = brazil + costa rica
F = germany + mexico
G = belgium + england
H = colombia + ?

per that scheme, ospina looks like a keeper w/ good chances actually
except when he faces lewandowski... just checked japan's squad and dont think honda + kagawa will cause miracles, don't know about senegal though.

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on another game artifact (or purposeful categorization?), mascherano listed as defender not midfielder.

h8kurdt · 06.10.2018, 12:10 PM

Russia?!

If that team get a 2 points in all the group stages I'll be surprised.

!@#$%! · 06.10.2018, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt

Russia?!

If that team get a 2 points in all the group stages I'll be surprised.

im counting on player #12 vladimir putin to get them through

not even joking

this is fifa

plus theyre in russia where anything from sound weapons to low-grade poison are... quite viable?

unfortunately

!@#$%! · 06.10.2018, 02:41 PM

okay ive reentered the league as O_Mutante

h8kurdt · 06.11.2018, 04:20 PM

Finally got my team to where I want it. Here's the squad

De Gea (SPN)
Godin (UGY) Koulibaly (SEN) Arias (CLB)
B.Silva (POR) De Bruyne (BEL) Paulinho (BRA) Coutinho (BRA) Yotun (PER)
Suarez (UGY) Werner (GER)

That midfield...juicy

h8kurdt · 06.11.2018, 04:21 PM

Btw, who's Werrahesse?

!@#$%! · 06.11.2018, 04:40 PM

i've got

courtois (bel)
boateng (ger) stones (eng) marcelo (bra) varane (fra)
b silva (por) cuadrado (col) james (col)
flores (per) reus (ger) werner (ger)

on the bench are
carvallo (per) fazio (arg) honda (jap) casemiro (bra)

not sure this is final. afeared of reus + boateng injuries tbh

demonrail666 · 06.12.2018, 12:34 AM

I'll make changes before the deadline but here's where I'm at right now:

GK:SZCSEZNY (Pol) SCHMEICHEL (Den)

DF:GODIN (Ur) ALBA (Sp) MEUNIER (Be) MARCELO (Br) IDOWU (Ni)

MF:SAMEDEV (Ru) ISCO (Sp) MEULLER (Ge) NDIAYE (Se) C SANCHEZ (Co)

FW:CAVANI (Ur) JESUS (Br) MOSES (Ni)

h8kurdt · 06.12.2018, 03:52 AM

Actually kinda surprised how few players we have overlapping. I'm now umming and aahing about keeping Werner. Will it be too much pressure on his shoulders? Not cos I've chosen him I mean!

So Belgium beat Egypt 4-1 last night and everyone is bleating on saying they're gonna win the cup. Im praying to the footballing Gods the England batter em. "I would love it if we beat them, love it" *intense stare*

h8kurdt · 06.13.2018, 03:47 AM

One more sleep!!

*Screams at the top of his lungs*

h8kurdt · 06.13.2018, 05:59 AM

Spain manager sacked! Drama!

demonrail666 · 06.13.2018, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt

Spain manager sacked! Drama!

Major wtf moment. Lopetegui's going to Real, apparently. But must be more to it than that.

h8kurdt · 06.13.2018, 06:12 AM

Yeah, it's an odd one. Supposedly the players have all said they're fine with it and we're willing to let him carry on. Gotta love a bit of early world cup drama to get the excitement up a bit.

Oh...see USA, Mexico, and Canada have won the 2026 bid. Been a while since USA or Mexico have had it -_- Yes I'm still bitter about the fact England haven't had it since 66. Cunts.

Bertrand · 06.13.2018, 09:05 AM

I don't get the sacking.
Bad timing.
That said, Spain's above most of the other teams.
So, if they win, who'll say the cup is theirs? The most inflated ego of the group? The Spanish federation?
Will I have to get Isco the fantasy boot?

06.10.2018, 05:40 AM	#9441
demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	Worth considering in England: FW: Raheem Sterling (9m) is a decent alternative to Kane. Pretty much nailed on and a lot cheaper. MF: Dele Alli (9m). Has had a bit of a meh season by his standards but is still key to this England set up, so should be fairly safe from rotation. And always a goal/assist threat. DF:Kyle Walker (6m). Again, he seems pretty nailed on and, besides getting any clean sheet bonuses, is also an attacking threat, so could pick up an assist at some point, and potentially even a goal. Also John Stones (5.5m). Seems equally safe from rotation and does offer an attack threat although maybe not as much as Walker. GK: Jordan Pickford (5.5m). Looks like he's 1st choice. There's few real bargains in that team, with anyone remotely cheap either a big rotation risk or offering small points returns even if they play.
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06.10.2018, 06:03 AM	#9442
h8kurdt invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In Mulder's Basement room Posts: 5,459	Like Demo I've think we've become wary of every saying "we have an easy group". The last world cup where we came last, and the last euros where we scraped by onl to be beaten by Iceland. Honestly, I'd be glad if we got out the group stage and I think it's safe to say the fervour England fans got into over the decades isn't there now. The squad I's a difficult one to talk about cos Southgate actually has a task on his hands in who to choose. The last two friendlies, whilst significantly different teams, were both very good showings (especially the first halves). For me there are only three nailed on should-be-in-the-team players. Pickford (GK), Henderson (MID), Kane (FWD). After that it's seemingly anyone's guess who'll be playing. In defence there's the elder player of Cahill who looks like he'd be able to keep Stones or Jones in control. With those two there's always a worry a mistake is at hand. Especially Jones. (fun fact-he went to my school). Southgate seems to be keen on a back 3 with two wing backs for support and there's a lot of other players vying for a place. Delph, Young, Alexander-Arnold, and Trippier could all easily start. Again, who he chooses is a mystery, and again, they all had very good showings in the friendlies to stake a claim. Midfield This is another tough one. I've got a feeling Alli to start every game and he's certainly got the goals in him, so I don't think anyone will be nervous about him. Henderson as I said should be a nailed on. Sure he plays for the scum, but there's no denying when he's on it he's irreplaceable. He along with Mane were the only players to come out of the Champions League final knowing they did everything they could. I've chosen Jesse Lingard in my fantasy team. That'll probably be a mistake but there's no doubting he can come at the defence and ruffle a few feathers. Loftus-Cheek and Dier are both vying for the place of defensive midfielder and personally I prefer Dier. Alhough if you asked 10 different people you'd get even split answers I think. Forwards It's all about Kane, innit? He's got the pressure on his shoulders but he isn't doing it alone. I'd love to see Rashford start along with him. The shackles of Mourinho's playing style unleashed him and he played well in the last friendly. A tendency to run himself into walls, but he's still young. That'll come in time. Could be a surprise name in the world cup. Hope he is anyway cos I liek the guy a lot. Sterling. Sterling, Sterling, Sterling... Scoring 20 goals last season Guardiola did what he does so well and get him playing another level. The guy has had an AMAZING league campaign and shushed the doubters. Except when it comes to his international performances...there's no doubting he can do it, but after Rashford's performance his place was put in balance I think. Welbeck will the key sub to get a goal when we're desperate I think. Like a super-sub thing. My starting 11 Pickford Walker Stones Cahill Trippier Young Alli Henderson Dier Rashford Kane Sterling This is based on my extremely limited knowledge of football and just who I fancy. Obvs. Demo can add more I suspect. __________________ Down with this sort of thing.
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06.10.2018, 07:56 AM	#9443
demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	Henderson isn't nailed on. He'll be competing with Dier for that position and Southgate reckons both will get game time. Neither are worth the risk IMO. Rashford should get some minutes, and if Sterling starts poorly he could be worth a punt, but to begin with, anyway, I think it's Sterling's place to lose with Rashford more likely to be used as an impact sub.
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06.10.2018, 08:41 AM	#9444
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,548	i wrote a bunch of stuff and got vaporized while i was checking some facts. anyway i watch bundesliga but have not been able to catch germany’s friendlies. however i think werner is money in the bank this tournament. he’s the best out and out attacker germany has AND germany is in an “easy” group. looks highly priced vs. other players but not vs. other forwards. reus is the other good deal i spot there, cheaper than gomez (!) and mueller, but he’s prone to injury and could be easily knocked out. listed on the game as a forward though he's an attacking midfielder. on defense i think kimmich has already been spotted by “the market”. hummels has been so-so and boateng coming back from injury... boateng is fantastic when in good form though. keepers another question mark. neuer just returned from a broken foot and ter stegen would be the safer choice but dont know who loew will pick here. i was getting some notes on south americans but will have to leave for separate post because if i switch tabs again this will disappear.
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06.10.2018, 10:04 AM	#9446
h8kurdt invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In Mulder's Basement room Posts: 5,459	I had been looking at Timo a fair bit but ended up with Griezzman and Suarez. Sure I'll change my mind and air bit before Thursday! __________________ Down with this sort of thing.
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06.10.2018, 11:19 AM	#9447
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,548	yeah suarez good idea there. if you're looking for another south american to score maybe peru's guerrero would be the one. he's a star in brazilian football and other than france peru's group looks manageable. the other is flores who is an attacking midfielder but listed her as a forward. i've picked flores. this is kinda who i see making it from each group. maybe a little american-friendly sure why not (the continent not the country) A = russia + uruguay B = portugal + spain C = france + peru D = argentina + ? E = brazil + costa rica F = germany + mexico G = belgium + england H = colombia + ? per that scheme, ospina looks like a keeper w/ good chances actually except when he faces lewandowski... just checked japan's squad and dont think honda + kagawa will cause miracles, don't know about senegal though. - on another game artifact (or purposeful categorization?), mascherano listed as defender not midfielder.
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06.10.2018, 12:10 PM	#9448
h8kurdt invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In Mulder's Basement room Posts: 5,459	Russia?! If that team get a 2 points in all the group stages I'll be surprised. __________________ Down with this sort of thing.
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06.10.2018, 02:41 PM	#9450
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,548	okay ive reentered the league as O_Mutante
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06.11.2018, 04:20 PM	#9451
h8kurdt invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In Mulder's Basement room Posts: 5,459	Finally got my team to where I want it. Here's the squad De Gea (SPN) Godin (UGY) Koulibaly (SEN) Arias (CLB) B.Silva (POR) De Bruyne (BEL) Paulinho (BRA) Coutinho (BRA) Yotun (PER) Suarez (UGY) Werner (GER) That midfield...juicy __________________ Down with this sort of thing.
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06.11.2018, 04:21 PM	#9452
h8kurdt invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In Mulder's Basement room Posts: 5,459	Btw, who's Werrahesse? __________________ Down with this sort of thing.
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06.11.2018, 04:40 PM	#9453
!@#$%! invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: mars attacks Posts: 42,548	i've got courtois (bel) boateng (ger) stones (eng) marcelo (bra) varane (fra) b silva (por) cuadrado (col) james (col) flores (per) reus (ger) werner (ger) on the bench are carvallo (per) fazio (arg) honda (jap) casemiro (bra) not sure this is final. afeared of reus + boateng injuries tbh
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06.12.2018, 12:34 AM	#9454
demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	I'll make changes before the deadline but here's where I'm at right now: GK:SZCSEZNY (Pol) SCHMEICHEL (Den) DF:GODIN (Ur) ALBA (Sp) MEUNIER (Be) MARCELO (Br) IDOWU (Ni) MF:SAMEDEV (Ru) ISCO (Sp) MEULLER (Ge) NDIAYE (Se) C SANCHEZ (Co) FW:CAVANI (Ur) JESUS (Br) MOSES (Ni)
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06.12.2018, 03:52 AM	#9455
h8kurdt invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In Mulder's Basement room Posts: 5,459	Actually kinda surprised how few players we have overlapping. I'm now umming and aahing about keeping Werner. Will it be too much pressure on his shoulders? Not cos I've chosen him I mean! So Belgium beat Egypt 4-1 last night and everyone is bleating on saying they're gonna win the cup. Im praying to the footballing Gods the England batter em. "I would love it if we beat them, love it" intense stare __________________ Down with this sort of thing.
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06.13.2018, 03:47 AM	#9456
h8kurdt invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In Mulder's Basement room Posts: 5,459	One more sleep!! Screams at the top of his lungs __________________ Down with this sort of thing.
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06.13.2018, 05:59 AM	#9457
h8kurdt invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In Mulder's Basement room Posts: 5,459	Spain manager sacked! Drama! __________________ Down with this sort of thing.
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06.13.2018, 06:12 AM	#9459
h8kurdt invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In Mulder's Basement room Posts: 5,459	Yeah, it's an odd one. Supposedly the players have all said they're fine with it and we're willing to let him carry on. Gotta love a bit of early world cup drama to get the excitement up a bit. Oh...see USA, Mexico, and Canada have won the 2026 bid. Been a while since USA or Mexico have had it -_- Yes I'm still bitter about the fact England haven't had it since 66. Cunts. __________________ Down with this sort of thing.
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06.13.2018, 09:05 AM	#9460
Bertrand expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Rennes, France Posts: 1,267	I don't get the sacking. Bad timing. That said, Spain's above most of the other teams. So, if they win, who'll say the cup is theirs? The most inflated ego of the group? The Spanish federation? Will I have to get Isco the fantasy boot?
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