[uhler]

birds of fire is a good record.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by sarramkrop

Weather Report are an incredibly shit band. I mean, bad. That bad.

I think you're under-playing their shitness. They really are that bad.

I sometimes check out the latest recommendations on noise-y rock, but that's mainly because I get periodic panic attacks about ending up enjoying Dido (who is, incidentally, 340.2% less shit than Weather Report). I listen to the noise-y rock, and I think 'well, it's ever-so-slightly less shit than Dido, so I don't own a Volvo/ German Shepherd yet'. But soon, oh yes...

[atsonicpark]

Haha.

 

[gmku]

After watching the Hendrix doc on VH1 last night (I first saw it in the 70s), I have a real hankering for that reissue of the Monterey Pop Festival Hendrix LP I saw at the record store a while back. What an amazing performance.

[Savage Clone]

Originally Posted by batreleaser

whoa, what the hell is wrong with people making traditional music of another country? what the fuck is wrong with making music youre interested in regardless of what fucking country its from?

Originally Posted by batreleaser

i just dont understand why anyone would still be making folk music...

So it's OK to ape folk music forms that sound "exotic" to you, but not folk forms that are familiar to your geological and/or ethnic roots?
Or perhaps you're simply a little know-it-all without the perspective to back up your endless streams of self-satisfied rhetoric.

 

[MellySingsDoom]

^^^Ooh, you tease sarram.

As any fule kno, the best album so far this Jahr be Portishead's "3".

[atsonicpark]

so, no surprise to anyone, i've changed my vote.

secret chiefs 3 - xaphan: book of angels 9

album of the year.

[atsonicpark]

seriously, go pick this up, it's amazing.

[batreleaser]

Originally Posted by Savage Clone

So it's OK to ape folk music forms that sound "exotic" to you, but not folk forms that are familiar to your geological and/or ethnic roots?
Or perhaps you're simply a little know-it-all without the perspective to back up your endless streams of self-satisfied rhetoric.

so, let me get this straight, all exotic/foreign music is folk music? no, its not, so whatever.

i just think it comes down to the fact that i like bands who have some exotic influences, like rick bishop, amps for christ, secret chiefs 3, etc.., and i dont like any of the bands who fall into the folk revival or whatever the fuck you wanna call it scene, devandra, lavender diamond, all that shit, it bores me.

and those posts have nothing to do with one another.

i hate how everything posted on this board gets dissected, the things i say are my opinion, what sounds nice to me and what sounds bad/boring/shitty.

[Glice]

While I appreciate your last sentence, I'd like to point out that 'folk' music is by no means a synonym for 'boring, ugly fuckers with acoustic guitars singing shitly'. I have a faint theory that involves hip-hop and Hardcore (Happy and otherwise) being sorts of folk musics; I don't consider Dylan to be folk (on account of oft-mentioned shitness).

[batreleaser]

ok well, im applying the term to, as you put it so succinctly, "boring, ugly fuckers with acoustic guitars singing shitily" type folk.

but oddly, nick drake is one of my favorite artists, but i duno if hes folk per se, singer songwriter, ditto leanord cohen.

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by Glice

I have a faint theory that involves hip-hop and Hardcore (Happy and otherwise) being sorts of folk musics

death metal & black metal too

[fugazifan]

i would definatly put rick bishop in the folk revival category. not in a bad way, because he is one of my favorites, but one cant deny the obvious, and i like most of the new folk people that i hear (bt the cool ones, not people like sujan stevens)

[Savage Clone]

Originally Posted by batreleaser

so, let me get this straight, all exotic/foreign music is folk music? no, its not, so whatever.

i just think it comes down to the fact that i like bands who have some exotic influences, like rick bishop, amps for christ, secret chiefs 3, etc.., and i dont like any of the bands who fall into the folk revival or whatever the fuck you wanna call it scene, devandra, lavender diamond, all that shit, it bores me.

and those posts have nothing to do with one another.

i hate how everything posted on this board gets dissected, the things i say are my opinion, what sounds nice to me and what sounds bad/boring/shitty.

You were talking about the traditional music of other countries. "Folk" music is the music traditionally made by the "everyday/common" people living in a certain geographical area in a certain time, by one of its most commonly understood definitions. Your posts had everything to do with one another in that context. Someone from India deciding to do a version of "Barbara Allen" would be doing the same thing you are talking about. I consider Amps For Christ to be a folk group too, and a great one.
There are any number of great modern folk groups that would be doing what they do regardless of prevailing trends, and you obviously know who some of them are (Rick Bishop, Stone Breath, AfC, and a ton more). Stone Breath and its offshoots have been doing "folk music" since way before all this, and will be doing it long after this current wave of interest has waned.
I was just saying your definition was extremely narrow and your perspective came off as super-myopic, whether intentionally or not.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

death metal & black metal too

I'll add Grime, but I wouldn't add Dubstep.

[Everyneurotic]

amateur musicologists are cunts.

[batreleaser]

gotcha. well, i dont know a whole lot about folk, so, i suppose my view could be narrow.

amps for christ i could never consider solely a folk band, i mean, theres so many different sounds going on in that band, some extreme, some exotic, some folk. whatever, all i meant to say was i dont like the "new weird america" scene as tagged by wire in the early 90's, thats it.

[Savage Clone]

I think DJ Spooky has referred to himself as folk music before. I wouldn't argue this in the slightest by modern application of the term.

I think these newer groups like Amps For Christ are still folk groups, they are just working in modern times with modern stuff, so obviously the modern influences are there. I do agree somewhat with what you were saying in the sense that I'm not really interested in super-preservationist, "museum piece" folk music that sounds identical for all time. It's meant to be a living form, so our modern warping of these forms is a pretty logical progression in the modern era.

[Glice]

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

amateur musicologists are cunts.

Ooh. Get her.