[MellySingsDoom]

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence

I have zero insight beyond what's been posted in this thread, but it seems like Thurston may have permanently relocated to London

Yes indeed - yer man is currently resident in Stoke Newington, and can be seen at various shows at Cafe Oto, in nearby Dalston.

[Rob Instigator]

has stu666 been stalking him at Cafe OTO?

[MellySingsDoom]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

has stu666 been stalking him at Cafe OTO?

Nah, I think stu's way too much into the music side of things at Oto-land to be doing with stalking bizness. Mind you, I wonder if TM's gonna turn up to the Multitap whatsit there this weekend?

[stu666]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

has stu666 been stalking him at Cafe OTO?

I go to loads of different gigs, last year I went to OTO about 20 times and only 5 of those were to see Thurston. Saying that, he is one of my favourite artists and I did see him 21 times in total last year.... I wouldn't call it stalking though.

[Genteel Death]

Thurston is not dead btw. He's well and alive and lives in former lezzer-centre Stoke Newington.

[Genteel Death]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

HOLY SHIT! IT'S HAPPENED!!

 

it wasn't really well received either. it wasn't like "oh, here be another masterpiece". mixed reviews is more like it.

then again you never showed that much enthusiasm for music in general on this forum, so i don't know how skewed your perception is.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

then again you never showed that much enthusiasm for music in general on this forum, so i don't know how skewed your perception is.

VERY skewed-- I mean it's mine and mine alone. Right?

I love music but generally find it hard to talk about it, because it seems to me, unless you know music theory (and I don't), and the right terminology, it's kind of content-free, without "meaning" proper, and untranslatable. In other words-- while I'm sensorily equipped to enjoy music a lot, I'm intellectually ill-equipped to talk or write about it.

I do have a good memory of the things I read though, and I remember the reviews people here wrote for The Eternal were mixed, and favorable in the aggregate, but far from stellar [eta: my own personal opinion was overall negative, so i'm not skewing my recollection of the group reviews to fit my opinion if that's what you meant.]

[zelocia]

Originally Posted by bloodcrystallisetosand

The Eternal actually literally makes me sad in a way no other record does - such poor writing, such boring jamz, such sterile production. Demolished thoughts and Trees were both great records, shame thurston has tried to revert to some kind of pre-sy state and be a shouty punk teen since te split. I'm glad Lee got Steve in the (real) divorce. Thurston can still do the improv stuff, hopefully CLM and this 'era' are just blips and his songwriting will get better again.

I agree with this 100% (no pun intended).

[dasx]

Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence

I have zero insight beyond what's been posted in this thread, but it seems like Thurston may have permanently relocated to London, put together a new band (aka Thurston Moore UK), recorded some songs with them ("Detonation" etc), and is releasing a solo album comprised of these songs as well as Chelsea Light Moving leftovers. I say "leftovers" only because it seems like CLM may be on hiatus/finished due to the relocation. The video being released as Thurston Moore rather than CLM is what leads me to think this.

Could be wrong about everything, maybe CLM will remain his "North American touring band"?

I think it's better that Thurston is making music as a leading artist and not trying to start a band. CLM was just a backing band for Thurston, not a real band with collective ideas. Thurston needs to relax and start to write great songs again. It seems he's trying too hard to convince that he's okay and well without Sonic Youth. Probably he's the one who needs SY the most.

[guest]

Originally Posted by !@#$%!

i do miss the sad leprechaun, not sure why he left but i assumed he had ambitions of his own.

I thought it was common knowledge/'fact' that le peen du thurston was somehow caught in the glove of jimmy o's girl...?

[tesla69]

Originally Posted by dasx

CLM was just a backing band for Thurston, not a real band with collective ideas.

then that is a real failure, because the members of that band are top level players in their own right.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

Thurston is not dead btw. He's well and alive and lives in former lezzer-centre Stoke Newington.

How silly of anyone to think so. I mean it's not like anybody's died recently.

We are the people with perpetuating vacuous black holes inside the size of which are vast as fuck. The internet people where even the SY forum is not safe from the spread of this disease of being too depressed and cool to not feel a hint of feeling towards death. Hey man, no-one is dead we got jokes and lesbians and jokes about death and Italian men trying to intimidate others in their speedos and protruding spiders legs... and death and stuff.

How dare you conjure a vague hint of emotion from my dead bones, how dare YOU! It's like a fucking passionless retirement home in here. I feel like kicking it next week how about you? I thought we were friends?! oh glorious nevermind then kill my feelings now OH GREAT ONE!

I agree, Thurston's probably been dead for decades. Lyrics should've been Be a warrior... and come out to play. Like an awesome reference to the film.




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[noisereductions]

Originally Posted by noisereductions

I also loved RR immediately. I talked at length about it at the time being sort of the inverse of The Whitey Album. T had talked in an interview about being influenced by pop like Miley Cirus or uh maybe it was like Cheetah Girls or Pussycat Dolls or soemthing that Coco was into at the time. They wanted to make SY simple pop. It' s interesting. Plus "Reena" is one of my absolute fav SY songs of 2000's.

amazing:

The lead-off track from 'Rather Ripped'. Thurston has this to say about it: "Actually, some of these songs were taken from these short little cues I made for TV commercials. I got a gig early last year to do some TV commercial cues for HSBC bank. I think they used one or two. [...] Right, like 10-second pieces. So I have this whole grab bag of sonic riffs and I did these miniature jams, really concise. For the TV commercials, they said, “We want something that’s like ‘Kool Thing,’” you know? I think that’s what was being used in the temp track for the images they were using. I could write “Kool Thing” all day and every day, but I choose not to. [Laughs] But I really liked making all these miniatures. I thought maybe we should make a whole record of these 10-second songs, that’d be awesome. [...] Some of them were riffs that I fleshed out into songs. I would bring them into rehearsal and the band would develop them into songs. That’s the genesis, certainly, of the first song, “Reena.”

[Genteel Death]

Originally Posted by Diesel

How silly of anyone to think so. I mean it's not like anybody's died recently.

We are the people with perpetuating vacuous black holes inside the size of which are vast as fuck. The internet people where even the SY forum is not safe from the spread of this disease of being too depressed and cool to not feel a hint of feeling towards death. Hey man, no-one is dead we got jokes and lesbians and jokes about death and Italian men trying to intimidate others in their speedos and protruding spiders legs... and death and stuff.

How dare you conjure a vague hint of emotion from my dead bones, how dare YOU! It's like a fucking passionless retirement home in here. I feel like kicking it next week how about you? I thought we were friends?! oh glorious nevermind then kill my feelings now OH GREAT ONE!

I agree, Thurston's probably been dead for decades. Lyrics should've been Be a warrior... and come out to play. Like an awesome reference to the film.




Donations via paypal please. Is this thing on?

We were friends when you were less of an arsehole to me and didn't patronise me the way you do on the post above.

[Diesel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7T1v3DxgKg

[dead_battery]

Originally Posted by Diesel

How silly of anyone to think so. I mean it's not like anybody's died recently.

We are the people with perpetuating vacuous black holes inside the size of which are vast as fuck. The internet people where even the SY forum is not safe from the spread of this disease of being too depressed and cool to not feel a hint of feeling towards death. Hey man, no-one is dead we got jokes and lesbians and jokes about death and Italian men trying to intimidate others in their speedos and protruding spiders legs... and death and stuff.

How dare you conjure a vague hint of emotion from my dead bones, how dare YOU! It's like a fucking passionless retirement home in here. I feel like kicking it next week how about you? I thought we were friends?! oh glorious nevermind then kill my feelings now OH GREAT ONE!

I agree, Thurston's probably been dead for decades. Lyrics should've been Be a warrior... and come out to play. Like an awesome reference to the film.




Donations via paypal please. Is this thing on?

our culture is dedicated to the disavowal of death, and the confused attempt to make hedonism a positive value in itself and live for that entirely.

everyone is terrified of death, but they just want to affect a pose that makes it look like they aren't. smugness, sneering, or straight up dipshittery.

none of us can come up with whatever "art" or entertainment that is gonna make us feel the "passion" again. we should just give up and try a different approach. unless we think hard about the default assumptions that we don't recognize we're working from, it won't work.

[A Thousand Threads]

Originally Posted by dead_battery

our culture is dedicated to the disavowal of death, and the confused attempt to make hedonism a positive value in itself and live for that entirely.

everyone is terrified of death, but they just want to affect a pose that makes it look like they aren't. smugness, sneering, or straight up dipshittery.

none of us can come up with whatever "art" or entertainment that is gonna make us feel the "passion" again. we should just give up and try a different approach. unless we think hard about the default assumptions that we don't recognize we're working from, it won't work.

mhh...
on the other hand, i'm quite fond of enthusiam for culture, music, arts, literature, science or people as a socially very effective force that can be used in various ways.
I mean, things can suck, there might be shitloads of unbelievingly bad poems, paintings, books, songs, stupid music videos... angst-inducing tons of completely useless crap as sugaring for the other economical crap. And yes, there's not much of a chance to not be affected by all this nonsensical information...

but there are many people doing amazing things!
if that's making hedonism a positive value in itself...
more grapes and some wine please!

you are not obsessed with music
you are obsessed with the idea of being obsessed with music
don't choose music
my music - Sleaford Modshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIypGatsq50


I always enjoy reading your thoughts on here and for the most of it, I tend to agree with you, but then sometimes I don't get your implications.

btw.
thank you for the evangelion recommendation in the movie fred. Really enjoyed the series. The Virtual Institute of Vienna said I should check out urotsukidoji next. but i'm not sure...

[dead_battery]

akira and perfect blue are good anime. i havent seen that much of it tbh.

(dont assume that i get the implications of what i'm saying either!)

[Diesel]

We should all take a big brown leaf out of youthoftomorrow, johnnywinternoshow, static harmony, contrelefuckingsexisme, angella, emmah, krastian, luxinterior, wect, danny himself, swa(stika), k-krack,

felicity jones's
Billy bob hawkins's
and Fanny blots book....and pray for forgiveness whilst sat in our housecoats in the garden being warmed by thoughts on Israel.

[EVOLghost]

(Perfect blue is really awesome. Super crazy n shit.)


And Akira...a classic of course.