[xxlouiisxx]

Smashing Pumpkins - even though I bought three CDs of them, an error- and R.E.M., I don't know I just don't like them.

[This Is Not Here]

If someone hasn't commented that 'you should never have to try to like a band, man, its either good or it isn't' by now, I'll eat my hat.

[atsonicpark]

plenty of people have said that

[fugazifan]

i disagree. theres lots of music that takes repeated listens to like. or sometimes once you study a certain kind of music it really grows on you, like early opera and baroque music. sometimes things should be given a second chance
but not always

[fugazifan]

like what? like me?

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by This Is Not Here

If someone hasn't commented that 'you should never have to try to like a band, man, its either good or it isn't' by now, I'll eat my hat.

thanks for reminding us how juveniles think, and how they judge new experiences.

the world is not a dichotomy.

[atsonicpark]

There's music that takes a long time to 100% appreciate -- but I can tell pretty quickly tell if I'll even be able to appreciate any quality of the music enough to listen to it for long periods of time. Luckily, I like probably 80% of the things I hear right away -- I only love probably 10% I hear right away however.

Being dismissive of a band isn't being closeminded, at least not in my case -- I'll listen to a whole album of a band I'm not into before I completely dismiss it. Bad music doesn't grow on me; good music grows on me to become great music but I've never heard a band I've completely hated at first and learned to love it later.

I just don't see the point in trying to like a band.

[Rob Instigator]

you gots to TRY when your brain's pre-conceptions and prejudices and false certainties are telling you to ignore, but you ahve heard many a person who you respect say they enjoy them. hard work makes it better.

like love.....

[atsonicpark]

Music just doesn't challenge me. When I hear a challenging band, that's when I REALLY listen to it. Most music is really easy to digest...

Yeah.. i f I like something hopefully I'll come to love it. But if I hate something I highly doubt I'll ever like it.

[Rob Instigator]

atsonic, you have such a wide range of that avant garde music that you have heard and digested, your opinions about music come froma rarefied air, a strata that most people have not yet reached, or will never reach.

it is like trying to impresss thurston witha great new hardcore band. chances are it will never happen. he has heard too much!

[atsonicpark]

hmm. well I guess that makes sense then.

[Mostly Harmless]

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I too have tried over and over to listen to aerosmith

I fucking hate them

I'm there 100% with you, man.
I don't think there's a band in this world I hate more than Aerosmith. Except I don't try anything- it's routinely forced on me by my best friend.
I don't know if anyone would know what I'm referring to, but there was this old arcade first person shooter that was totally sponsored by Aerosmith. Being a little kid I wasn't familiar with the band but I did distinctly remember that I could never tell if the guy I was fighting for was a man or a woman. And a few weeks ago I was talking with that same Aerosmith adoring best friend, and brought up that odd memory:

-"You remember that old rollerrink?"
-"Yeah, it's still there"
-"And remember that old videogame we'd play, that shooter with the transvestites? Wasn't that pretty fucked up to be open to the public?"
-"That was Steven Tyler, you idiot!"

He was so pissed. =-)

Originally Posted by Derek

I love SP's Siamese Dream but beyond that, I don't get the big deal either.

That's really their only record I own that doesn't half to sound all teenage every other track. Siamese Dream has some really great songs that develop well. On Melancholy you have to deal with such melodramatic shit everyother song.

[pbradley]

Anyways I still believe that some of my most favorite bands I listen to, I liked one song but not the others and then I like two, then three, then all of it. I don't think there is anything shameful about that and that kind of discovery is what really attracts me to music.

[Rob Instigator]

you said it brother!

Originally Posted by pbradley

Your life must be so boring.

Absolutely.

[Decayed Rhapsody]

I definitely am not a believer of just dropping a band completely after a couple of listens. I mean, unless it's complete abhorrent shit sometimes it takes a while to warm up to something. When I was 15 it took me a buncha listens over several months for me to fully appreciate and become addicted to Sonic Youth.

Originally Posted by pbradley

I think you find music that you don't like challenging. The only difference is that you see there is no value in the challenge. Magik Markers, for example. You have often ranted against them in the past. They did challenge you but they changed nothing. You aren't open to things you are closed to, even if you have good reasons to be so.

As far as I'm concerned saying that you find no music challenging is saying that you thoroughly enjoy listening to all music. Dullness is a challenge, mediocrity is a challenge. It is a relative term and even if you buy into whatever faux-transcendent self-image, it will always relate to you. But I doubt those of you that glorify the music historical revolutionary definition of "challenge" will see the flip side when applied to yourself.

Oh c'mon, shut it mate. This is generally the sort of stuff that you hear people say when they are more enamoured with the idea of listening to 'challenging' music rather than appreciating what's entering their ears for how it sounds.

If you spend time challenging yourself to stuff that you already know that you might get but you won't like, I think that you should really sit down and reconsider where your priorities stand when it comes to music.You can argue all you like about this.

[atsonicpark]

That's kinda the point I was trying to make, porky, but you said it way better than I ever could.

You must spread some man-hugs and -kisses before giving it to porky again.

Originally Posted by Decayed Rhapsody

I definitely am not a believer of just dropping a band completely after a couple of listens. I mean, unless it's complete abhorrent shit sometimes it takes a while to warm up to something. When I was 15 it took me a buncha listens over several months for me to fully appreciate and become addicted to Sonic Youth.

In that case you ought to learn what the difference between having a modicum of patience for a band that you feel might come up with the goods and feeling challenged by their records is.

[atsonicpark]

Again, what I was trying to say....

I just think a lot of people feel like they're "supposed" to like something or don't understand why they don't feel the same way about certain bands as other people. I've seen similiar replies on this thread, "I wish I could like them like everyone else does" kinda thing. It's okay to hate shit that everyone else likes! I do it all the time!