[notyourfiend]

sway, you can't always pull yrself up by yr boot straps if you have no boots to begin with

[Genteel Death]

Originally Posted by notyourfiend

all waitresses deserve tips, in the us at least. just by virtue of the fact that they get paid less than $3 an hour.

I electronically share the tips of all waiters here at work and they all get the same, unless you are a manager, in which case your wages more than make up for it. Or if you are a kitchen porter, in which case you get paid more than the waiters anyway. The chefs get one share between them, if they are put on the tronc list by their supervisors. As I am the tronc master, I have to call a meeting every now and then to check that there aren't any problems, and more often than not there is a bit of aggro between the kitchen staff and the front of house staff as to why one area gets individual shares, and another gets one for all.

[Satan]

Originally Posted by notyourfiend

sway, you can't always pull yrself up by yr boot straps if you have no boots to begin with

some people are dealt a shitty hand. so make something of yourself. this is america for christ's sake. don't rely on the government for everything.

[phoenix]

I would rather my taxes be used to pay someone benefits ( provided they have some kind of intention of getting back into work or study ) than have people struggle and end up as drug runners or whatever they decide to 'make of themselves'

meh. It's so easy to lose everything. I just think it's wrong in a civilised society to completely ignore someone who through bad luck or misfortune has had to start over.

don't know what that has to do with health insurance. sorry.

[Satan]

this thread was never really about health insurance anyway.

[phoenix]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

no, we work to pay our bills.....but there are plenty that choose to not pay.


we do have the tendancy to over indluge a bit. people do shit here like take out loans to go on a F U C K I N G VACATION. you cant afford a vacation? go to the park and read a fucking book moron.

I'm not sure it is the majority, though?


and... that is a cultural thing. "We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie stars, and rock gods. But we won't"

you know..

[Satan]

i don't want my money going to anyone else if i don't know exactly who it's going to and for what purpose. hence i am ethically opposed to taxes as well. i'll gladly give a bum on the street a fat stack of cash because i know what it's going towards. he's a bum, he wants to go get high. i don't have a problem with that. poor dude's a bum, the least i can do is buy him a big ass crack rock.

[Genteel Death]

Originally Posted by Satan

this thread was never really about health insurance anyway.

I thought that it was pretty obvious that it was another ''me me me'' thread. Who do you think you'd fool with that?

[Satan]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

im willing to bet every american on this board with an exception of maybe crypto knows someone that has had their utilities cut off or had a car reposssed.

i can give you names + addresses if you want.

broke mfers.

Originally Posted by Genteel Death

I thought that it was pretty obvious that it was another ''me me me'' thread. Who do you think you'd fool with that?

oh porky, i can't pull the wool over your dreamy eyes.

[floatingslowly]

let's stop this madness, hold hands and sing Born in the USA together.

I can feel the pride surging through yr sweaty palms.

[Satan]

i like talking to them a lot. way more interesting than 'regular' people.

[floatingslowly]

something something something foreign land something something kill the yellow maaaan.

[verme (prevaricator)]

by being uninsured, you're actually more expensive for the state, so they'll charge you charge for that.
seems fair.

[notyourfiend]

Originally Posted by swa(y)

no, we work to pay our bills.....but there are plenty that choose to not pay. YES, people will spend their money foolishly on booze/fun/clothes and act like assholes when their lights are cut off. i dont have time for this sort of shit.

have i ever been late on a bill? YES. im not a saint, i pay it when i can though. ive never had a car reposesed. ive never even been threatened w/ being evicted. ive never had my lights cut off.

i HAVE been so poor to where i chose to buy cigs over food. my choice....but my lights were still on at the end of the month.

we do have the tendancy to over indluge a bit. people do shit here like take out loans to go on a F U C K I N G VACATION. you cant afford a vacation? go to the park and read a fucking book moron.

you know, a large problem here is education. a lot of these people never had any sort of financial training.

[Satan]

Originally Posted by verme (prevaricator)

by being uninsured, you're actually more expensive for the state, so they'll charge you charge for that.
seems fair.

they can't charge me if i'm unemployed.


i'm just going to be a burden on all of you.

lol.

[phoenix]

Originally Posted by Satan

they can't charge me if i'm unemployed.


i'm just going to be a burden on all of you.

but this is america. just make something of yourself.

[Satan]

i'm gonna be my own boss babe. i told you that.


"unemployed"

[phoenix]

Originally Posted by floatingslowly

something something something foreign land something something kill the yellow maaaan.

? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLtyT2moYgU

[verme (prevaricator)]

Originally Posted by Satan

i'm gonna be my own boss babe. i told you that.


"unemployed"

seems exciting.

[!@#$%!]

Originally Posted by Satan

btw the reason i'm pissed is because we aren't given a choice/freedom. isn't america supposed to be about freedom and the right to CHOOSE? i simply don't need health insurance. so why should i have to pay for it? good luck getting your greedy paws on my money, pigfuckers.

the worst part is that shit isn't any better anywhere else. i lament coming back here and then i remember that life sucks no matter where you are and who's telling you what to do.

it's the same as having car insurance when you drive. if you crash your insurance covers your fuckup. when you show up at the emergency without insurance, and they treat you, and you can't pay, some other sucker is paying for it with their insurance.

i'm sure even at your age you've had the case when you needed coverage but you didn't have insurance and you had to suffer. it could have been worse and you might not be posting here today.

so, everyone getting insurance is like everyone paying a tax so we can all stay alive a little better. same as we pay taxes that cover roads, the fire department, the cops, food safety controls, etc, etc. *not having your own insurance is a threat to others*.

this "freedom" thing is glenn beck bullshit. stop drinking his kool-aid and think about it. your employer's probably been feeding you such shit cuz they don't wanna pay their employees coverage.

pay for your fucking insurance and the next time you have a problem you'll be well cared for.

Originally Posted by notyourfiend

I once got bombarded for using the term rape to describe global issues of human trafficking. I think that's a much better example of "rape" than the Obama administration taking a little bit more out of our paychecks to help cover us if we get seriously ill.

you didn't get bombarded, your choice of word was simply refuted, if i recall (just like the choice of bombarded). ah, semantics!

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