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To me that is the difference between making songs and being a musician.
A true musician works hard at presenting their music and stage show in the best light for them. It means rehearsals, practice, proper use of light effects, all to create a great show. It can be very basic, but your stage presence is everything, and too many pop rap acts these days are guys who put up 5 songs on Spotify, got one hit that sounded neat, but have no idea how to present themselves at shows, do not have the stamina to perform for longer than 15 minutes, and therefore pad their shows with their friends, extra bullshit, and lame ass nonsense. Lupe Fiasco put on a great show, when I saw him, and you can tell he worked at it beforehand.
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03.11.2016, 01:16 PM | #1082 |
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From what I've gathered, most trap artists are terrible performers. People always complain about how they show up late, high as fuck, and don't give a damn about their performance.
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03.11.2016, 02:26 PM | #1083 |
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Hip Hop seems to be no longer about MC's moving the crowd. It is as vacuous a live show as a pop star's, with some idiot rapping to his full track being played on some cocksmear's ipad.
a live show is superfulous nowadays it seems. what a shame.
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Ha! What. Ha! [EDIT: To alleviate some of peper's confusion, I'M LAUGHING BECAUSE I THINK HE'S FUNNY.] |
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03.11.2016, 10:13 PM | #1085 |
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Did y'all not catch that bit about Kim K. basically saying TLOP was going to go on sale as soon as it was done?
.... Damn, throw a guy a bone! To quote Kendrick Lamar: "when the shit hits the fan is you still a fan?" Well... is you?!?!?!! |
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03.11.2016, 11:47 PM | #1086 | |
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What the fuck is your problem? I was just cracking up about your "dumbass kids are the worst" line. I thought it was funny. I wasn't commenting on the Rob conversation at all. So... you read it wrong. |
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03.11.2016, 11:51 PM | #1087 | |
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You really think I'm a dumbass? Please. You're lucky I don't take a red pen to half your posts, young man. Anyway, again, I was just saying "hah hah, you're funny pepper_green." I do think Rob's question about "dance" music being hard to connect with in a meaningful way is is a good one, and deserves a more analytical answer than what you're giving him. But I wasn't talking about that. I was giving you props for being funny and irreverent. Thanks for insinuating that I'm a dumbass, though. (I'm a lot of things, but "dumb" is not one of them.) |
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03.12.2016, 06:11 AM | #1090 |
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I understand where Rob is coming from by the way, there are many young hip hop listeners who don't care about older artists. The likes of Young Thug (whose appeal is basically a big 'fuck you' to the history of hip hop) are everything for them and more.
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03.12.2016, 02:39 PM | #1091 | |
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I'm not sure what Rob's getting at is actually being addressed. I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem as though his concern is that kids/new artists don't listen to older hip-hop. It seems to me that he's saying: There's something inherent about "non-organic" (for lack of a better terms) music that makes it more transitory and less likely to leave a lasting impression/make a lasting impact. I think in some cases this is true, partly because as Rob noted, there is an immediacy to hip-hop/dance/party music. It's made for one purpose and one purpose only. Also, it's less relatable, because there's kind of an invisible curtain that makes it difficult to identify what the sounds are, where they're coming from, and how they're made. And whether it's hip-hop or dance music, there's a language issue at play. Theses genres rely heavily on vocal samples, and it's more difficult to hear what's being said and usually it can be difficult to relate to what's being said for anyone outside the culture. Guitar/bass/drum/singer music is more traditionally relatable. On a broader level. There's science behind this. When you see four dudes playing live instruments on a stage, hear the words coming out of their mouths, theres a connection that takes place on a human level. It's related to how we attend to and prioritize information, how we learn, how we form memories... If the music is secondary to the dancing, it's a different experience entirely. You don't have time to focus on the people making the music. You're swinging yourself around like a rag doll and you're probably five different kinds of fucked up and if it's just a DJ flipping vinyl, or a monkey with a MacBook, there's no facial or linguistic recognition. Different parts of your brain are activated. It's more "of the moment" ... And therefore less likely to form a lasting memory or emotional connection. But that's not a hard and fast rule. I've been to DJ sets and IDM shows that were extremely emotionally powerful experiences for me. So much so that I remember them years later. But at the same time, I feel like I remember an absurd amount of no-name basement bands better than I remember theatre and arena gigs, regardless of what type of music was being played. And I think it has a lot to do with universal non-verbal communication. A singer looks you in the eye, you notice. Can't see a singer's eyes because you're 80 feet away? Who cares? There are no eyes because you're just listening to a record some dude is spinning? Yeah, very little intimate connection going on there. But I'm a big fan of elecronic music, dance music and hip-hop, so that shit resonates with me fairly well. I'm blah-ing. I know it. Blah. |
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03.12.2016, 03:42 PM | #1092 |
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New Domo Gensis single from his upcoming album "Genesis," featuring our boy Anderson Paak: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLiMrd45I0M
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03.12.2016, 03:43 PM | #1093 |
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It's hilarious how Domo decided to call his album "Genesis" after Wiz called his album "Khalifa," since they both had a project called "Rolling Papers" a few years ago. I'm noticing a pattern.
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03.12.2016, 04:37 PM | #1094 |
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Kanye just said he's gonna drop not 2.. but 3 albums this year?! https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/708670997612908546
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03.12.2016, 04:46 PM | #1095 |
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Wildheart (by Miguel) from last year is mad underrated.. that and Black Messiah are my most played albums, along with TPAB.
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Hey, I was meaning to ask you what you think of his new EP. I listened to the track "Waves" (no relation ) yesterday and thought it was really fucking good. I never got into Wildheart, but I think I'll be picking it up now. Also, I listened to TPAB all the way through on Thurs. and I really enjoyed it. I've identified some of the problems I have with its flow (I just plain can't listen to "u" ... It's painful), but all of the full length non-interlude tracks on that record now have 5-star ratings on my iTunes. My favorites are still "Mortal Man," "Alright" and "The Blacker the Berry," but everything else is goddamn dope too. I just have to skip some of the incidental music and interludes unless I want the whole cinematic experience, which I sometimes do. Still prefer good kid, but TPAB has better individual songs, I think. |
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WAVES is my song! The new EP is dope and really interesting, even though it's just a bunch of Waves remixes. But yeah, get Wildheart for the full experience!
Miguel insists that Wildheart is a rock album.. it's a great mixture of rock, funk, r&b and psychedelic music. I'm very excited by how R&B artists are starting to implement rock elements into their albums again, probably for the first time since the 80's. Honestly that shit is just next level. It adds sexiness and raw energy that is much needed. We heard it on Black Messiah where D'Angelo played a badass riff on 1000 Deaths. And now we've got that new Esperanza album.. even Frank said that his next album is influenced by The Beatles and The Beach Boys, whenever that comes out. I'd love to hear a rock album from Anderson Paak too. And I fully understand how you're feeling about TPAB, it's not the easiest listen in the world for most people. Thankfully we have untitled unmastered. now which is another gem. |
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