Sonic Youth – Smart Bar – Chicago 1985 - Page 6

noisereductions · 11.26.2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by radarmaker

Been waiting until I can pick this up in person at the weekend, but am really looking forward to it, especially reading the above comments - it captures possibly my favourite live period of the band.
Interested to see how it matches up to Walls Have Ears which, in the right frame of mind, is my #1 SY elpee...

back when they announced a live album from 85 coming out I had really hoped that it was going to be a legit remastered CD release of Walls.

Gary Black · 11.26.2012, 05:47 PM

It's freakin awesome when the proper tape takes over in Song1. Such a great album. I'm really hoping they milk the archives and release loads of shows. One from every tour to start!!

whorefrost · 11.26.2012, 06:57 PM

Picked up the double LP today. Liking it. A lot.

EDIT: forgot to mention, the double tracked Thurston vocal on I Love Her All the Time sounds fucking cool, would be interested to know why they did that

whorefrost · 11.27.2012, 08:41 AM

Folks, the David Keenan review has arrived and it is mighty favourable:

"Massively-potent archival live set from Sonic Youth, captured straight to four track during the Bad Moon Rising>Evol era: I was a big collector of Sonic Youth live tapes back in the day and my favourite era was definitely the Evol shows in the mid-80s so this set is a spectacular unearthing, capturing the group at a key moment of transition, with Bob Bert vacating the drum stool in favour of Steve Shelley and the group moving from the strung out American gothic of Bad Moon/Death Valley into the tortuous metal drones of Evol. Buncha highlights here: the first half of the opening “Halloween” is missing from the masters so they segue from an audience recording into the master and it works great, like a slow, psychedelic zoom from crude cassette noise into hi-fi drone; Kim’s tracks are uniformly great, with particular highlights being “Brave Men Run”, “Ghost Bitch”, “Brother James”, “Secret Girl” (earliest live recording of that amazing track) and “Flower”; a reminder of what an amazing twin guitar tag team Ranaldo and Moore were, crashing arcs of feedback into each other and playing with the kind higher-mind string relativities of Verlaine and Lloyd in Television; the spectacular run-out jam on “Expressway To Your Skull” which makes explicit just how much of a debt NZ drone owes to this one momentous track; the appearance of “Kat ‘n’ Hat”, a rare/unrecorded gem; the genesis of that eerie tapes/downtuned guitar style that would dominate the live Evol sets, here sounding particularly feral. This is a timely reminder of what an amazing band Sonic Youth were, especially in their pre-Daydream incarnation, and also what a hip period the 80s were in terms of underground guitar action. Back in the day you just hadda be into Sonic Youth, even if you were an indie dud, and listening to this wild avant rock it’s pretty miraculous they were ever so popular, even if most of the kids I knew at the time went for “Starpower” or “Bubblegum” over “Marilyn Moore “ or “Expressway” and breathed a sigh of relief when they finally dropped Daydream Nation. But for me the heroic period of Sonic Youth is probably 84-87 and this fantastic release perfectly captures the revolutionary arc of the times. Been a bunch of killer archival releases this year but this one goes right to the top of the pile. Comes with a download. Highly recommended!" © Volcanic Tongue 2012

SonicBebs · 11.27.2012, 11:26 AM

picked up this afternoon, cant wait to hear it later

psychtrailmix · 11.29.2012, 01:31 PM

My wife is getting this for me for Christmas - can't wait to hear it!! I love BMR and early SY, and from what you guys are saying, this sounds incredible!

Rob Instigator · 11.29.2012, 02:15 PM

psychtrailmix, you are gonna shit your sonic pants when you hear it. so fucking awesome!

psychtrailmix · 11.29.2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

psychtrailmix, you are gonna shit your sonic pants when you hear it. so fucking awesome!

Nice! Ahhhh, Christmas morning is gonna be fun

another · 12.01.2012, 12:02 PM

found a pic of them supposedly from smart bar, doing ghost bitch:

EVOLghost · 12.01.2012, 04:08 PM

Is that what it's from? I was wondering what song at the time would require an acoustic guitar...

EVOLghost · 12.01.2012, 04:57 PM

well I'll be damned....

noisereductions · 12.01.2012, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

Ghost Bitch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz9aN8LqXvA

amazing find!

Mortte Jousimo · 12.02.2012, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by EVOLghost

Is that what it's from? I was wondering what song at the time would require an acoustic guitar...

When I heard Ghost Bitch in BMR, it really didn´t come in my mind that there is also acoustic guitar. But then I saw also some old version of it from youtube (maybe from Gila Monster Jamboree). BTW is that picture same that is in the Smart Bar vinyl-version gatefold (I haven´t seen the cd-version, so I don´t know are there same pictures as in the vinyl)?

Chris Lawrence · 12.02.2012, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by foreverasskiss

man, i can't believe you SY fans didn't know about this show. it's been on youtube for years now. use to watch it after work while cold and hungry.

http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/lp/vid3.html

Pelle · 12.02.2012, 08:37 AM

Holy shit, I've forgot about this one!
Been in a fucking hole the last weeks :S

noisereductions · 12.02.2012, 09:37 AM

oh it is Live at Stache's! I had a feeling cuz of the weird lighting effects. Yeah I have that on DVDR.

CHOUT · 12.02.2012, 11:02 PM

That pic is inside the sleeve of the album...Upon seeing it, I thought it would've made a good cover photo.

Mortte Jousimo · 12.03.2012, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CHOUT

That pic is inside the sleeve of the album...Upon seeing it, I thought it would've made a good cover photo.

This is just the detail thing, but I just looked today that photo in my home in the vinyl and I think it´s not exactly same. There is some guy in the back of the band in the photo in this thread and I think I didn´t see him in that vinyls photo. I can´t compare vinyl and that thread photo because I don´t have computer in home at the moment (I am now in the library).

But yes, I think also it would have been great cover also for the sake it´s from that gig and the cover photo isn´t.

CHOUT · 12.05.2012, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortte Jousimo

This is just the detail thing, but I just looked today that photo in my home in the vinyl and I think it´s not exactly same. There is some guy in the back of the band in the photo in this thread and I think I didn´t see him in that vinyls photo. I can´t compare vinyl and that thread photo because I don´t have computer in home at the moment (I am now in the library).

But yes, I think also it would have been great cover also for the sake it´s from that gig and the cover photo isn´t.

They photoshopped him out! I just compared the pic on the last page with the lp pic...rocker dude looking on is erased from history!

Dr Chocolate · 12.06.2012, 12:51 AM

finally got it when i got back home and played the fuck out of it
listened to it 3 times the night i got it
then at least another 5 or 7 more times that week
its a fucking great sounding show
way better then what i was thinking
because i wasn't under the impression it'd be a 4 track tape with a board feed
as i haven't really heard alot of the live shows they have put out
but i think this one tops Hold That Tiger
which i mustve heard 100s and 100s of times by now
but wow!
just fucking wow!
amazing preformance!
i was under the impression it was to be a 180 gram pressing
i'm guessing that i'm wrong
i've seen it in a few stores along the ways and didn't see any at 180 gram

11.26.2012, 05:47 PM	#102
Gary Black little trouble girl Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 32	It's freakin awesome when the proper tape takes over in Song1. Such a great album. I'm really hoping they milk the archives and release loads of shows. One from every tour to start!!
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11.26.2012, 06:57 PM	#103
whorefrost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arrived in Smoke, Arrived in Gold Posts: 2,569	Picked up the double LP today. Liking it. A lot. EDIT: forgot to mention, the double tracked Thurston vocal on I Love Her All the Time sounds fucking cool, would be interested to know why they did that __________________ hehehe
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11.27.2012, 08:41 AM	#104
whorefrost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arrived in Smoke, Arrived in Gold Posts: 2,569	Folks, the David Keenan review has arrived and it is mighty favourable: "Massively-potent archival live set from Sonic Youth, captured straight to four track during the Bad Moon Rising>Evol era: I was a big collector of Sonic Youth live tapes back in the day and my favourite era was definitely the Evol shows in the mid-80s so this set is a spectacular unearthing, capturing the group at a key moment of transition, with Bob Bert vacating the drum stool in favour of Steve Shelley and the group moving from the strung out American gothic of Bad Moon/Death Valley into the tortuous metal drones of Evol. Buncha highlights here: the first half of the opening “Halloween” is missing from the masters so they segue from an audience recording into the master and it works great, like a slow, psychedelic zoom from crude cassette noise into hi-fi drone; Kim’s tracks are uniformly great, with particular highlights being “Brave Men Run”, “Ghost Bitch”, “Brother James”, “Secret Girl” (earliest live recording of that amazing track) and “Flower”; a reminder of what an amazing twin guitar tag team Ranaldo and Moore were, crashing arcs of feedback into each other and playing with the kind higher-mind string relativities of Verlaine and Lloyd in Television; the spectacular run-out jam on “Expressway To Your Skull” which makes explicit just how much of a debt NZ drone owes to this one momentous track; the appearance of “Kat ‘n’ Hat”, a rare/unrecorded gem; the genesis of that eerie tapes/downtuned guitar style that would dominate the live Evol sets, here sounding particularly feral. This is a timely reminder of what an amazing band Sonic Youth were, especially in their pre-Daydream incarnation, and also what a hip period the 80s were in terms of underground guitar action. Back in the day you just hadda be into Sonic Youth, even if you were an indie dud, and listening to this wild avant rock it’s pretty miraculous they were ever so popular, even if most of the kids I knew at the time went for “Starpower” or “Bubblegum” over “Marilyn Moore “ or “Expressway” and breathed a sigh of relief when they finally dropped Daydream Nation. But for me the heroic period of Sonic Youth is probably 84-87 and this fantastic release perfectly captures the revolutionary arc of the times. Been a bunch of killer archival releases this year but this one goes right to the top of the pile. Comes with a download. Highly recommended!" © Volcanic Tongue 2012 __________________ hehehe
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11.27.2012, 11:26 AM	#105
SonicBebs expwy. to yr skull Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,680	picked up this afternoon, cant wait to hear it later __________________ https://soundcloud.com/lamstonite http://lamstonite.bandcamp.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/lamstonite
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11.29.2012, 01:31 PM	#106
psychtrailmix empty page Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 28	My wife is getting this for me for Christmas - can't wait to hear it!! I love BMR and early SY, and from what you guys are saying, this sounds incredible!
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11.29.2012, 02:15 PM	#107
Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,975	psychtrailmix, you are gonna shit your sonic pants when you hear it. so fucking awesome! __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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12.01.2012, 12:02 PM	#109
another little trouble girl Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 42	found a pic of them supposedly from smart bar, doing ghost bitch:
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12.01.2012, 04:08 PM	#110
EVOLghost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: cybatraz! Posts: 11,537	Is that what it's from? I was wondering what song at the time would require an acoustic guitar...
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12.01.2012, 04:57 PM	#111
EVOLghost invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: cybatraz! Posts: 11,537	well I'll be damned....
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12.02.2012, 08:37 AM	#115
Pelle expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,725	Holy shit, I've forgot about this one! Been in a fucking hole the last weeks :S
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12.02.2012, 09:37 AM	#116
noisereductions invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New England, USA Posts: 16,210	oh it is Live at Stache's! I had a feeling cuz of the weird lighting effects. Yeah I have that on DVDR. __________________ noisereduxinstalled.weebly.com
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12.02.2012, 11:02 PM	#117
CHOUT invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Minneapolis MN Posts: 3,128	That pic is inside the sleeve of the album...Upon seeing it, I thought it would've made a good cover photo. __________________ Chout's rare Sonic Youth vids: http://youtube.com/SONICchout
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12.06.2012, 12:51 AM	#120
Dr Chocolate children of satan Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: woly boly Posts: 275	finally got it when i got back home and played the fuck out of it listened to it 3 times the night i got it then at least another 5 or 7 more times that week its a fucking great sounding show way better then what i was thinking because i wasn't under the impression it'd be a 4 track tape with a board feed as i haven't really heard alot of the live shows they have put out but i think this one tops Hold That Tiger which i mustve heard 100s and 100s of times by now but wow! just fucking wow! amazing preformance! i was under the impression it was to be a 180 gram pressing i'm guessing that i'm wrong i've seen it in a few stores along the ways and didn't see any at 180 gram
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