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He clearly has Ibold envy.
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Ibold's awesome. I love his bass lines on the album.
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Ouch, you know Jim felt that one. That said, Ibold loves the Youth in a way that Jim never could. Like, you look at all of the promotional photographs with Jim in them and you're all "Oh look, it's Sonic Youth and Jim," but when you look at the ones with Ibold in them you're just "Oh look, it's SONIC YOUTH." Their smiles seem to be more genuine too, like they really mean it this time and they're not just faking. When you go from oil and water to a delicious mixed drink, the contrast is mightily stark. True flavor abound.
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what if..........jim joined them on stage in japan???
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what if jim joined mark ibold in backstage?
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and you're the one who gets fed up with greedrex homo fantasies?
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first of all fuck pitchfork up the ass. Seriously why do i (or you or anyone) care what they say? I like it and i know as much as they do. also it's interesting you say you "appreciate SY older records"... i take that to means that they are ok but when you listen to SY you listen to newer stuff like Washing machine and Sonic Nurse... 2 albums i 'appreciate' but can't really say i ' like' as much as their older stuff. Or I may be reading too much into it since English isn't your primary language. |
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I think anyone waiting for P4K to pan this thing shouldn't hold their breath, Sacred Trickster got a glowing review.
Anyway these folks are obviously the band. SY are testing us!
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Sister, Washing Machine and Murray Street are probably my favorite records by them. Sister sometimes gets switched out with Daydream Nation, and Murray Street with Sonic Nurse despite having some less-than-interesting tracks. And then there's the fact that I love the majority of songs on probably most of their records except "Goo," EJSTNS, ATL, "Rather Ripped" (which is about 50-50), Confusion is Sex (sorta?) and obviously The Eternal. I don't know what exactly is Phish-y/jam band-y about the ATL through now stuff except for "Hits of Sunshine," which I thought was about as boring as they could get until this album. If anything, the Jim O'Rourke albums had elements of classic rock, not jam band music. |
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same here. aside from daydream nation, experimental jet set..., a thousand leaves and bad moon rising... i have not liked any sy that much on the first few listens. i thought evol was so boring on the first few listens and now it's my second favorite sy album ever. |
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that's just the feeling i got from Murray street to RR.. more kinda middle age jammy vibe (perhaps classic rock is a better way to put it i don't know). This album is certanly a break from tht rut and i'm glad for it as long as it isn't just another rut they fall into. Just about the only albums i don't like are ATL (i actively hate that album actually it's an abortion) and EJSTNS (it seemed the bad went out of it's way to make an album that would drive away fans of Dirty). Again i agree it is sonic youth ripping themselves off... it's just that i don't mind that. I have friends that have compleatly stopped liking them from the late 90's on and i really want to get their reaction to this. |
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Just for those wondering why the newbs opinions matter less... probably because no-one knows you, if you stick around people will get to know you and value your opinions. Just like in real life if someone you don't know gives you their opinion on something and you disagree you tend to discount more of it because of the fact that you don't know them. Unless of course it is someone like a lecturer, doctor, a respected person in your part of the world. So stop wondering why the regular posters will discount what you think about the Eternal... particularly after only hearing it for a few days...
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Ibold's a really chill guy so he wouldn't be jealous at all, but I imagine Jim being really passive aggressive towards him. Just a bad scene.
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A Thousand Leaves, Goo, and Confusion is Sex you'd list among yr "bad" Sonic Youth albums? Really? I mean, really? |
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I have never read so much crap on this board as I have in the last couple of days.
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I agree with the "super tight and very energetic" thing. I have listened to it like 30 times now. Anti orgasm is really cool. Antenna sounds great!!! And What we know, Lee sings beautifuly! ![]() |
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I wouldn't say they're bad ... just not my favorites by a long shot. A Thousand Leaves doesn't have almost anything on it as good as SYR 1. Goo sounds like junk, no matter what anybody says and no matter what they did to it for the remaster, has them absorbing a little too much generic rock for my tastes, and it doesn't play very well as an album to me. Some great songs though ... on all of them, 1982 - 2006. |
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I don't think SY made the album to satisfy your needs johnny... Maybe you should put forth your own spiel to SY, just so they can tell you to where to go. Life evolves, attitudes change, influences change during a 30 odd year career belting out music. If you don't like what you hear it is really simple don't purchase the goods, after all it is your own personal right. Otherwise, sit back and just enjoy it for what it is the next stage in SY Life ![]() |
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No, that would be way too rational for the internetz. To Johnny: if you think Eternal is the worst album SY's ever done, fine. You at least gave some thought-out reasons for that, even if I disagree with your opinion. But did it actually "break your heart," or are you just being overly dramatic to be an attention whore? Because it's just music, man. It's entertainment, not life and death. If you enjoy the tunes, listen to them; don't listen to the tunes that don't bring you enjoyment. If it truly broke your heart, you might need to just take a step back and lay off SY (and all music perhaps) for a while. Maybe read some books, maybe watch the complete Twin Peaks over the course of a month...something to get your mind off it for a while.
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I could have said "The Eternal sucks, you guys" or something dumb like that and still gotten the same amount of attention/antipathy towards what I said. I do not think that music/art should be reduced with the qualifier "just" or "only." Art or entertainment or music may not be a matter of "life and death" but it most certainly is a matter of (and one of the best parts of) life, for me, right up there with, you know, friends, warm weather and babies or whatever. Don't you get the fun of being a fan of something? It's caring irrationally about something that gives you pleasure! In this case, it's caring irrationally that a generally infallible musical outfit let me way the hell down; expressing utter disappointment and even shock is any fan's right. You know, like the old cry of "sell out!" replaced with a more rare "Sudden incompetence? WTF?!" Is this really that hard for everybody to understand? |
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