Steve Albini Goes Off on Sonic Youth - Page 6

Adolfo · 10.11.2010, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Moshe

http://pitchfork.com/features/articl...f-sonic-youth/

don't have time to read all this....

nicfit · 10.11.2010, 02:58 AM

I suppose that guy gets paid by the word.
Honestly, I'm kiddin and I don't want to sound "disrespectful", coz that's a sort of "recap" written by a sy fan after all, but it's quite an unnecessary read for people who knows SY a bit.
I can see it have some "usefulness" for younger pitchfork audience perhaps, but I think a good portion of those who know Albini enough to give a damn about what he says do also know SY a bit...dunno.
I'm ranty.

Toilet & Bowels · 10.11.2010, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666

I also have a real problem with his thing about the band having day jobs. Shellac easily have a high enough profile for its members not to have to work 9-5. They choose not to tour, either out of laziness or (I suspect) because Albini makes far more as an in-demand, 'name' producer than he would on the road. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a case of the other members having to keep their day jobs, simply because Albini won't leave his. Either way, are bands like High on Fire, or Clutch any less 'indie' because they make a living touring, rather than through a regular day job? Albini's had this weird hard-on for some idealised blue-collar bullshit from the beginning. He should fuck off and become a miner and stop ruining Stooges albums.

I don't know, I think this is a perfectly reasonable and realistic attitude to have. I would imagine the pressure of having to depend on your band for a living would increase the chances of the band breaking up, and if you're friends with the people in your band it could also ruin the friendship.

PAULYBEE2656 · 10.11.2010, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Either way, no amount of drugs would ever make me want to sit through a Radiohead album again.

not even kid a???

anyhoo...everyone going all boo hoo because steve ripped on sy turning all corporate! so what..this isnt new news...this isnt even old news...its old end of story. albini is allowed to speak his mind and you can agree or disagree with him til the cows come home, end of story is that they exist and the opinions exist and anyone who takes this seriously shoould really be forced to listen to THE CORAL whilst watching other people take drugs..

albini rocks!

good article, shame about the dufus!

ann ashtray · 10.11.2010, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

But Swa(y) + Ms. Ezra Brooks, they've had some great times w/ that quote..... Room dark as shit and spinning, that quote will slow things down a bit.

Some great time's indeed.

She's been replaced again though. I miss her sometimes!

Chris Lawrence · 10.12.2010, 04:17 AM

maybe he's upset cuz they never used the guitar he gave them...

atsonicpark · 10.12.2010, 05:22 AM

haha that's ridiculous, thanks for that.

i remember the guy from nuclear rabbit had a 14 string bass or something ridiculous.

nicfit · 10.12.2010, 05:24 AM

chapman sticks huhhghhh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6EEM2Lk1Ag

Adolfo · 10.12.2010, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Lawrence

maybe he's upset cuz they never used the guitar he gave them...

ugly. cool

RdTv · 10.12.2010, 08:18 AM

I see where Albini is coming from, respect that point of view and feel its not a slap in the face of SY, all he is doing is hypathetically asserting his stance and opinions towards the past actions of another band. People do this all the time and its not a big deal, Albini just said what he thought and I'm sure SY doesn't think any less of him.

ann ashtray · 10.12.2010, 09:24 PM

Even if he meant it as a slap in the face (which he clearly didn't), and even if the Youth DID take it as offensive...why would it even matter?

atsonicpark · 10.12.2010, 09:45 PM

Hm, that's quite an interesting question. Why does anything matter? Why even care about anything, or talk about anything? Why have an opinion? Why even think? Why even exist?

ann ashtray · 10.12.2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Hm, that's quite an interesting question. Why does anything matter? Why even care about anything, or talk about anything? Why have an opinion? Why even think? Why even exist?

All of which has absolutely everything and nothing to do with my original question.

good job.

atsonicpark · 10.13.2010, 12:00 AM

Everything and nothing has everything and nothing to do with everything and nothing.

Moshe · 10.13.2010, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead-Air

Moshe, I love you, but you totally mistitled this thread.

That was the title pitchfork used. I just copied it.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous · 10.13.2010, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Why does anything matter? Why even care about anything, or talk about anything? Why have an opinion? Why even think? Why even exist?

atsonicpark · 10.13.2010, 12:49 PM

Is he making devil horns?

rappard · 10.21.2010, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Moshe

http://pitchfork.com/features/articl...f-sonic-youth/

Another reason not to read Pitchfork. I'm still amazed that none of their editors know the meaning of the word "verbiage".

atsonicpark · 10.21.2010, 04:39 AM

I think the biggest reason not to read them is that just about everyone knows that their reviews are based 100% on payola -- and yet people still take their reviews seriously! The day a band gets reviewed on pitchfork, there's about 500 posts on last.fm with people debating the score... "OH MY GOD, I CAN;T BELIEVE IT ONLY GOT AN 8.3. IT TOTALLY DESERVED AN 8.8!" ... Horrid site. I mean, I guess, in the end, it's understandable if people want to read them -- stupidity can be funny -- but to take them seriously? That's what I really gotta question... one read of their review of NYC GHOSTS AND FLOWERS made me not only question the website and the writer, but to question the English language itself.

rappard · 10.21.2010, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

I think the biggest reason not to read them is that just about everyone knows that their reviews are based 100% on payola
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Seriously? Proof?

10.11.2010, 02:58 AM	#102
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	I suppose that guy gets paid by the word. Honestly, I'm kiddin and I don't want to sound "disrespectful", coz that's a sort of "recap" written by a sy fan after all, but it's quite an unnecessary read for people who knows SY a bit. I can see it have some "usefulness" for younger pitchfork audience perhaps, but I think a good portion of those who know Albini enough to give a damn about what he says do also know SY a bit...dunno. I'm ranty. __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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10.12.2010, 05:22 AM	#107
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	haha that's ridiculous, thanks for that. i remember the guy from nuclear rabbit had a 14 string bass or something ridiculous. __________________
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10.12.2010, 05:24 AM	#108
nicfit invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: banana boat Posts: 15,570	chapman sticks huhhghhh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6EEM2Lk1Ag __________________ 11:11 11-11-11 I Ascended.
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10.12.2010, 08:18 AM	#110
RdTv invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lexington,KY USA Posts: 2,512	I see where Albini is coming from, respect that point of view and feel its not a slap in the face of SY, all he is doing is hypathetically asserting his stance and opinions towards the past actions of another band. People do this all the time and its not a big deal, Albini just said what he thought and I'm sure SY doesn't think any less of him.
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10.12.2010, 09:24 PM	#111
ann ashtray expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Macon, GA Posts: 2,299	Even if he meant it as a slap in the face (which he clearly didn't), and even if the Youth DID take it as offensive...why would it even matter? __________________ Team Thurston!
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10.12.2010, 09:45 PM	#112
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Hm, that's quite an interesting question. Why does anything matter? Why even care about anything, or talk about anything? Why have an opinion? Why even think? Why even exist? __________________
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10.13.2010, 12:00 AM	#114
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Everything and nothing has everything and nothing to do with everything and nothing. __________________
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10.13.2010, 12:49 PM	#117
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	Is he making devil horns? __________________
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10.21.2010, 04:39 AM	#119
atsonicpark invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 28,843	I think the biggest reason not to read them is that just about everyone knows that their reviews are based 100% on payola -- and yet people still take their reviews seriously! The day a band gets reviewed on pitchfork, there's about 500 posts on last.fm with people debating the score... "OH MY GOD, I CAN;T BELIEVE IT ONLY GOT AN 8.3. IT TOTALLY DESERVED AN 8.8!" ... Horrid site. I mean, I guess, in the end, it's understandable if people want to read them -- stupidity can be funny -- but to take them seriously? That's what I really gotta question... one read of their review of NYC GHOSTS AND FLOWERS made me not only question the website and the writer, but to question the English language itself. __________________
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