[Genteel Death]

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels

This is my general gripe with rappers these days, they say something in a loose slack jawed or gruff way (probably about their possessions, be that cars/money/women/drugs/clothes*), they repeat it, they repeat it again, they repeat it again, they leave a gap, they repeat half of it and then sing the end bit, they say about three words that don't rhyme and don't scan, they leave a gap, they say the first thing again...etc. Over a beat with a skittery/ticky drum pattern that sounds a bit like somebody winding up an egg timer.

This is why Drake is pop music for me. I love some of his songs and listen to them regularly because I like some pop songs. They are not hip hop songs though.

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death

This is why Drake is pop music for me. I love some of his songs and listen to them regularly because I like some pop songs. They are not hip hop songs though.

this gotta be the dumbest post i've read.

[rebeccagotcursedout]

Originally Posted by louder

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/video...9hsNJamITkeq43 - Drake doing "Too Much" on Fallon (starts around the 05:30 mark). such an emotional song with great lyrics and simply A1 technical rapping. honestly one of the best performances i've seen from a rapper.

that performance is pretty good.

[Genteel Death]

Originally Posted by louder

this gotta be the dumbest post i've read.

It's not going to be last either.

[rebeccagotcursedout]

well it does get played on the radio. so it's pop music.

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Originally Posted by rebeccagotcursedout

well it does get played on the radio. so it's pop music.

Public Enemy used to get radio play, right? i guess they were pop too.

rapping over a beat makes you hip-hop. Drake is just as hip-hop as KRS-One or whatever.

[Genteel Death]

All modern black music is hip hop or rap to louder. And psych/progressive to Severian. They all rock.

[Rob Instigator]

when did PE get radio play?

They actually rapped about how even BLACK radio did not play them!

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no offense but old white people's opinion on hip-hop just sucks (especially rock heads), i find the last few posts cringeworthy and simply painful to read. y'all are some cornballs who are stuck in the past, out of the loop and just don't get it.

hip-hop hasn't gotten worse at all. in fact it's better now thanks to technology, the production sounds smoother and far more advanced, a lot of rappers produce their own beats now which results in unique sounds, as opposed to most rappers in the 80s-90s they aren't afraid to show feelings and implement a lot more emotion in their songs, the subject matters are a lot more varied and diverse, there are just so many different styles now, there's basically something for everybody.

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by louder

rapping over a beat makes you hip-hop. Drake is just as hip-hop as KRS-One or whatever.

that means that Blondie is hip hop, madonna is hip hop, michael jackson is hip hop, and Anthony Kiedis is hip hop

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death

All modern black music is hip hop or rap to louder. And psych/progressive to Severian. They all rock.

excuse me, you're the one making ignorant comments like "Drake is not hip hop". music with RAPPING IS hip hop, period. and i do actually listen to black music all the time (most music by white artists doesn't really move me anymore).

[Rob Instigator]

Originally Posted by louder

hip-hop hasn't gotten worse at all. in fact it's better now thanks to technology, the production sounds smoother and far more advanced, a lot of rappers produce their own beats now which results in unique sounds, as opposed to most rappers in the 80s-90s they aren't afraid to show feelings and implement a lot more emotion in their songs, the subject matters are a lot more varied and diverse, there are just so many different styles now, there's basically something for everybody.

I agree, and Drake makes most of his $$ appealing to white, middle-class kids. something for everyone. 2 $hort would kick his ass.

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

that means that Blondie is hip hop, madonna is hip hop, michael jackson is hip hop, and Anthony Kiedis is hip hop

believe it or not, Ke$ha is a rapper: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kesha

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

I agree, and Drake makes most of his $$ appealing to white, middle-class kids. something for everyone. 2 $hort would kick his ass.

BLACK people love Drake. every hood loves and respects Drake nowadays.

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Drake's career was actually launched by J. Prince (who founded Rap-A-Lot records AKA Geto Boys' label), who still gives him mad love. he is respected by pretty much every legend in the game, from Ghostface to Nas to LL Cool, etc.

[Genteel Death]

Hip Hop may be better now, whatever. Beyonce or Drake is not hip hop. I like, sometimes love, some of their music, but they are not hip hop. Wakey wakey.

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death

Hip Hop may be better now, whatever. Beyonce or Drake is not hip hop. I like, sometimes love, some of their music, but they are not hip hop. Wakey wakey.

i hope you're trolling and not just a moron. anyway Drake raps better than your favorite rappers.

[Genteel Death]

Originally Posted by louder

BLACK people love Drake. every hood loves and respects Drake nowadays.

That's racist too, Malcolm X.

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death

That's racist too, Malcom X.

how does it feel to be a 40-something year old constantly trolling a forum and crying for attention.

[rebeccagotcursedout]

Pop doesn't necessarily mean 'bad'. if it appeals to lot of people and there's something for everyone then it's pop. wasn't putting anything down. Hip Hop is pop music now!

also, I liked that performance you posted of him on Fallon.