[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Severian

"Scream" was such a good track... those two, together. Yowza

It really was.. and it was when MJ was still MJ.. remember when that video was a cultural event???

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by louder

Why are y'all such sexists? Janet is a an extremely talented individual. Britney doesn't sing as well as she does (although she was definitely influenced by her), nor is she as great of an artist. None of Michael's albums are as deep and insightful as The Velvet Rope, nor as eclectic in terms of sound. You know nothing about her creative process as you weren't with her at the studio, so please.

Do you mean Rob cuz you said yall like anyone else dissed Janet yo

[louder]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

Do you mean Rob cuz you said yall like anyone else dissed Janet yo

Probably but I didn't wanna make it seem like it's personal.. lol

[Severian]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

It really was.. and it was when MJ was still MJ.. remember when that video was a cultural event???

I remember when it debuted. I was just thinkingof this last night. I haven't actually listened to the song from start to finish since the '90s, but I'm pretty sure I can recite the entire thing from memory, guitar solo and all.

What a Flying V guitar would be doing in the far future, though, is beyond me.

[pepper_green]

Flying V's are classic and aerodynamic. that's prove enough of time travel.

btw. I love "scream". I also love "leave me alone", "man in the mirror" and "remember the time". all that new jack me off swing. though it's much more shallow and plastic. Jackson 5 up until Thriller is king.

I remember I was friends with this blind kid in school who complained that MJ was white during the Dangerous era. im like " how da fuck you know?, u blind ass". lol.

[pepper_green]

BAD has some really great singles! "Leave me Alone" could compete with Tom Petty's "Don't come around here no More" for crazy bitch song of the 80's.

"leave me alone" has the greatest vocal harmonies of all time in pop. the video is still awesome too.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

BAD has some really great singles! "Leave me Alone" could compete with Tom Petty's "Don't come around here no More" for crazy bitch song of the 80's.

"leave me alone" has the greatest vocal harmonies of all time in pop. the video is still awesome too.

Hell yeah, that's a classic video. Remember that shit from Moonwalker, yo. Underrated song in general.

Also, I do not like "you are not alone." That video and song just totally are shit. Michael's choice of women makes Kanye's look downright enviable. Jesus...

Oh well, I'm not here to talk shit. Not today anyway.

[Severian]

"Wolves" is SO much better on TLOP version 3.0 (or whatever). I think the album's going to be available for download soon. I like what Ye's done to it in the interim. 30 Hours sounds a little better too, and some slight adjustment to FML make it even more ridiculously awesome.

[pepper_green]

Originally Posted by Severian

Hell yeah, that's a classic video. Remember that shit from Moonwalker, yo. Underrated song in general.

Also, I do not like "you are not alone." That video and song just totally are shit. Michael's choice of women makes Kanye's look downright enviable. Jesus...

Oh well, I'm not here to talk shit. Not today anyway.

Moonwalker! hell yeah! I loved that movie. my favorite scene is his past history part. I discovered the Jackson 5 that way. MJ could sing his ass off when young. still my favorite soul singing.

[Severian]

As I've said before, I cried when Joe Pesci beat his ass the first time I saw that.

Then he turned into a car... for some reason. Not sure why to this day. Didn't even use the car to get back at Pesci. Just turned into a car and flew off, and then he was running around in the forest with some kids.

Weird. But yeah, classic movie.

[pepper_green]

^^fuck yeah. I remember that now. ha. love you man! I have confidence that's it's still a weird wonderful movie. I cried too.

Nirvana came and I forgot all about it.

[pepper_green]

nothing can beat a young MJ singing on "Got to be There".

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

Originally Posted by Severian

Hell yeah, that's a classic video. Remember that shit from Moonwalker, yo. Underrated song in general.

Also, I do not like "you are not alone." That video and song just totally are shit. Michael's choice of women makes Kanye's look downright enviable. Jesus...

Oh well, I'm not here to talk shit. Not today anyway.

It is entirely possible that MJ is what we call asexual. Its a real thing. I personally don't believe him a pedophile so being asexual actually explain all his weird behavior.. my mom trusted MJ and explained that she believed him because all those "mothers" took $ settlements. She said she would burn down the world to convict a person who had molested her kids and even more aptly they could have fought for criminal charges AND sued him in civil court. But they didn't. They went after $...

[pepper_green]

of course he was asexual. everybody knows that. weather or not he had sexual relations with children is the key. me, I've always been up in air. don't know. but I think he might have done some showing off play time of his genitals that his crazy mind shouldn't have done. little deviant which is wrong but, not a molester.

fucking kids? no! don't think he did that but, who knows whatthrough people like his minds. either way the mans was def crazy!

this placeis gpoing delite with the edit shit. what causes that? like you earase a word and the word just kjoasdfoiuaosdufo evaporates in fuck hit goddamnn man. it disappears into nothing

dude!

[Severian]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

^^fuck yeah. I remember that now. ha. love you man! I have confidence that's it's still a weird wonderful movie. I cried too.

Nirvana came and I forgot all about it.

Yeah, yep. That's about how it went for me too. But in 1988 and 89, it was all about Moonwalker and Bad. I also had a Paula Abdoul thing going for a while.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous

It is entirely possible that MJ is what we call asexual. Its a real thing. I personally don't believe him a pedophile so being asexual actually explain all his weird behavior.. my mom trusted MJ and explained that she believed him because all those "mothers" took $ settlements. She said she would burn down the world to convict a person who had molested her kids and even more aptly they could have fought for criminal charges AND sued him in civil court. But they didn't. They went after $...

I understand that asexuality is a real thing. But he certainly tried to make it look like he was splittin' bimbos in half for a while. Then he had like five kids with someone whose name or lot in life I cannot remember, so... not sure how that fits into everything.

I think Michael was harmless, but probably suffered from overly simplistic and idyllic worldview. I think his childhood being what it was made him focus so much on preserving childhood later in his life, which really looks creepy to people who want headlines to do all the thinking for them.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

of course he was asexual. everybody knows that. weather or not he had sexual relations with children is the key. me, I've always been up in air. don't know. but I think he might have done some showing off play time of his genitals that his crazy mind shouldn't have done. little deviant which is wrong but, not a molester.

fucking kids? no! don't think he did that but, who knows whatthrough people like his minds. either the man was def crazy!

I think he probably did a few things that he shouldn't have, but I don't think he meant to do any harm, and I don't think he was actually a pedophile.

I've always seen Mike as kind of a tragic figure, sort of like Lenny in Of Mice and Men. Only instead of killing mice and accidentally breaking a bitch's neck, I think he probably just participated in one too many tickle fights.

As much respect as I have for him, I have to say I don't believe he was playing with a full deck. Hard to pinpoint when it started to seem like he was a little .... ah.... retarded.... but it started to seem like he'd sustained brain damage or something, somewhere around 1994. He just stopped making sense in interviews, and his vocabulary seemed to suffer. Perhaps he had early onset dimentia. I feel bad for the guy. What a tough life.

[Severian]

Originally Posted by pepper_green

BAD has some really great singles! "Leave me Alone" could compete with Tom Petty's "Don't come around here no More" for crazy bitch song of the 80's.

"leave me alone" has the greatest vocal harmonies of all time in pop. the video is still awesome too.

Don't forget "Bette David Eyes" ... That's a real crazy Bitch song. "Leave me Alone" was about the media as far as I know.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

The kids were not necessarily sexually produced, possibly in vitro? Obviously having the appearance of a sex life was important for his image particularly in the extra horny 80s..

I think asexual most succinctly explains all of MJ's weird and otherwise unexplainable behavior. But i digress..

I'd rather talk about MJ the artist and not MJ the weirdo.

[SuchFriendsAreDangerous]

It also gets forgotten how Nirvana knocked MJ off the charts. Which is amazing no matter how you slice that cake.