[Skuj]

This Atlas guy is a real piece of work, and a logical Trump pick.

They need to be in jail.

[The Soup Nazi]

From The Washington Post:

South Dakota nurse says many patients deny the coronavirus exists — right up until death

By Paulina Villegas
November 16, 2020 at 7:22 p.m. GMT-3

Jodi Doering, an emergency room nurse in South Dakota, was overwhelmed Saturday night. Her patients were dying of covid-19, yet were still in denial about the pandemic’s existence.

It’s like a “horror movie that never ends,” Doering wrote on Twitter.

Her anxiety and despair are shared by many health-care workers who are facing a dramatic surge in covid-19 patients. But some front-line workers, like Doering, also face the emotional toll of treating patients who, despite being severely ill, are reluctant to acknowledge that they have been infected with a virus that President Trump has said will simply disappear.

Doering said she has covid-19 patients who need 100-percent-oxygen breathing assistance and who will also swear they don’t have the illness that has ended the lives of nearly a quarter-million people in the United States since February.

“I think the hardest thing to watch is that people are still looking for something else and a magic answer and they do not want to believe covid is real,” Doering told CNN in an interview Monday.

“Their last dying words are, ‘This can’t be happening. It’s not real,’” Doering said, adding that some patients prefer to believe that they have pneumonia or other diseases rather than covid-19, despite seeing their positive test results.

Doering’s weekend tweets went viral and prompted reaction from residents, health-care workers and local officials.

“COVID is amplifying the feeling of frustration and helplessness our front-line healthcare workers are experiencing,” Brookings, S.D., City Council member Nick Wendell wrote on Twitter. “We are in the midst of the storm right now. When we see our way through to the other side, the accumulated grief of healthcare workers in our state will be among the debris.”

The United States surpassed 11 million coronavirus cases Sunday, and health experts warn of even bleaker weeks ahead, urging the public to take the pandemic seriously and abide by strict social-distancing rules. They have also urged public officials to implement more restrictions, such as statewide mask mandates, to stem the spread.

Coronavirus cases are increasing rapidly across the country, but North and South Dakota led the nation in new cases and deaths per capita last week, according to Washington Post data.

In North Dakota, where cases have rocketed in the past month, Republican Gov. Doug Burgum has also acknowledged the phenomenon of disbelief among the population. Burgum pleaded with fellow residents late last week to take precautions, as the state’s hospitals are overwhelmed with patients.

“You don’t have to believe in covid, you don’t have to believe in a certain political party or not, you don’t have to believe whether masks work or not. You can just do it because you know that one thing is very real. And that’s that 100 percent of our capacity is now being used,” Burgum said.

South Dakota Gov. Kristi L. Noem (R) has opposed mask mandates and other measures despite the rapid spread in her state.

Noem has become a star in Trump’s circle by joining in his antagonism toward mainstream scientific opinion: She is one of the few governors who refused to issue a stay-at-home order in the spring, has repeatedly questioned the validity of using masks to reduce viral spread and hosted the president for a massive, tightly packed Fourth of July celebration at Mount Rushmore.

Last week, South Dakota reported an 18.2 percent increase in daily deaths and a 26.5 percent jump in hospitalizations, according to data tracked by The Post. The South Dakota Department of Health reported 2,020 new coronavirus infections Thursday, a record for positive results in a 24-hour period.

“It is hard and sad because every hospital, every nurse, every doctor in the state is seeing the same things,” Doering told CNN. “These people are getting sick the same way, you treat them in the same way, they die in the same way, and then you do it all over again.”

[Savage Clone]

Noem Is an idiot piece of human garbage.

[The Soup Nazi]

Opinion in The New York Times by Paul Krugman:

Coronavirus Stockholm syndrome

One of the odder twists in the terrible saga of America’s failed Covid-19 response was the way the Trump administration and many U.S. conservatives fell briefly in love with Sweden. Yes, that Sweden, where universal health care is mostly provided directly by the government, where taxes take 44 percent of G.D.P. compared with just 24 percent here, where two-thirds of the work force is unionized.

Most of the time, in other words, Sweden is an example of everything conservatives hate; its very existence is a rebuttal to their claims that low taxes and harsh treatment of the poor are essential to prosperity.

But in this year of Covid, Sweden chose a different path from other European countries. Where its neighbors were imposing lockdowns to limit the spread of the coronavirus, Sweden chose to follow a strategy of “herd immunity” — letting the virus spread in the belief that once enough people had been infected and developed antibodies, the pandemic would burn out of its own accord.

I don’t know enough about Swedish politics and society to know why Swedish authorities were so willing to go their own way, so confident that they understood the pandemic better than anyone else in the world.

I do know that the U.S. right seized on the Swedish example, because the Swedes were doing what they themselves wanted to do about the coronavirus — nothing.

As an aside, this is a familiar pattern in America. By and large, we’re remarkably unwilling to learn from other nation’s policies. But every once in a while people on the U.S. right become infatuated with a small, far away country of which they know nothing whose experience, they believe, confirms their prejudices.

For example, there was a brief period in the mid-2000s when U.S. conservatives who wanted to privatize Social Security constantly sang the praises of Chile’s retirement system, which they claimed demonstrated just how wonderfully their proposed reforms would work. As it turned out, the Chileans themselves hated the system, which provided very little security, and in 2008 they changed it in ways that made it more like … U.S. Social Security. (*)

So it was with Sweden’s pandemic response. Conservatives — most notably Dr. Scott Atlas, the not-an-epidemiologist from the Hoover Institution who has become Donald Trump’s main coronavirus adviser — rushed to embrace the Swedish model. Atlas was praising Sweden as recently as late last month.

Meanwhile, however, the Swedes themselves are tacitly admitting that they made a terrible mistake.

Swedish authorities waved away the country’s experience in the spring, when it suffered far more infections and deaths than its neighbors. Just you wait, they said: we’re developing herd immunity, so we won’t have a second wave in the fall, while our neighbors will.

Then the fall came, and Sweden is in fact having a second wave — much worse than the wave in its neighbors. And on Monday the nation imposed substantial new restrictions on public gatherings, although it’s still balking at a broader lockdown.

Unfortunately, I don’t think the failure of the Swedish model will change many minds here. As some wag put it, the modern U.S. right doesn’t believe in evidence-based policy, it believes in policy-based evidence: seizing on or, if necessary, inventing facts that seem to support what it wants to do anyway. And of course Donald Trump, who will still be president for another two months, never admits to anything inconvenient — up to and including the fact that he lost the election.

Anyway, conservatives’ love affair with Sweden will be over soon. And then they’ll be able to go back to denouncing what remains a very decent country as one of Europe’s “failed welfare states.”

Quick Hits

Remember when New York was doomed to suffer worse from Covid-19 because of its population density?

These days it’s one of the safest places in the country, because it has taken the pandemic seriously, while the virus burns through the Great Plains.

Time for another lockdown.

But this time economic aid doesn’t seem likely.

* Just a comment from yours truly: Actually, the changes made then to Chile's pension system were not nearly enough, as its general injustice and all-for-the-top-1% fuckedupness were enshrined in the Constitution, which is why in 2019 the country blew the fuck up, and this year, in a referendum, 78% (!) of voters chose to start the process to create a new fundamental legal framework.

[_tunic_]

CNN wrote a similar article about South Dakota and the nearby Republican ruled states

These GOP governors long resisted mask mandates and coronavirus rules. Now their states are in crisis.

What always baffles me is this:

So on Friday LIttle announced he is signing a public health order rolling the state back to Stage 2 of its reopening plan, prohibiting gatherings of more than 10 people both indoors and outdoors, except for religious and political gatherings.

as if you can't get infected when you go to church

 

[Bytor Peltor]

Damned if you do: if the lockdown worked the first time, why are they planning for another?

Damned if you don’t: if the lockdown didn’t work the first time, why are they planning for another?


My father, a vegan and 74 woke up Friday night feeling near deaths door. Made his way to the bathroom and didn’t have the strength to make it back to bed. After two hours on the floor, my stepmom helped him back to bed where he proceeded to sleep 11 hours straight.

When he got out of bed Saturday, he was feeling much better and figured he was 65% normal. Called around and secured a Covid test for Sunday morning......he felt 85% normal.

Monday morning and ever since he has felt 100% normal.

Today (Wednesday) he and my stepmoms Covid test each have come back positive:

“CDC says survival rate is 97.7 % and that includes people in their 70s, 80s, 90s and those in hospice etc.

CDC recommends no treatment for more than 90% of cases.

With Cynthia and I surviving it, I do not see the justification in shutting down business because of virus with such unusually high survival rates.”


While my father is healthy and takes zero medications, my stepmother has some health issues but has been asymptomatic during this.


We are continuing with our plans for next week. Big family gatherings, lots of food and golf if the weather holds.

 

[Rob Instigator]

the lockdown should have been permanent. instead, dipshits with 8th grade educations demand science be ignored.

[_tunic_]

Originally Posted by _tunic_

as if you can't get infected when you go to church

 

I should have added:

... or large Thanksgiving family gatherings

 

[tesla69]

Huge protests in Germany = the police attack the citiizens!


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...s-restrictions

[h8kurdt]

Bore off, lad

[tesla69]

wake the fuck up - who decided Corporations are good and Corportae Media is our friend? They did! You all just got on your knees and opened wide!



Authored by Paul Joseph Watson via Summit News,
Top pathologist Dr. Roger Hodkinson told government officials in Alberta during a zoom conference call that the current coronavirus crisis is “the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public.”

Hodkinson’s comments were made during a discussion involving the Community and Public Services Committee and the clip was subsequently uploaded to YouTube.
Noting that he was also an expert in virology, Hodkinson pointed out that his role as CEO of a biotech company that manufactures COVID tests means, “I might know a little bit about all this.”

“There is utterly unfounded public hysteria driven by the media and politicians, it’s outrageous, this is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public,” said Hodkinson.

The doctor said that nothing could be done to stop the spread of the virus besides protecting older more vulnerable people and that the whole situation represented “politics playing medicine, and that’s a very dangerous game.”
Hodkinson remarked that “social distancing is useless because COVID is spread by aerosols which travel 30 meters or so before landing,” as he called for society to be re-opened immediately to prevent the debilitating damage being caused by lockdowns.
Hodkinson also slammed mandatory mask mandates as completely pointless.

“Masks are utterly useless. There is no evidence base for their effectiveness whatsoever,” he said.
“Paper masks and fabric masks are simply virtue signalling. They’re not even worn effectively most of the time. It’s utterly ridiculous. Seeing these unfortunate, uneducated people – I’m not saying that in a pejorative sense – seeing these people walking around like lemmings obeying without any knowledge base to put the mask on their face.”

The doctor also slammed the unreliability of PCR tests, noting that “positive test results do not, underlined in neon, mean a clinical infection,” and that all testing should stop because the false numbers are “driving public hysteria.”
Hodkinson said that the risk of death in the province of Alberta for people under the age of 65 was “one in three hundred thousand,” and that it was simply “outrageous” to shut down society for what the doctor said “was just another bad flu.”

“I’m absolutely outraged that this has reached this level, it should all stop tomorrow,” concluded Dr. Hodkinson.

Hodkinson’s credentials are beyond question, with the MedMalDoctors website affirming his credibility.

“He received his general medical degrees from Cambridge University in the UK (M.A., M.B., B. Chir.) where he was a scholar at Corpus Christi College. Following a residency at the University of British Columbia he became a Royal College certified general pathologist (FRCPC) and also a Fellow of the College of American Pathologists (FCAP).”
“He is in good Standing with the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta, and has been recognized by the Court of Queen’s Bench in Alberta as an expert in pathology.”

[tesla69]

The plan is to bankrupt the 99% and take everything we own using the lockdowns. Then they make us rent it back from them. Fight back or live as slaves. If we lose, they won't even allow most of us to live at all. Especially you useful idiots.

[choc e-Claire]

Paul Joseph Watson is a man who has tantrums about a music reviewer, he's the worst source imaginable.

[h8kurdt]

Originally Posted by tesla69

The plan is to bankrupt the 99% and take everything we own using the lockdowns. Then they make us rent it back from them. Fight back or live as slaves. If we lose, they won't even allow most of us to live at all. Especially you useful idiots.

Question is what YOU doing? Apart from moaning on an obscure forum. Why not go out on a shooting spree. That'll teach em, you absolute waste of air.

[!@#$%!]

whoa whoa don’t encourage the psychotic

paranoids take metaphors literally and they will not get the joke

[_tunic_]

Originally Posted by tesla69

wake the fuck up

wake the fuck up yourself

Originally Posted by tesla69

Hodkinson remarked that “social distancing is useless because COVID is spread by aerosols which travel 30 meters or so before landing,”

Read this twenty times please


Distance is measured in meters


By distancing yourself from other people you will reduce the risk from catching other people's aerosols.


Same with mouth masks, you reduce the risk of both spreading your aerosols to other people, as well as catching other people's aerosols.

[_tunic_]

Check the map of the USA on NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-us-cases.html

On Nov. 18, the color scale on the hot spots map was expanded to reflect the new record rates of infection. The map was also changed so that areas with very low population density are now shaded.

And while you're there, above the map is a row of buttons. Click on "Per Capita", and check several counties in several states, especially those that are red coloured.
There are counties where 1 of 10 people or even higher are infected!!!!!

If those people will gather with their family for Thanksgiving, all the ones that are not infected yet, will then be infected by the people that are infected but don't give a shit because they don't have any or minimal symptoms themselves yet.

 

This is what real scientists say about the infection rate:
R0: How scientists quantify the intensity of an outbreak like coronavirus and predict the pandemic’s spread
The above image is taken from there



Here's another image

 

(source)
Now replace "bbq" with "Thanksgiving family gathering", and give your family members the present of not giving them the Covid virus

[_tunic_]

Wow, the Trump administration has woken up, finally, and now say what they should have said weeks if not months ago:

As the U.S. nears the 200,000 daily case mark, Americans are urged to avoid Thanksgiving travel.

The new guidance, which contrasted sharply with recent White House efforts to downplay the threat, states clearly that “the safest way to celebrate Thanksgiving is to celebrate at home with the people you live with,” and that gathering with friends and even family members who do not live with you increases the chances of becoming infected with the virus or the flu, or transmitting the virus.

[h8kurdt]

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor

[
We are continuing with our plans for next week. Big family gatherings, lots of food and golf if the weather holds.

 

And this is why the shit is going to get A LOT worse. You can about from the rooftops, Tunic, but stubborn people are gonna stay stubborn.

[!@#$%!]

you can’t fix stupid ¯\_(ツ)_/¯