[Cantankerous]

i never said i hate nirvana. i hate that album, so please, take a step back and kiss my ass.

[m^a(t)h]

Originally Posted by Norma J

Why did you avoid answering the question?

Cantankerous: "That doesn't make me hate it any less."

your question is rhetorical

[krastian]

Originally Posted by Daddylikes

I'm in N.C.

I would never buy Icehouse, and I think PBR is still cheaper (especially if you get the tall boys)

Prob. but Icehouse has more booze in it. Natty Boh is the way to go for cheap beer in Baltimore.

Nirvana....well, they changed my life that's for sure and Dave made me want to pick up the drums and destroy when I was in 4th grade. I'm sure there are tons of folks making music today that look back and say, "Yeah man, Nirvana blew me away and made me want to play." I still love them even though I prob. only bust them out 2-3 times a year at most. Still love them when it comes down to it.

[Norma J]

Originally Posted by m^a(t)h

when they say changed music I think they are referring to mainstream musical artists, not a couple of kids in some basement....

Originally Posted by Daddylikes

Yeah, exactly.

I still think that Rage Against the Machine's self titled is more influential (to the mainstream...etc) than Nirvana's Nevermind.

I see a pattern.

[acousticrock87]

I disagree. When an artist convinces millions of people to pick up a guitar and learn how to play, they severely change music on every level - including demand in pop culture, which directly affects who gets signed and what record labels are looking for. I could care less about Nirvana - they're ridiculously average, but they made that the norm, so music was changed.

[Daddylikes]

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

i never said i hate nirvana. i hate that album, so please, take a step back and kiss my ass.

Can I please? With tongue?

[finding nobody]

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/colum...r_nirvana.html

[Daddylikes]

So, that makes NWA influential because they influenced a 1,000,000 people to pick up a microphone and wax lyrical, right?

[m^a(t)h]

Originally Posted by Norma J

I see a pattern.

so you are rejecting the idea that they are referring to mainstream musical artists? did you read there reasons why?

[Norma J]

Originally Posted by Cantankerous

i never said i hate nirvana. i hate that album, so please, take a step back and kiss my ass.

We're talking about whether Nirvana's Nevermind (which you said you hate) should be in that list or not. Your distaste for that record makes you believe they didn't didnt change music. Get it now?

And I don't want to think of your ass, thanks all the same. I'm not one of the dillusional, sexless, kids in the 'Cantankerous fanclub'.

[acousticrock87]

Originally Posted by Daddylikes

So, that makes NWA influential because they influenced a 1,000,000 people to pick up a microphone and wax lyrical, right?

I would consider the pioneers of rap to be some of the most influential people in the world right now. Which is why I think Run DMC should be way higher up there.

[Cantankerous]

Originally Posted by Norma J

We're talking about whether Nirvana's Nevermind (which you said you hate) should be in that list or not. Your distaste for that record makes you believe they didn't didnt change music. Get it now?

quit making shit up. i dare you to find anywhere where i even implied that. THE ALBUM CHANGED MUSIC. THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME HATE IT ANY LESS. GET IT?

[Daddylikes]

Also, I'd like a list of which modern bands Nirvana influenced to learn how to play a musical instrument?

I think musical influences should be noted by their influence in HOW someone plays a musical instrument, not their motivation to actually learn an instrument. If Kiss influenced me to learn guitar, but I found I liked Trey Anastasio's style of guitar more influential to my style, I'd say that Trey Anastasio was more influencial to me as a guitarist than Kiss.

[Cantankerous]

oh, PS

 

eat me.

[krastian]

Atari prob. just posted this list to get everyone fired up like these lists always do. He needs to come up here and break me off a piece

[Cantankerous]

of that hash bar. PLEASE.

[m^a(t)h]

Originally Posted by Daddylikes

Also, I'd like a list of which modern bands Nirvana influenced to learn how to play a musical instrument?

.

because that would be interesting and noteworthy......


go out and meet a girl

[Norma J]

Originally Posted by m^a(t)h

so you are rejecting the idea that they are referring to mainstream musical artists? did you read there reasons why?

Now again, when did I say that?

And again, people shoulnd't let personal tastes cloud their judgement. But let's work on your theory (not to say that it is not mine either) for here: The Vines - mainstream - Nirvana cover band. Bush: Mainstream - Nirvana cover band.

Nirvana have influenced both the mainstream and the 'underground' if thats what you want to call it.

[finding nobody]

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[acousticrock87]

Originally Posted by Daddylikes

Also, I'd like a list of which modern bands Nirvana influenced to learn how to play a musical instrument?

I think musical influences should be noted by their influence in HOW someone plays a musical instrument, not their motivation to actually learn an instrument. If Kiss influenced me to learn guitar, but I found I liked Trey Anastasio's style of guitar more influential to my style, I'd say that Trey Anastasio was more influencial to me as a guitarist than Kiss.

I understand what you're saying. But I look at it more in terms of how Nirvana affected the industry. It's like the Spice Girls thing - they changed the target audience. Even if none of the bands that started because of Nirvana went anywhere, they definitely affected what labels looked for. Like, I would consider Tarantino to be incredibly influential. He's hardly original, since all of his style is directly and blatantly from Kurosawa and the like, but Tarantino took the next step by actually taking it to American pop culture and influencing average people with things that weren't even his.